SOPA/PIPA

Nopedotjpeg
Nopedotjpeg Posts: 1,805 Member
edited November 1 in Chit-Chat
Contact your senators and representatives about this please if you haven't already. If you don't already know about it, then just look it up. Tons of stories out there.
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  • IvoryParchment
    IvoryParchment Posts: 651 Member
    I contacted mine yesterday. I noticed that despite all the publicity, not one had any information about the bills on their websites. I get the sense they are working for the lobbyists and hoping their constituents won't notice.
  • Nopedotjpeg
    Nopedotjpeg Posts: 1,805 Member
    I contacted mine yesterday. I noticed that despite all the publicity, not one had any information about the bills on their websites. I get the sense they are working for the lobbyists and hoping their constituents won't notice.

    I was surprised to see even all the fairly liberal senators are supporting this, which saddens me. I'm contacting them all today, Democrat and Republican alike, letting them know that a vote for these bills are a vote against them in the election, by me.
  • Nopedotjpeg
    Nopedotjpeg Posts: 1,805 Member
    bump
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  • Silverkittycat
    Silverkittycat Posts: 1,997 Member
    done. :smile:
  • amuhlou
    amuhlou Posts: 693 Member
    Just to urge everyone to help out... a site like MFP might have to shut down (or potentially become a paid service) if the legislation passes. MFP would be on the hook for everything WE as users post that could be construed as intellectual property theft. It would be impossible for MFP to be continuously policing the forums and making sure that this doesn't happen.

    For folks in the U.S.
    Contact your representative: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

    For folks outside the U.S.
    Petition the state department: americancensorship.org/modal/state-dept-petition/index.html

    I wrote my Congressman this morning, and you should too!
  • The major reason this bill has any support is because big companies who's movie and music sales are declining and dumping millions into these senators pockets. All they see is dollar signs and they seem to think this will force people to buy movies instead of downloading. They don't seem to understand that in the long run this will really screw them.
  • _binary_jester_
    _binary_jester_ Posts: 2,132 Member
    The major reason this bill has any support is because big companies who's movie and music sales are declining and dumping millions into these senators pockets. All they see is dollar signs and they seem to think this will force people to buy movies instead of downloading. They don't seem to understand that in the long run this will really screw them.
    Politicians can get away with it. How often do we REALLY hold politicians accountable? Rarely. Everyone gets all up in arms, but tend to forget when we go to vote.
  • Nopedotjpeg
    Nopedotjpeg Posts: 1,805 Member
    The major reason this bill has any support is because big companies who's movie and music sales are declining and dumping millions into these senators pockets. All they see is dollar signs and they seem to think this will force people to buy movies instead of downloading. They don't seem to understand that in the long run this will really screw them.

    Old media has no idea how new media works.
  • onefitdiva
    onefitdiva Posts: 331 Member
    Just to urge everyone to help out... a site like MFP might have to shut down (or potentially become a paid service) if the legislation passes. MFP would be on the hook for everything WE as users post that could be construed as intellectual property theft. It would be impossible for MFP to be continuously policing the forums and making sure that this doesn't happen.

    For folks in the U.S.
    Contact your representative: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

    For folks outside the U.S.
    Petition the state department: americancensorship.org/modal/state-dept-petition/index.html

    I wrote my Congressman this morning, and you should too!

    Thanks for the links!
  • amuhlou
    amuhlou Posts: 693 Member
    Part of the support was due to the influence (read: $$) of lobbying groups. A big one is the Motion Picture Association of America. There were also just appeals to common morals that theft is wrong. Saying 'Piracy is bad. This bill stops piracy' was enough to get support in some cases. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like they actually read the bills. Or perhaps the familiarity with web technology is so limited that they couldn't foresee the consequences.

    The funny thing is, both sides pretty much agree that piracy is bad.
  • Nopedotjpeg
    Nopedotjpeg Posts: 1,805 Member
    bump
  • maab_connor
    maab_connor Posts: 3,927 Member
    let's keep this one up on the top today, peeps.
  • _binary_jester_
    _binary_jester_ Posts: 2,132 Member
    let's keep this one up on the top today, peeps.
    I wish a mod would combine ALL the SOPA threads. Good info in all of them.
  • Nopedotjpeg
    Nopedotjpeg Posts: 1,805 Member
    http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/

    A list of the supporters/opposers of SOPA. May not be up to date with some of today's retractions of co-sponsors. One my own state senators, Marco Rubio, retracted his co-sponsorship. I may not agree with him on much of anything, but at least he's listening.

    Also, please watch out for H.R.1981, the Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011 in the future in the House of Representatives! This bill could easily have much of the language from SOPA snuck into it, and with a title like that, it's easy for people to be okay with it passing.
  • _binary_jester_
    _binary_jester_ Posts: 2,132 Member
    In addition, if congress thing this will make a small dent in piracy, they are totally wrong. Certain piracy sites are looking to buy their own satellite.
  • Nopedotjpeg
    Nopedotjpeg Posts: 1,805 Member
    In addition, if congress thing this will make a small dent in piracy, they are totally wrong. Certain piracy sites are looking to buy their own satellite.

    Congress doesn't think, they have lobbyists for that.
  • sectornine
    sectornine Posts: 24 Member
    Keep this going. If you don't know your reps info, go to Wikipedia. You can enter your zip code and they will have all the contact for your local/federal reps. I said it in another thread. These are the same people who are doing a bang up job with the post office. Do we really want them running the internet?
  • rhce40
    rhce40 Posts: 201 Member
    bump
    sites like google and youtube could become basically useless
  • capaxinfiniti
    capaxinfiniti Posts: 367 Member
    bump

    I've been sending my Reps emails for and letters for the past couple months. And all I get is some "Thank you for sending this e-mail, it is being reviewed by blah blah blah"

    If this ever got passed we would definitely know for sure who the government really cares about pleasing.
  • Nopedotjpeg
    Nopedotjpeg Posts: 1,805 Member
    bump.
  • Speedtrap
    Speedtrap Posts: 216
    I have been watching the debate on both sides of this and all I can say is I am proud to be a Canadian. Yikes....
  • momof3and3
    momof3and3 Posts: 656 Member
    sites like google and youtube could become basically useless

    MFP, Facebook, or any site that has a spot for public comments is at risk!
  • dlaplume2
    dlaplume2 Posts: 1,658 Member
    I contacted mine today.
  • teephil
    teephil Posts: 135 Member
    bump

    I've been sending my Reps emails for and letters for the past couple months. And all I get is some "Thank you for sending this e-mail, it is being reviewed by blah blah blah"

    If this ever got passed we would definitely know for sure who the government really cares about pleasing.

    Writing is absolutely worthless. If you really want them to get the message, calling is the most effective way of doing that. It's very easy to throw out a letter or delete an email. Calling, however, forces them to pay attention. Yes, you'll likely be speaking to an intern, but they definitely pass the message on if their whole day is spent taking calls on SOPA.
  • teephil
    teephil Posts: 135 Member
    sites like google and youtube could become basically useless

    MFP, Facebook, or any site that has a spot for public comments is at risk!

    The funny pic thread alone would kill MFP...
  • DakotaKeogh
    DakotaKeogh Posts: 693 Member
    http://boldprogressives.org/ and sign the petition. Makes the calls, send the emails, sign the petition. Come at them from all directions.
  • LauraMacNCheese
    LauraMacNCheese Posts: 7,173 Member
    sites like google and youtube could become basically useless

    MFP, Facebook, or any site that has a spot for public comments is at risk!

    The funny pic thread alone would kill MFP...

    Quite...I signed the petition this morning to try & keep this idiocy from passing.
  • Nopedotjpeg
    Nopedotjpeg Posts: 1,805 Member
    bump. Make a difference, and send an email and make a call to your representative and senators!
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