average fashion model VS plus-size *pics*

Tribbey143

(Pictures removed by moderator - 12. No Profane, Vulgar, Sexually Explicit or Illegal Images http://www.myfitnesspal.com/welcome/guidelines )


- Twenty years ago the average fashion model weighed 8% less than the average woman. Today, she weighs 23% less.

- Ten years ago plus-size models averaged between size 12 and 18. Today the need for size diversity within the plus-size modeling industry continues to be questioned. The majority of plus-size models on agency boards are between a size 6 and 14, while the customers continue to express their dissatisfaction.

- Most runway models meet the Body Mass Index physical criteria for Anorexia.

- 50% of women wear a size 14 or larger, but most standard clothing outlets cater to sizes 14 or smaller.

RachVR6

I'm honestly kind of torn on this topic. While I don't want to see the sickly thin models, I also don't want plus sized models making me feel 'okay' about being overweight and unhealthy. Yes I should be confident and value my self-worth at any size, but I should also strive to take care of my body and nourish it properly.

*shrugs*

(Edit for spelling)

To add: I think that women of ALL sizes should be in modeling, because it should be more about encouraging confidence and love of oneself, than a pair of skinny jeans...

FearAnLoathing

I dont see why we should promote TOO thin or TOO heavy

Tribbey143

I'm honestly kind of torn on this topic. While I don't want to see the sickly thin models, I also don't want plus sized models making me feel 'okay' about being overweight and unhealthy. Yes I should be confident and value my self-worth at any size, but I should also strive to take care of my body and nourish it properly.

*shrugs*

(Edit for spelling)

To add: I think that women of ALL sizes should be in modeling, because it should be more about encouraging confidence and love of oneself, than a pair of skinny jeans...


i just saw a size 6 is plus sized...I guess my point is both models 'sizes' with time shrink and shrink.

RachVR6

I'm honestly kind of torn on this topic. While I don't want to see the sickly thin models, I also don't want plus sized models making me feel 'okay' about being overweight and unhealthy. Yes I should be confident and value my self-worth at any size, but I should also strive to take care of my body and nourish it properly.

*shrugs*

(Edit for spelling)

To add: I think that women of ALL sizes should be in modeling, because it should be more about encouraging confidence and love of oneself, than a pair of skinny jeans...

i just saw a size 6 is plus sized...I guess my point is both models 'sizes' with time shrink and shrink.

Hopefully that can change one day. :ohwell:

TriciaZ944

In my opinion... I work with teenagers and what I would prefer to see is healthy. Girls look at today's models and think they have to be so thin. Let's face it we are all built differently and yes some people are a size 2 and still healthy and fit and others are a size 8 and still healthy and fit etc. My problem are the models that look like skeletons. I wish the fashion industry would put "real"people in their clothing so it's more realistic to a healthy lifestyle.

eve7166

I agree that too thin is just as bad as too heavy.... healthy weight is different for everyone and that is what we should be showing ppl...however i doubt that a size 18 is healthy for anyone..but i could be wrong...eitherway i just think that it should be about being healthy and not a stick or too heavy

eve7166

btw totally agree with post on top of mines lol..didnt see it when i was posting..but she said it better then me lol

TriciaZ944

Thanks

chicky89

bump to read later!

Goldenwoof

- Twenty years ago the average fashion model weighed 8% less than the average woman. Today, she weighs 23% less.

Is this because the models are getting thinner or because the "average woman" is getting bigger? Probably a little of both, but since our country has been getting fatter as a whole, I would assume it's probably the latter more than the former.

EQHanks

I think that plus size is beautiful, thanks for posting

pixieakabigd

I think 'healthy' means something different for everyone in terms of their appearance! I was clapped on the back for my weight loss a few years back but I had only lost it due to stress, other women lose it due to eating disorders. The truth is, I have been at my healthiest in terms of emotional and mental health when I have been 'curvy'. I think plus sized models look beautiful and if these magazines allow people to see themselves as normal and beautiful even when they don't look like a model, then go for it! Looks can be oh so deceiving.

Neliel

I'm honestly kind of torn on this topic. While I don't want to see the sickly thin models, I also don't want plus sized models making me feel 'okay' about being overweight and unhealthy. Yes I should be confident and value my self-worth at any size, but I should also strive to take care of my body and nourish it properly.

*shrugs*

(Edit for spelling)

To add: I think that women of ALL sizes should be in modeling, because it should be more about encouraging confidence and love of oneself, than a pair of skinny jeans...

I have to disagree. Just because they have a couple of extra rolls doesn't mean they're unhealthy. It should be about what size we feel most COMFORTABLE and HAPPY being. It shouldn't be dictated by the media or whatever *kitten* invented the BMI. Comfortable, happy, healthy. That's what matters.

Juliebean_1027

- Twenty years ago the average fashion model weighed 8% less than the average woman. Today, she weighs 23% less.

- Ten years ago plus-size models averaged between size 12 and 18. Today the need for size diversity within the plus-size modeling industry continues to be questioned. The majority of plus-size models on agency boards are between a size 6 and 14, while the customers continue to express their dissatisfaction.

- Most runway models meet the Body Mass Index physical criteria for Anorexia.

- 50% of women wear a size 14 or larger, but most standard clothing outlets cater to sizes 14 or smaller.

I used to be the store manager at a plus size clothing store and our 'plus size' mannequins were actually a size 6. We used to have to pin the clothes back and then customers would wonder why things never looked as good on them as they did on the mannequins. That was as big as the mannequins would come (at the time) but I think they're up to a size 10 now.

pixieakabigd

Hear hear!

hojo94

bump for later.

galegetsthin

If you look at the super models from the 80's and 90's you have some really beautiful women who look healthy. Now, it looks like made up skeletons with a few whisps of chiffon. It isnt that the sizes have shrunk..... they have, but the women who would have been a 6 then would be a 4 now. The new models are 00 - 2. It is scary.

scapez

If there's truth that size 6 is ever considered to be plus size, than that is very sad, indeed.

thatgirl125

I would rather see a plus size model like that than a small model like the one above. The plus size model is realistic and having a super tiny model does promote unhealthy lifestyles.

But that is just me. My step sister has nearly completely destroyed herself by trying to be as small as models.


Look at old paintings they always painted naked women. how many of those women do you see their ribs? none. They were real women even in those paintings, they had curves and more to love. They actually resemble a lot of our plus sized models. They were/are beautiful.

Lifting_chick

bump

mary_kate23

I'm honestly kind of torn on this topic. While I don't want to see the sickly thin models, I also don't want plus sized models making me feel 'okay' about being overweight and unhealthy. Yes I should be confident and value my self-worth at any size, but I should also strive to take care of my body and nourish it properly.

*shrugs*

(Edit for spelling)

To add: I think that women of ALL sizes should be in modeling, because it should be more about encouraging confidence and love of oneself, than a pair of skinny jeans...

^^what you said.

CoryIda

- Twenty years ago the average fashion model weighed 8% less than the average woman. Today, she weighs 23% less.

Is this because the models are getting thinner or because the "average woman" is getting bigger? Probably a little of both, but since our country has been getting fatter as a whole, I would assume it's probably the latter more than the former.

Even with the average woman getting heavier, they haven't gotten 15% heavier in the last 20 years... more like 5% heavier, which would still have the average fashion model now weighing about 18% less than the average woman 20 years ago.

That being said, Size 00 fashion models are not healthy, but most women are not healthy at a Size 18 either. I didn't have obesity related health problems when I was significantly overweight, but I was placing undue stress on my joints and was at risk of developing diabetes and high blood pressure and cholesterol.
A healthy weight and size varies greatly - but it would probably be right around the middle of what standard fashion models are vs. what plus sized fashion models are - probably between a 6-12 or maybe 14.

littlevoices

I want to see size 12 models. I want to know that when I reach my goal weight, I can look just as sexy as Kasia does in these photos. I'll never be rail thin, and I never want to be. Long live gorgeous curves!

chyloet

Isn't there a happy/healthy medium? Neither extreme is healthy.

onefitdiva

I think they both look unhealthy. You have both ends of the spectrum here. One is underweight and the other is overweight. To use them as models period promotes an unhealthy image.

DeeJayTJ

i think it depends on what kinda models your talking about.

look at the victoria secret models.. wow.. they look amazing.

but plus size... that just looks bad.

i live in Houston. EVERYONE is fat. and by fat i mean morbidly obese, including small children.

trudy45

I am sorry I hate that "plus size" model, I would hardly say she is a big woman, I would say she just a normal size and a healthy woman! why cant a model just be a model?

I want to see normal size women, with curves, not stick insects and not women that are so overweight that it is unhealthy! we need to get a happy medium

DannyMussels

Why do fat guys never glamorize fat male models?

mrsdizzyd84

It's not as simple as it sounds. Firstly, most models are 5'9" or taller. Us tall girls carry our weight in a myriad of ways. Tall girls can be a size 4 and still be in their healthy weight range. Similarly, tall girls can be a size 12 and be within their healthy weight range. That is a big margin, but it is true for us tall girls. Thus, a "plus-sized" model is not necessarily an unhealthy or overweight model. She does not necessarily have a gut. She is not necessarily flabby. Having more "plus-sized" models does not necessarily equate promoting unhealthy and unfit lifestyles.

reactor25

"The majority of plus-size models on agency boards are between a size 6 and 14, while the customers continue to express their dissatisfaction."

I think it's bad when a size as small as a 6 is considered a plus size---only in the modeling business.

"- Most runway models meet the Body Mass Index physical criteria for Anorexia."

This is scary and I think it sets up young women to have unrealistic body image standards.

"- 50% of women wear a size 14 or larger, but most standard clothing outlets cater to sizes 14 or smaller."

Sooo not fair!!!! People of all sizes and weights deserve access to clothes and fashion--just another example of how society devalues people based on appearance, by not providing them with the equal goods and services.
[/quote]