Breakfast jumps starts your metabolism? Explain that please.

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  • stormieweather
    stormieweather Posts: 2,549 Member
    It only matters if it personally helps YOU to lose weight.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/meal-frequency-and-energy-balance-research-review.html


    So here’s the take home:
    ■If eating more frequently makes it easier to control/reduce calories, it will help you to lose weight/fat.
    ■If eating more frequently makes it harder to control/reduce calories, or makes you eat more, you will gain weight.
    ■If eating less frequently makes it harder for you to control/reduce calories (because you get hungry and binge), it will hurt your efforts to lose weight/fat.
    ■If eating less frequently makes it easier for you to control/reduce calories (for any number of reasons), then that will help your efforts to lose weight/fat
  • debussyschild
    debussyschild Posts: 804 Member
    Eh. I don't really care what a study says - I eat as soon as I wake up because:

    a) I'm starving

    b) I've found eating right away and eating often helps keep my blood sugar level. A level blood sugar keeps me from binging.

    I will say I never ate breakfast when I was overweight and had a serious binge eating problem. So, I truly believe for ME - it helps control that... which makes breakfast important to me.

    The studies do not comment on preference, which is what you are talking about. It says simply that eating the same number of calories per day regardless of whether they are divided into separate meals or in one large meal or somewhere inbetween is all that matters. Simply put, if you eat the 1300 calories per day in one big meal, you'll lose just as much as someone who divides it up into multiple smaller meals. Of course, waiting to eat all your calories at dinner doesn't work for everyone, so that is really up to you.

    I think, however, that there's a caveat to your logic. Sure, eating the same amount of calories regardless of timing or portion size/meal will still result in weight loss. However, I highly doubt anyone would actually prefer to eat their entire days worth of calories in one meal. It can be done, but generally speaking, at the risk of getting hungry, which usually results in overeating. I eat breakfast (and about 5 other small meals a day) so that I don't get hungry. Period. Getting hungry is pretty much the devil when it comes to trying to lose weight.
  • ElizabethRoad
    ElizabethRoad Posts: 5,138 Member
    I'm not positive, so please don't butcher my comments if I'm not perfectly clear....but from what I've always understood and read: I think eating breakfast jumpstarts you BMR. Your BMR is your Basal Metabolic Rate ( I may be incorrect on what it stands for, but I think this is correct). This is the amount of calories your body burns when you aren't doing anything. So if you skip breakfast, you may still have energy to do things (ie- running), but when you aren't exercising, you may not be burning as many calories as you could be. For example, sitting at a desk...someone who ate breakfast will most likely be burning more calories than the one who skipped breakfast because the food gave them calories (energy) and their body is using that energy through the BMR since you aren't doing something else that will burn them off. I think it also explains why some people skip breakfast and aren't hungry until lunch. Yet others who eat breakfast are "starving" by mid-morning. Their body has been been burning more off than the one who skipped breakfast and so they feel hungrier sooner. Of course other considerations are resting heart rate and exercise is a factor there, but I think you can get the idea...
    Your BMR is the calories burned to keep you alive. It takes calories to power your heart, lungs, and so on. Believe me when I tell you that they are still working whether you eat breakfast or not. There is definitely no need to jumpstart your BMR.
  • Elizabeth_C34
    Elizabeth_C34 Posts: 6,376 Member
    Eh. I don't really care what a study says - I eat as soon as I wake up because:

    a) I'm starving

    b) I've found eating right away and eating often helps keep my blood sugar level. A level blood sugar keeps me from binging.

    I will say I never ate breakfast when I was overweight and had a serious binge eating problem. So, I truly believe for ME - it helps control that... which makes breakfast important to me.

    The studies do not comment on preference, which is what you are talking about. It says simply that eating the same number of calories per day regardless of whether they are divided into separate meals or in one large meal or somewhere inbetween is all that matters. Simply put, if you eat the 1300 calories per day in one big meal, you'll lose just as much as someone who divides it up into multiple smaller meals. Of course, waiting to eat all your calories at dinner doesn't work for everyone, so that is really up to you.

    I think, however, that there's a caveat to your logic. Sure, eating the same amount of calories regardless of timing or portion size/meal will still result in weight loss. However, I highly doubt anyone would actually prefer to eat their entire days worth of calories in one meal. It can be done, but generally speaking, at the risk of getting hungry, which usually results in overeating. I eat breakfast (and about 5 other small meals a day) so that I don't get hungry. Period. Getting hungry is pretty much the devil when it comes to trying to lose weight.

    There are some people on MFP and other places that only eat once or twice per day and do not get "hungry" cravings. It's not me, but I know some of my contacts are like this.
  • debussyschild
    debussyschild Posts: 804 Member
    I'm not positive, so please don't butcher my comments if I'm not perfectly clear....but from what I've always understood and read: I think eating breakfast jumpstarts you BMR. Your BMR is your Basal Metabolic Rate ( I may be incorrect on what it stands for, but I think this is correct). This is the amount of calories your body burns when you aren't doing anything. So if you skip breakfast, you may still have energy to do things (ie- running), but when you aren't exercising, you may not be burning as many calories as you could be. For example, sitting at a desk...someone who ate breakfast will most likely be burning more calories than the one who skipped breakfast because the food gave them calories (energy) and their body is using that energy through the BMR since you aren't doing something else that will burn them off. I think it also explains why some people skip breakfast and aren't hungry until lunch. Yet others who eat breakfast are "starving" by mid-morning. Their body has been been burning more off than the one who skipped breakfast and so they feel hungrier sooner. Of course other considerations are resting heart rate and exercise is a factor there, but I think you can get the idea...
    Your BMR is the calories burned to keep you alive. It takes calories to power your heart, lungs, and so on. Believe me when I tell you that they are still working whether you eat breakfast or not. There is definitely no need to jumpstart your BMR.

    If you need to jumpstart your BMR, that might require the use of a defibrillator.
  • drvvork
    drvvork Posts: 1,162
    I find eating breakfast only spurs me to want to eat all day long and stay hungry. If I wait until lunch to start my eating regiment I'm fine. It is just an individual thing IMO.
  • MinnieInMaine
    MinnieInMaine Posts: 6,400 Member
    It's too much of a general statement. For me personally, it's less about the timing than the quality of the food. If I get up and eat a bowl of cereal with milk and banana slices, I'll be starving in a couple hours so it seems like eating breakfast is a waste of calories - yet when my mother eats that same breakfast, she's good for hours. BUT if I eat 2 or 3 eggs with some toast, I'm good for hours. Everyone's different...do what works for you.

    As far as weight loss goes, the only benefit I've noticed is that if I eat a good filling breakfast, I have more energy for my mid-morning workouts and I'm less likely to be hungry later. When I used to skip breakfast (when I was fat), I'd be hungry and snack all afternoon, usually on junk. It's definitely not the only reason I was fat though...
  • debussyschild
    debussyschild Posts: 804 Member
    Eh. I don't really care what a study says - I eat as soon as I wake up because:

    a) I'm starving

    b) I've found eating right away and eating often helps keep my blood sugar level. A level blood sugar keeps me from binging.

    I will say I never ate breakfast when I was overweight and had a serious binge eating problem. So, I truly believe for ME - it helps control that... which makes breakfast important to me.

    The studies do not comment on preference, which is what you are talking about. It says simply that eating the same number of calories per day regardless of whether they are divided into separate meals or in one large meal or somewhere inbetween is all that matters. Simply put, if you eat the 1300 calories per day in one big meal, you'll lose just as much as someone who divides it up into multiple smaller meals. Of course, waiting to eat all your calories at dinner doesn't work for everyone, so that is really up to you.

    I think, however, that there's a caveat to your logic. Sure, eating the same amount of calories regardless of timing or portion size/meal will still result in weight loss. However, I highly doubt anyone would actually prefer to eat their entire days worth of calories in one meal. It can be done, but generally speaking, at the risk of getting hungry, which usually results in overeating. I eat breakfast (and about 5 other small meals a day) so that I don't get hungry. Period. Getting hungry is pretty much the devil when it comes to trying to lose weight.

    There are some people on MFP and other places that only eat once or twice per day and do not get "hungry" cravings. It's not me, but I know some of my contacts are like this.

    I used to be like that, until I realized I wasn't eating enough... Now I eat enough calories, and I noticed when I've gone too long without eating (usually more than 3 hours) i.e. I get hungry, really hungry. Loss of or poor appetite is sometimes a result of not eating enough.
  • Many studies and nutrionists show that eating breakfast is important to metabolism and weight loss. Even if it's something very small, like a bar, string cheese and an apple, etc. will be beneficial to kickstart your day until your first meal.

    Again confirmed as I read in The eat-Clean Diet Recharged by Tosca Reno - National Weight control registry found that those who shed 30 pounds of weight or more did so with the help of eating breakfast.

    I never ate breakfast but I know better, so in my current diet testing theory of eating breakfast and eating smaller meals every 3 hrs.
  • TheAnie
    TheAnie Posts: 180 Member
    Do i have to eat as soon as i wake up from a nap to jump start my metabolism too?
    I think they say the breakfast thing cause you have gone 7 plus hours with no fuel so when you wake up in the morning, you need to eat something. I don't know anyone who naps for 7 plus hours :happy:
    My husband can and does. :laugh:


    Everyone who keeps pointing out that the thin people they know eat breakfast are making me giggle a bit. My husband is one of the thinnest people I know(naturally) and he rarely eats breakfast. If he gets up at 7am he won't decide he's hungry until almost 10:30. But he also snacks late into the night. So I think it's all different for different people. I've never believed that having breakfast would jumpstart my metabolism, but it can keep you from over eating later.
  • MrsNoir
    MrsNoir Posts: 236 Member
    In my case I would get very very very GRUMPY if I don't have breakfast. And in general I may go grumpy if I don't have a dosage of food every two hours or so. And I hate those blood tests where you have to go "fasting", that's the hardest thing for me to do.. wake up and just live on water.. horrible... I can't live without my coffee and honey piece of toast :).

    But for a more scientific explanation, I guess it's a way of telling the body that it's going to have fuel for the rest of the day, so it doesn't need to hold on tight to the food from the previous day, so it allows you to eat more and lose more :D, I think it works the same way as the starvation thing that shows when you log too few calories per day. :D
  • livinginwoods
    livinginwoods Posts: 562 Member
    My healthy skinny friends eat breakfast, my fat ones don't. I now eat breakfast. Even my Dr. told me that her obese patients majorly don't eat breakfast. I hardly ever did. If I did it was a pop tart or some junk food. Now after 6 weeks of doing this I wake up starving and I eat less during the day if I eat it. So it works for me.
  • myak623
    myak623 Posts: 615 Member
    I'm going to say that it's all relative. My boyfriend does a 16 hour fasting period. His food intake cutoff is 9pm and he breaks his fast at 1pm. He adjusted quite easily to it and it works for him. He loses weight when he's cutting, maintains when he needs to and is still able to bulk up when he needs to. It also fits into his schedule.

    Me, on the other hand, could not do this. I have to eat very soon after I wake up or I get shaky. I also eat smaller meals more often. If I don't I get headaches and my blood sugar drops. This works for me and the smaller more frequent meals fit in to my schedule.

    Every one is different and you should do what works for you.

    This post makes a very good point. Everyone can have a different definition of "break fast". Is it a cultural thing that we all associate breakfast as the morning meal? If something is working for you, then stick with it. Screw studies! That study wasn't done on you so who cares what it says. I enjoy eating in the mornings. So, that is when I will have my first meal. My wife isn't the same. She isn't hungry when she first wakes up. She may break her fast a few hours later.

    Depends on the person.
  • Elizabeth_C34
    Elizabeth_C34 Posts: 6,376 Member
    Eh. I don't really care what a study says - I eat as soon as I wake up because:

    a) I'm starving

    b) I've found eating right away and eating often helps keep my blood sugar level. A level blood sugar keeps me from binging.

    I will say I never ate breakfast when I was overweight and had a serious binge eating problem. So, I truly believe for ME - it helps control that... which makes breakfast important to me.

    The studies do not comment on preference, which is what you are talking about. It says simply that eating the same number of calories per day regardless of whether they are divided into separate meals or in one large meal or somewhere inbetween is all that matters. Simply put, if you eat the 1300 calories per day in one big meal, you'll lose just as much as someone who divides it up into multiple smaller meals. Of course, waiting to eat all your calories at dinner doesn't work for everyone, so that is really up to you.

    I think, however, that there's a caveat to your logic. Sure, eating the same amount of calories regardless of timing or portion size/meal will still result in weight loss. However, I highly doubt anyone would actually prefer to eat their entire days worth of calories in one meal. It can be done, but generally speaking, at the risk of getting hungry, which usually results in overeating. I eat breakfast (and about 5 other small meals a day) so that I don't get hungry. Period. Getting hungry is pretty much the devil when it comes to trying to lose weight.

    There are some people on MFP and other places that only eat once or twice per day and do not get "hungry" cravings. It's not me, but I know some of my contacts are like this.

    I used to be like that, until I realized I wasn't eating enough... Now I eat enough calories, and I noticed when I've gone too long without eating (usually more than 3 hours) i.e. I get hungry, really hungry. Loss of or poor appetite is sometimes a result of not eating enough.

    The problem here is that you're generalizing your specific situation to everyone else. Not everyone is like you in their preferences and eating strategies, and that is perfectly fine. It doesn't necessarily mean they are going hungry or somehow deficient in their caloric needs because they eat once or twice per day instead of 3-5 times per day.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    If you skip breakfast and wait until later in the day, your body goes into starvation mode. This means that when you do eat after skipping breakfast, your body registers that it hasn't had food for a while, and being fearful that it won't get food again for a while, it goes into "starvation mode' and stores, instead of utilizes, the calories you consume. If you are exercising frequently, then this shouldn't be a big deal as your body will burn calories through exercise. It is helpful to eat breakfast though.

    Um, not even close to being true. It takes 3 days of complete fasting before your body even thinks about slowing down your metabolism. Waiting an extra 3 hours and eating breakfast at lunch time instead of first thing in the morning will not suddenly put you in starvation mode. Do you think humans 100,000 years ago ate 6 meals a day? They were lucky to eat one meal every 3 or 4 days.
  • The fact is that not eating small meals throught the day does slow metabolism down. Think like this if considering metabolism is like a camp fire if no one puts wood on the fire the fire will burn very slow and go out. Metabolism is the same way if you eat 1300 cals all at once it will be like throwing gasoline on the fire but later you will need to eat again. If you split that 1300 into 3-5 meals throught the day you will feel fuller longer and may not eat anything other then those 1300. Breakfast will help you not over eat through the day and will help blood sugar levels from dropping to much as your body has went around 8 hours with out food. My advice is to eat something around 300 cals try it for a week just to see if it makes a difference!
  • Bankman1989
    Bankman1989 Posts: 1,116 Member
    http://www.mrhealthy.com/articles/diet-nutrition/breakfast-important.aspx

    here's a great article. Its about how your blood sugar is low..fuel to rejuvenate etc. I eat breakfast EVERY morning.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Eh. I don't really care what a study says - I eat as soon as I wake up because:

    a) I'm starving

    b) I've found eating right away and eating often helps keep my blood sugar level. A level blood sugar keeps me from binging.

    I will say I never ate breakfast when I was overweight and had a serious binge eating problem. So, I truly believe for ME - it helps control that... which makes breakfast important to me.

    The studies do not comment on preference, which is what you are talking about. It says simply that eating the same number of calories per day regardless of whether they are divided into separate meals or in one large meal or somewhere inbetween is all that matters. Simply put, if you eat the 1300 calories per day in one big meal, you'll lose just as much as someone who divides it up into multiple smaller meals. Of course, waiting to eat all your calories at dinner doesn't work for everyone, so that is really up to you.

    I think, however, that there's a caveat to your logic. Sure, eating the same amount of calories regardless of timing or portion size/meal will still result in weight loss. However, I highly doubt anyone would actually prefer to eat their entire days worth of calories in one meal. It can be done, but generally speaking, at the risk of getting hungry, which usually results in overeating. I eat breakfast (and about 5 other small meals a day) so that I don't get hungry. Period. Getting hungry is pretty much the devil when it comes to trying to lose weight.

    It's called intermittent fasting, and billions of people around the world eat that way on a daily basis.
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    The act of eating increases overall metabolic rate ( as opposed to BMR) as it requires energy for your body to process the incoming food (TEF: thermic effect of feeding) hence the idea that breakfast "kickstarts" your metabolism. The actual time of day or that it comes after a period of prolonged rest has no real bearing on it

    The idea that small frequent meals keep your metabolism "revved" up is based on this process. However studies have shown that where calories are equal there is pretty much no meaningful difference in rates of lipolysis (extracting fat from fat cells) and oxidation (fat storage) between frequent smaller meals and larger less frequent meals (which require more energy to process which balances out the affect)

    In short, do what suits your preferences. It's a great thing that we can have flexibility in our approaches.
  • debussyschild
    debussyschild Posts: 804 Member
    Eh. I don't really care what a study says - I eat as soon as I wake up because:

    a) I'm starving

    b) I've found eating right away and eating often helps keep my blood sugar level. A level blood sugar keeps me from binging.

    I will say I never ate breakfast when I was overweight and had a serious binge eating problem. So, I truly believe for ME - it helps control that... which makes breakfast important to me.

    The studies do not comment on preference, which is what you are talking about. It says simply that eating the same number of calories per day regardless of whether they are divided into separate meals or in one large meal or somewhere inbetween is all that matters. Simply put, if you eat the 1300 calories per day in one big meal, you'll lose just as much as someone who divides it up into multiple smaller meals. Of course, waiting to eat all your calories at dinner doesn't work for everyone, so that is really up to you.

    I think, however, that there's a caveat to your logic. Sure, eating the same amount of calories regardless of timing or portion size/meal will still result in weight loss. However, I highly doubt anyone would actually prefer to eat their entire days worth of calories in one meal. It can be done, but generally speaking, at the risk of getting hungry, which usually results in overeating. I eat breakfast (and about 5 other small meals a day) so that I don't get hungry. Period. Getting hungry is pretty much the devil when it comes to trying to lose weight.

    It's called intermittent fasting, and billions of people around the world eat that way on a daily basis.

    Deliberate fasting also slows down your metabolism. Just sayin'... Not the best tool for weight loss. Perfectly fine if you're maintaining, though. Please tell me I'm wrong...
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    The fact is that not eating small meals throught the day does slow metabolism down. Think like this if considering metabolism is like a camp fire if no one puts wood on the fire the fire will burn very slow and go out. Metabolism is the same way if you eat 1300 cals all at once it will be like throwing gasoline on the fire but later you will need to eat again. If you split that 1300 into 3-5 meals throught the day you will feel fuller longer and may not eat anything other then those 1300. Breakfast will help you not over eat through the day and will help blood sugar levels from dropping to much as your body has went around 8 hours with out food. My advice is to eat something around 300 cals try it for a week just to see if it makes a difference!

    When you eat has no bearing on metabolism. Metabolism is nothing like a camp fire. It runs 24/7, regardless of how often you eat. The only thing that really boosts metabolism is extra physical activity, moving more boosts your metabolism. Eating more often doesn't. Your metabolism doesn't change speeds, you have your basal metabolic rate, which is how many calories it takes to run your vital organs and support your total mass while in a coma (and that includes digestion) and then you have your Activity Level, which are the extra calories above your BMR that your normal daily activities burn throughout the day. Your BMR is constant, and eating doesn't change it. The only way to boost your metabolism is to move more than you normally do during the day.
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member


    Deliberate fasting also slows down your metabolism. Just sayin'... Not the best tool for weight loss. Perfectly fine if you're maintaining, though. Please tell me I'm wrong...


    You are wrong, unless you're referring to fasting for several days.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Eh. I don't really care what a study says - I eat as soon as I wake up because:

    a) I'm starving

    b) I've found eating right away and eating often helps keep my blood sugar level. A level blood sugar keeps me from binging.

    I will say I never ate breakfast when I was overweight and had a serious binge eating problem. So, I truly believe for ME - it helps control that... which makes breakfast important to me.

    The studies do not comment on preference, which is what you are talking about. It says simply that eating the same number of calories per day regardless of whether they are divided into separate meals or in one large meal or somewhere inbetween is all that matters. Simply put, if you eat the 1300 calories per day in one big meal, you'll lose just as much as someone who divides it up into multiple smaller meals. Of course, waiting to eat all your calories at dinner doesn't work for everyone, so that is really up to you.

    I think, however, that there's a caveat to your logic. Sure, eating the same amount of calories regardless of timing or portion size/meal will still result in weight loss. However, I highly doubt anyone would actually prefer to eat their entire days worth of calories in one meal. It can be done, but generally speaking, at the risk of getting hungry, which usually results in overeating. I eat breakfast (and about 5 other small meals a day) so that I don't get hungry. Period. Getting hungry is pretty much the devil when it comes to trying to lose weight.

    It's called intermittent fasting, and billions of people around the world eat that way on a daily basis.

    Deliberate fasting also slows down your metabolism. Just sayin'... Not the best tool for weight loss. Perfectly fine if you're maintaining, though. Please tell me I'm wrong...

    You're wrong. It takes 72 hours of complete fasting before your metabolism starts to slow. Intermittent fasting calls for a fast of no more than 24 hours, and actually boosts fat burning during that fasting period. Also, since your digestive system shuts down during the fasting period, the energy it was using diverts to other body systems, giving you a perceived energy boost. After several days of that, your body then perceives a famine state, and slows down metabolism to conserve energy.
  • jeffazi
    jeffazi Posts: 198
    I don't eat breakfast to jumpstart my metabolism (not sure that it even does that). I eat breakfast because I feel sick if I don't. If I don't eat by 8:00 I get extremely nauseous. Always have.
  • hottottie11
    hottottie11 Posts: 907 Member
    All this bro-science is making my head hurt
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Many studies and nutrionists show that eating breakfast is important to metabolism and weight loss. Even if it's something very small, like a bar, string cheese and an apple, etc. will be beneficial to kickstart your day until your first meal.

    Again confirmed as I read in The eat-Clean Diet Recharged by Tosca Reno - National Weight control registry found that those who shed 30 pounds of weight or more did so with the help of eating breakfast.

    I never ate breakfast but I know better, so in my current diet testing theory of eating breakfast and eating smaller meals every 3 hrs.

    I happened to read some of Tosca's blog posts and she is quite the bro scientist.

    And it is not confirmed, correlation =/= causation
  • hlcook
    hlcook Posts: 92 Member
    I had to run on 0 food when I did my military training. We used to hoard oranges so we'd have just a nibble before 0430 runs...

    I agree with whoever said that we eat because we have fasted for 8+ hours. I believe I gained wait because I didn't eat enough and kept my body in starvation mode, causing it to store everything it can. It makes sense (to me) that after 8 hours my body is wondering "will she feed me? should I start storing some reserves?"

    Heather
    www.redwritinghood.ca
  • LuckyAng
    LuckyAng Posts: 1,173 Member
    I don't know about how accurate that statement is but when I was fat I NEVER ate breakfast. I think people that skip breakfast tend to eat more calories during the rest of the day then people who eat a good breakfast. I wake up every morning starving now so i have to eat as soon as I get up! :)
    also not everyone is as blessed with an awesome metabolism as you :tongue:

    Same here. I used to never eat breakfast, but I would snack super late. Now I too wake up starving, and never eat past 8 pm.
  • CyberEd312
    CyberEd312 Posts: 3,536 Member
    I think this is more of a what works for you and for myself being a type 2 diabetic that split trains daily, I eat within 30 minutes of waking in the morning before I head to the Y..... My blood sugar would crash (it is already in the low 70's when I wake up) if I even thought of trying to workout on an empty stomach. So again its a personal preference as far as I am concerned....
  • marasw
    marasw Posts: 75 Member
    When I was not counting calories I did not eat breakfast because in general I had stayed up late every night eating and snacking until the moment my head hit the pillow, so I was not really hungry when I woke up. I also knew I could count on a HUGE satisfying 1000+ calorie lunch whenever I got around to it so there was no urgency to eat in the morning. Now I don't eat much, if anything, after dinner so by breakfast time I am hungry.
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