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Special K cereal
nikki4ever
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I've been losing weight eating all the healthy stuff. (veggies, chickens, fish, fruits, etc). However, you think its okay to have special k or fiber one for dinner at 7 pm, with 1/2 skim milk?
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I've been losing weight eating all the healthy stuff. (veggies, chickens, fish, fruits, etc). However, you think its okay to have special k or fiber one for dinner at 7 pm, with 1/2 skim milk?0
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If it stays within your calorie range - why not?
It wouldn't sustain me at all! Remember that the time you are sleeping is traditionally the longest time you go without food which means that you go into starvation mode....0 -
That's the wonderful thing about MFP... you can eat what you want! If you want to have breakfast at dinnertime, go right ahead!
Now, is this just for tonight, or something you plan on doing for a long time. I'd be concerned that I wasn't getting proper nutrition if I did it every night.0 -
Sure, if you've got the numbers for it, go for it!
I LOVE having cereal for supper. My favorites are the Kashi Cinnamin squares and the store brand Oats and More. YUM!
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I eat a bowl of raisin bran or cornflakes every single day before I go to bed, we're talking about 10:00 it takes the edge off the hunger in the morning, and it keeps your metabolism up and running0
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I've been losing weight eating all the healthy stuff. (veggies, chickens, fish, fruits, etc). However, you think its okay to have special k or fiber one for dinner at 7 pm, with 1/2 skim milk?
I have cereal every few days a week for dinner..it works well0 -
If it stays within your calorie range - why not?
It wouldn't sustain me at all! Remember that the time you are sleeping is traditionally the longest time you go without food which means that you go into starvation mode....
uhh...going to sleep does not mean you go into starvation mode..if you eat at 6 pm...you are stii taking in those nutrients 12 hours later...0 -
According to my nutritionist, my doctor and my trainer going 8 hours without food puts your body into starvation mode. The fact that you are asleep does not change that0
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sure you can, but if I were you I'd allot a few calories for a small snack later in the night. I don't find that ceral fills me up at all. :flowerforyou:0
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According to my nutritionist, my doctor and my trainer going 8 hours without food puts your body into starvation mode. The fact that you are asleep does not change that
but you're SUPPOSED to get 8 hours of sleep at night. That would mean everyone goes into starvation mode every night. That doesn't make sense. Maybe they explained it wrong or poorly?0 -
According to my nutritionist, my doctor and my trainer going 8 hours without food puts your body into starvation mode. The fact that you are asleep does not change that
no offense but that is just totally wrong...you have been misinformed0 -
I love it! sometimes when I get home from class I have a bowl before bed...or I eat it for breakfast... I love it0
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According to my nutritionist, my doctor and my trainer going 8 hours without food puts your body into starvation mode. The fact that you are asleep does not change that
no offense but that is just totally wrong...you have been misinformed
My trainer said the same thing. Both of them actually have. They told me to eat a protein shake before bed so thata my body is not hungry and trying to hold onto the fat... whether it is right or not, I usually have a snack before bed or I wake up soo hungry.0 -
Sigh. It's not like we can do anything about it - because we need to sleep. If we didn't eat for 8 hours during waking hours, our body goes into starvation mode. It seemed to make sense to me, but like any other information - if it's important to you, you should do your own research. I question everything myself.0
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According to my nutritionist, my doctor and my trainer going 8 hours without food puts your body into starvation mode. The fact that you are asleep does not change that
no offense but that is just totally wrong...you have been misinformed
My trainer said the same thing. Both of them actually have. They told me to eat a protein shake before bed so thata my body is not hungry and trying to hold onto the fat... whether it is right or not, I usually have a snack before bed or I wake up soo hungry.
being hungry and being in starvation mode are not the same...actually, when in starvation mode it is not unusual to not feel hunger at all....the food we eat takes along time before the body even knows it is food...sleeping slows down the process even more.0 -
Actually, I think I'm more offended at the way you approached it rather than telling me I was wrong. I know it's difficult to type softly, but sometimes your attitude speaks so loudly it is difficult to hear what you are trying to say.
And thank you astarte09. I appreciate your support. Just because we do not like what we hear, does not mean it is not true. 8 hours during the day without food and our bodies prepare for starvation. I've read it a thousand times.0 -
Actually, I think I'm more offended at the way you approached it rather than telling me I was wrong. I know it's difficult to type softly, but sometimes your attitude speaks so loudly it is difficult to hear what you are trying to say.
ok...sorry...the end0 -
According to my nutritionist, my doctor and my trainer going 8 hours without food puts your body into starvation mode. The fact that you are asleep does not change that
but you're SUPPOSED to get 8 hours of sleep at night. That would mean everyone goes into starvation mode every night. That doesn't make sense. Maybe they explained it wrong or poorly?
I have to agree with Kerri.I hope my body isn't starving while I am sleeping.. I sometimes have cereal for dinner (last night to be exact). I seem to do fine with a light meal once in a while...0 -
According to my nutritionist, my doctor and my trainer going 8 hours without food puts your body into starvation mode. The fact that you are asleep does not change that
no offense but that is just totally wrong...you have been misinformed
My trainer said the same thing. Both of them actually have. They told me to eat a protein shake before bed so thata my body is not hungry and trying to hold onto the fat... whether it is right or not, I usually have a snack before bed or I wake up soo hungry.
being hungry and being in starvation mode are not the same...actually, when in starvation mode it is not unusual to not feel hunger at all....the food we eat takes along time before the body even knows it is food...sleeping slows down the process even more.
Honestly? I did not say ME being hungry and starvation were the same...did I? no..0 -
According to my nutritionist, my doctor and my trainer going 8 hours without food puts your body into starvation mode. The fact that you are asleep does not change that
I agree with Dave198................That is ludacris for them to say 8 hours puts your body in starvation mode...........
It takes longer than a few hours to have your body go into starvation mode..........
From the science I have researched on starvation mode, it takes the body a while of having very low caloric intake to go into starvation mode................0 -
This is part of what i have been referring to...plus, I'm confident that what I have read and been told is accurate. Whatever works for you is excellent. However, being hungry and "starvation mode" in which your body is surviving on it's muscle and storing fat is different.
I'm done. Thanks for listening.
Lose Weight: Eat Breakfast
Studies show making breakfast a daily habit can help you lose weight - and keep it off.
By Jeanie Lerche Davis
WebMD FeatureReviewed by Louise Chang, MDWhat's for breakfast - coffee? Most mornings, we barely glance at the kitchen. Fixing breakfast takes up precious time that's in short supply. But there's ample evidence that the simple act of eating breakfast -- every day -- is a big part of losing weight, lots of weight.
"People skip breakfast thinking they're cutting calories, but by mid-morning and lunch, that person is starved," says Milton Stokes, RD, MPH, chief dietitian for St. Barnabas Hospital in New York City. "Breakfast skippers replace calories during the day with mindless nibbling, bingeing at lunch and dinner. They set themselves up for failure."
The Benefits of Breakfast
Eating breakfast is a daily habit for the "successful losers" who belong to The National Weight Control Registry. These people have maintained a 30-pound (or more) weight loss for at least a year, and some as long as six years.
"Most -- 78% -- reported eating breakfast every day, and almost 90% reported eating breakfast at least five days a week - which suggests that starting the day with breakfast is an important strategy to lose weight and keep it off," says James O. Hill, PhD, the Registry's co-founder and director of the Center for Human Nutrition at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center.
Earlier this year, two studies in the Journal of the American Dietetic Association backed up this finding. Though they were funded by cereal companies, dietitians say they underscore the message - breakfast is important to weight loss.
A group of researchers analyzed data from a government-funded study that followed more than 2,000 young girls from ages 9 to 19. They found that regular cereal eaters had fewer weight problems than infrequent cereal eaters. Those who ate cereal occasionally had a 13% higher risk of being overweight compared to the regular cereal eaters.
Another research group analyzed government data on 4,200 adults. They found that regular breakfast eaters were more likely to exercise regularly. And women who ate breakfast regularly tended to eat fewer calories overall during the day. Those men and women who ate breakfast cereal had lower overall fat intake -- compared to those who ate other breakfast foods.
It makes sense: Eating early in the day keeps us from "starvation eating" later on. But it also jump-starts your metabolism, says Elisabetta Politi, RD, MPH, nutrition manager for the Duke Diet & Fitness Center at Duke University Medical School. "When you don't eat breakfast, you're actually fasting for 15 to 20 hours, so you're not producing the enzymes needed to metabolize fat to lose weight."
Among the people she counsels, breakfast eaters are usually those who have lost a significant amount of weight. They also exercise. "They say that before having breakfast regularly, they would eat most of their calories after 5 p.m.," Politi tells WebMD. "Now, they try to distribute calories throughout the day. It makes sense that the body wants to be fueled."
The Smart Breakfast
If breakfast is the most important meal of the day, it's best to make wise food choices. That's where fruits, vegetables, and whole grains come into the picture. Because these are high-fiber foods, they fill you up - yet they bring less fat to the table, says Barbara J. Rolls, PhD, the Guthrie Chair in Nutrition at Pennsylvania State University in Pittsburgh and author of The Volumetrics Weight Control Plan.
These high-fiber foods allow you to eat more food yet get fewer calories. It's a concept called "energy density" - the number of calories in a specified amount of food, Rolls explains.
"Some foods - especially fats - are very energy dense, which means they have a lot of calories packed into a small size," Rolls tells WebMD. "However, foods that contain lots of water have very low energy density. Water itself has an energy density of zero. High-fiber foods like fruits, vegetables, and grains have low energy density."
Translation: If you eat foods with high energy density, such as bagels, you rack up calories quickly. If you eat high-fiber, low-energy-density foods - such as oatmeal, strawberries, walnuts, and low-fat yogurt -- you can eat more and get fewer calories.
A breakfast made up of 1 cup of oatmeal, 1/2lf cup of low-fat milk, 1 cup of sliced strawberries, and 1 tablespoon of walnuts has only 307 calories total. Two multi-grain waffles, with 1 cup of blueberries, 3 tablespoons of light syrup, and 1 cup of plain low-fat yogurt have about 450 calories total. That's almost equal to the standard bagel-and-cream-cheese breakfast - yet it's much more food, and much lower in fat.
Breakfast Fast and Easy
A high-fiber cereal - 3 to 5 grams of fiber per serving -- is optimal, Stokes advises. "But don't overdo it if you're not used to it, because too much fiber can cause constipation, diarrhea, or an upset stomach."
As for sugary cereals, "it's better than nothing," he says. "Some breakfast is better than no breakfast. The last thing anyone should do is skip breakfast. Otherwise, you'll be eating something even worse later on - candy bars and potato chips -- because you're starving."
An even better option: "Some moms take sweetened cereal and mix it with unsweetened cereal. Or they take unsweetened cereal and mix it with something a little sugary -- yogurt or low-fat pudding."
Smart Breakfast Made Simple
"Breakfast doesn't need to be elaborate," Stokes tells WebMD. "My philosophy is, the simpler the better." He keeps frozen blueberries or peaches on hand. "They're even more nutritious than fresh anyway because they are picked at peak time, and frozen immediately." Canned peaches (in natural juices, no sugar added) are also a good option.
Peanut butter, eggs, low-fat yogurt/milk are other good choices, he says.
Smart Breakfast Made Simple continued...
His quick breakfast suggestions:
Banana with peanut butter
Banana sliced into yogurt
Oatmeal with fruit -- like apples, blueberries, or peaches
Small tortilla with a few tablespoons of peanut butter and chopped strawberries. Roll it up, slice it. It works for kids and adults.
Breakfast smoothies -- berries, ice, and milk or yogurt. "They're portable -- throw some in a cup, and you're out the door," he notes.
As for the much-beloved bagel - sadly, it's the calorie equivalent of five slices of bread, says Stokes. "Just eat half. Better yet, don't bring them into your home. You'll just end up eating the whole thing so it won't go bad."
Best option: "Go for the smaller bagels, the little ones that are like hockey pucks. Spread some almond or cashew butter on it instead of cream cheese. People think cream cheese is a dairy food, but it's not -- it's fat. If you must have cream cheese, buy low-fat. Honestly there is no difference in taste. Add a little bit of jam, some sliced strawberries."
If on-the-run fast food breakfast sandwiches are your downfall, here's how to indulge in a healthy way: whole-grain English muffins, a cooked egg, low-fat cheese melted on top - ham or Canadian bacon optional. "It's portable. You can drive with that," Stokes says. "Sometimes for dinner, I'll have two of those if I don't feel like cooking."
If you love granola, read labels carefully, he advises. "Buy low-fat, and treat it as a condiment, not the main dish. If you treat it like the main, you'll eat too much fat and sugar."0 -
All the other stuff aside, a light dinner of cereal and milk is probably a better choice than a heavy meal. There are so many theories out there about when we should finish eating for the day, the best advice is to not eat about 2 hours before bedtime. This allows for digestion to start taking place and for a better night's sleep (regardless of what you last ate).
Just read a study that showed that people who at 1/3 to 1/2 of all their daily calories in the morning lost more weight than those that saved the big meal for the end of the day...and...they had better maintenance results as well.
As far as the "conversation" going on about starvation mode and just being hungry it is obvious that both sides feel they are right and although I agree with one more than the other it is up to all of us as individuals to research and educate ourselves about how our bodies work as well as using some trial and error....because there are different body and dieting types for people and what works for you may not work for person A or B.
Now, go eat your cereal! :drinker:0 -
Actually, I think I'm more offended at the way you approached it rather than telling me I was wrong. I know it's difficult to type softly, but sometimes your attitude speaks so loudly it is difficult to hear what you are trying to say.
And thank you astarte09. I appreciate your support. Just because we do not like what we hear, does not mean it is not true. 8 hours during the day without food and our bodies prepare for starvation. I've read it a thousand times.
I would like to see where you have read that...................I have not read anything that backs up that not eating for 8 hours (whether wake or sleep) puts your body in starvation mode............
If that is the case, then people that do fasting on a regular basis for religious or spiritual reasons are putting themselves into starvation mode.
That is just not so................
I have done fasts to cleanse and detox and I have not been in starvation mode any of those times. It actually does the body good to go without every once in a while.
Starvation mode as I have read it and how it has been explained to me is going a long term time frame with a very low caloric intake...............
Like less than a 1000 calories per day for an extended period of time.
Your body does not recognize starvation after a few short hours.0 -
This is part of what i have been referring to...plus, I'm confident that what I have read and been told is accurate. Whatever works for you is excellent. However, being hungry and "starvation mode" in which your body is surviving on it's muscle and storing fat is different.
I'm done. Thanks for listening.
Lose Weight: Eat Breakfast
Studies show making breakfast a daily habit can help you lose weight - and keep it off.
By Jeanie Lerche Davis
WebMD FeatureReviewed by Louise Chang, MDWhat's for breakfast - coffee? Most mornings, we barely glance at the kitchen. Fixing breakfast takes up precious time that's in short supply. But there's ample evidence that the simple act of eating breakfast -- every day -- is a big part of losing weight, lots of weight.
"People skip breakfast thinking they're cutting calories, but by mid-morning and lunch, that person is starved," says Milton Stokes, RD, MPH, chief dietitian for St. Barnabas Hospital in New York City. "Breakfast skippers replace calories during the day with mindless nibbling, bingeing at lunch and dinner. They set themselves up for failure."
The Benefits of Breakfast
Eating breakfast is a daily habit for the "successful losers" who belong to The National Weight Control Registry. These people have maintained a 30-pound (or more) weight loss for at least a year, and some as long as six years.
"Most -- 78% -- reported eating breakfast every day, and almost 90% reported eating breakfast at least five days a week - which suggests that starting the day with breakfast is an important strategy to lose weight and keep it off," says James O. Hill, PhD, the Registry's co-founder and director of the Center for Human Nutrition at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center.
Earlier this year, two studies in the Journal of the American Dietetic Association backed up this finding. Though they were funded by cereal companies, dietitians say they underscore the message - breakfast is important to weight loss.
A group of researchers analyzed data from a government-funded study that followed more than 2,000 young girls from ages 9 to 19. They found that regular cereal eaters had fewer weight problems than infrequent cereal eaters. Those who ate cereal occasionally had a 13% higher risk of being overweight compared to the regular cereal eaters.
Another research group analyzed government data on 4,200 adults. They found that regular breakfast eaters were more likely to exercise regularly. And women who ate breakfast regularly tended to eat fewer calories overall during the day. Those men and women who ate breakfast cereal had lower overall fat intake -- compared to those who ate other breakfast foods.
It makes sense: Eating early in the day keeps us from "starvation eating" later on. But it also jump-starts your metabolism, says Elisabetta Politi, RD, MPH, nutrition manager for the Duke Diet & Fitness Center at Duke University Medical School. "When you don't eat breakfast, you're actually fasting for 15 to 20 hours, so you're not producing the enzymes needed to metabolize fat to lose weight."
Among the people she counsels, breakfast eaters are usually those who have lost a significant amount of weight. They also exercise. "They say that before having breakfast regularly, they would eat most of their calories after 5 p.m.," Politi tells WebMD. "Now, they try to distribute calories throughout the day. It makes sense that the body wants to be fueled."
The Smart Breakfast
If breakfast is the most important meal of the day, it's best to make wise food choices. That's where fruits, vegetables, and whole grains come into the picture. Because these are high-fiber foods, they fill you up - yet they bring less fat to the table, says Barbara J. Rolls, PhD, the Guthrie Chair in Nutrition at Pennsylvania State University in Pittsburgh and author of The Volumetrics Weight Control Plan.
These high-fiber foods allow you to eat more food yet get fewer calories. It's a concept called "energy density" - the number of calories in a specified amount of food, Rolls explains.
"Some foods - especially fats - are very energy dense, which means they have a lot of calories packed into a small size," Rolls tells WebMD. "However, foods that contain lots of water have very low energy density. Water itself has an energy density of zero. High-fiber foods like fruits, vegetables, and grains have low energy density."
Translation: If you eat foods with high energy density, such as bagels, you rack up calories quickly. If you eat high-fiber, low-energy-density foods - such as oatmeal, strawberries, walnuts, and low-fat yogurt -- you can eat more and get fewer calories.
A breakfast made up of 1 cup of oatmeal, 1/2lf cup of low-fat milk, 1 cup of sliced strawberries, and 1 tablespoon of walnuts has only 307 calories total. Two multi-grain waffles, with 1 cup of blueberries, 3 tablespoons of light syrup, and 1 cup of plain low-fat yogurt have about 450 calories total. That's almost equal to the standard bagel-and-cream-cheese breakfast - yet it's much more food, and much lower in fat.
Breakfast Fast and Easy
A high-fiber cereal - 3 to 5 grams of fiber per serving -- is optimal, Stokes advises. "But don't overdo it if you're not used to it, because too much fiber can cause constipation, diarrhea, or an upset stomach."
As for sugary cereals, "it's better than nothing," he says. "Some breakfast is better than no breakfast. The last thing anyone should do is skip breakfast. Otherwise, you'll be eating something even worse later on - candy bars and potato chips -- because you're starving."
An even better option: "Some moms take sweetened cereal and mix it with unsweetened cereal. Or they take unsweetened cereal and mix it with something a little sugary -- yogurt or low-fat pudding."
Smart Breakfast Made Simple
"Breakfast doesn't need to be elaborate," Stokes tells WebMD. "My philosophy is, the simpler the better." He keeps frozen blueberries or peaches on hand. "They're even more nutritious than fresh anyway because they are picked at peak time, and frozen immediately." Canned peaches (in natural juices, no sugar added) are also a good option.
Peanut butter, eggs, low-fat yogurt/milk are other good choices, he says.
Smart Breakfast Made Simple continued...
His quick breakfast suggestions:
Banana with peanut butter
Banana sliced into yogurt
Oatmeal with fruit -- like apples, blueberries, or peaches
Small tortilla with a few tablespoons of peanut butter and chopped strawberries. Roll it up, slice it. It works for kids and adults.
Breakfast smoothies -- berries, ice, and milk or yogurt. "They're portable -- throw some in a cup, and you're out the door," he notes.
As for the much-beloved bagel - sadly, it's the calorie equivalent of five slices of bread, says Stokes. "Just eat half. Better yet, don't bring them into your home. You'll just end up eating the whole thing so it won't go bad."
Best option: "Go for the smaller bagels, the little ones that are like hockey pucks. Spread some almond or cashew butter on it instead of cream cheese. People think cream cheese is a dairy food, but it's not -- it's fat. If you must have cream cheese, buy low-fat. Honestly there is no difference in taste. Add a little bit of jam, some sliced strawberries."
If on-the-run fast food breakfast sandwiches are your downfall, here's how to indulge in a healthy way: whole-grain English muffins, a cooked egg, low-fat cheese melted on top - ham or Canadian bacon optional. "It's portable. You can drive with that," Stokes says. "Sometimes for dinner, I'll have two of those if I don't feel like cooking."
If you love granola, read labels carefully, he advises. "Buy low-fat, and treat it as a condiment, not the main dish. If you treat it like the main, you'll eat too much fat and sugar."
Well, Web-MD is in the advertisers pocket, so they will try and sell anything...........
I used to trust Web-MD on their info..............I do not trust anything they say any more.0 -
Bottom line-
If you have the calories left, by all means, go ahead a have a bowl of cereal. It won't hurt anything. I do it quit often, especially when I don't feel like cooking or eating anything big.
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THANKS GUYS!:)0
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Yes you can, I do sometimes if I've eaten a late lunch and don't want a big dinner.0
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I think it takes a few days of consistently low calories to fall into starvation mode (as in, your body starts eating itself).
Anyway, carbs before bed (like, after 7 PM) are a definite NO for me. I don't need fast-acting energy to go to sleep...I'd rather eat my carbs for breakfast and let them fuel me throughout the day. Just a thought...good luck to you!
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I'm sorry I have to jump in, but your comments do seem a little offensive, or at least a little strong. People have their own opinions, and theories. I have heard several theories that state Starvation Mode (where your body holds onto fat) doesn't EVEN exist! Not to say I believe that but please keep an open mind, and do what works for you. by the by, on the original topic I love eating cereal for supper, especially my All Bran Flakes! :flowerforyou:0
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I love cereal any time of day.
Cocoa Pebbles for dessert are great!! :laugh: :laugh: :blushing:0
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