Biggest Loser comment about high calorie day??

SHBoss1673

Well said. I dont believe for a second it will stop the 'eat your exercise cals debate'!

People, especially Americans, have been taught that you need to be on a strict diet and take a pill to lose weight. No one actually BELIEVES me when I tell them I have lost 30 pounds by eating!! They laugh, roll their eyes and say "Yeah, right!"

The way I have lost all of my weight is by changing the foods that I eat. I still eat a burger-it is just a 3-7% fat burger, 3 oz, with 1/2 of american cheese and a whole wheat bun. I really could not eat a fast food burger at this point, cuz mine are so yummy.

Thanks for always taking the time to write an informative response that is helpful!!

very welcome M'lady! :bigsmile:

MyaPapaya75

I hate that people mis-interpret the whole exercise calorie thing.

Jillian doesn't use any different concept than we do here. she just uses different semantics.

the term "exercise calories" is just a way for people to say, stay within a certain range. don't go too far below your maintenance calories.

Im glad you stated this ........

thejarviclan

[They gain back their weight because diet & exercise alone doesn't work for the morbidly obese. They are no different than all the other people who lose massive quantities of weight and can't keep it off because of ghrelin, body set point and other physiological factors.

I know that goes against the entire premise of the show and what people on diets want to believe, but that's what science and clinical data shows... your chances of losing 50 lb. or more and keeping it off for 5 years or more are around 2%, probably lower.

Why should the BL contestants be able to beat those odds? It's not realistic to expect that.

I must be an odds beater then (I don't feel like one.) I lost over 100 pounds 6 years ago and have kept it off. Granted, I went back to work last year and gained back 21 pounds, but I've lost half of it again since January 9th.

What did it take? Daily exercise (typically an hour or more) and eating my maintenance calorie allotment (1700 calories.)

I agree that those folks didn't keep the weight off because they resumed old habits again. I found out the *hard* way when I stopped exercising because I was "too tired" after a long work day. Now I know I HAVE to buck it up and find time - or my body will respond with spongy muscles and increased fat!

criztawl

Weight Watcher's is pretty much a program that varies your calorie intake due to having weekly points and such that you can spread out over the week as you like.

I personally think that having a higher day here and there (not going super crazy) makes your body/metabolism go "Hey, what's going on" and you see a pretty good loss.

criztawl

Weight Watcher's is pretty much a program that varies your calorie intake due to having weekly points and such that you can spread out over the week as you like.

I personally think that having a higher day here and there (not going super crazy) makes your body/metabolism go "Hey, what's going on" and you see a pretty good loss.

candycaneps

The contestants on the BL might be eating their exercise calories. They have a ton of weight lose, and the weight comes off easier in the state they are in. Jillian Michaels did say that their diet isn't realistic.

petunia

And for anyone confused, it's this simple, the LESS weight you have to lose the smaller your deficit can afford to be. Why? Because the body takes all fuel sources into account when adjusting the metabolic rate, if you have lots of food coming in on a regular basis, then it stores fat, if you have just enough, and your fat stores are sufficient, then it burns the food calories first, and then fat, and then (if necessary) it breaks down protein, if you aren't taking in enough food, and your fat stores are low, the body sees this as famine, and starts reducing the things that USE that fuel, which is primarily muscle, it does this by breaking down the muscle and burning it, which raises your body fat % and makes you less defined and more "jiggly", AND it slows your metabolism making it harder to lose weight.

That's about as plain as I can make it.

I WUV U Banks! :smooched:

This is perfectly stated... as usual! :glasses:

Georg

This makes perfect sense. :noway:
Thank you!
:flowerforyou:

mrsyac2

Oh and just wanted to add, I just redid the calculations for that woman on the Jillian Michaels show.

I couldn't remember her exact numbers but I estimated on what I thought It was (correct me if you have the exact numbers)

I thought she said her numbers were:

about mid 40's

about 140 lbs

about 5' 1"

and underactive thyroid (inactive lifestyle)

and her maintenance calories came out to just above 1600, so Jillian told her to slowly raise her calories to maintenance level and use exercise to slowly lose weight and stay at a certain level for the rest of her life, which I totally and completely agree with.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN EVERYONE ON HERE WHO IS 5' 1" AND ABOUT 140 should be at 1600 maintenance, everyone is different, do your own calculations.
here is a link to a calorie calculator where you can put your own numbers in and find out where your maintenance calories should be.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/calorie-calculator/NU00598

The lady was active and worked out regularly- but since she hit 40 years old put on those female hormone driven 10lbs- She wasn't eating enough- Jillian told her to slowly increase her calories up to 1600 and to stay at that amount of calories forever and to continue to workout-- It wasn't her thyroid that was the other caller--

She said she doesn't want anyone eating 1200 calories she said that is too little amount of calories.-

PhotographerOfNature

Great info! Thanks everyone! :flowerforyou:

truddy6647

Found this info...

Biggest Loser Diet

* modified, low carbohydrate diet 45% of calories from carbohydrates (mostly fruits, vegetables and some whole grains), 30% of calories from protein, and 25% of calories from healthy fats or oils (seeds, nuts, avocado, olive oil)
* no “white stuff”
* whole foods, elemental ingredients
* 4-3-2-1: daily 4 cups minimum of fruits and vegetables, 3 servings of healthy proteins (e.g. fish, skinless chicken breast, 93% lean ground turkey), 2 servings of whole grains, and 1 serving of healthy fat.
* Aim for everyone to have 1 serving of fish daily.
* There is room for 1 optional treat per day.
* Cereals must have minimum 5 grams of fiber per serving and less than 5 grams of sugar per serving. This limits the cereals to certain oatmeals, bran cereals, or other high fiber cereals on the market.
* Goal of 7 calories per pound of body weight for daily caloric intake. This is recalculated after significant weight loss.

Here:

http://rebeccascritchfield.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/science-behind-the-biggest-loser-diet/

By that goal I would need to eat more calories than what I eat in one day

HikeThatMountain

BUMP!

BackToFree

One of our recent winners for the Aus BL (Wont say which one, but will say it's been in the last 3 seasons) is quoted saying that she was on 800-1000 cals a day for the duration of the competition, and working out 2hrs in the morning and 2-4hrs in the arvo/evening, plus whatever they had them do as "challenges".

I don't watch the show anymore. Not sure what the American one is like, but I find this Aus one disgustingly unhealthy.

__Di__

I think I read somewhere that when you eat the same amount of calories everyday you can hit a sort of plateau in your weight loss and your metabolism slows down a lot. I once did I diet where I had 1 meal, 2 treats a day, nothing else, and I could eat whatever I wanted (in sensible means) I suppose that was varied from day to day and I lost a stone in a couple of weeks

That is a myth fortunately. If you are at a deficit, you will lose weight.

jkal1979

I remember reading in Bob Harper's Skinny Rules that he recommends having a high calorie meal (instead of a day) one day a week.

OneDimSim

This may be old info, but i have heard ~1200 calories for the women and ~1500 for the men. Obviously with the amount of exercise they do, they are way into the negatives on Net calories. They wear those Fit Bit (or Similar) armbands to be sure they are hitting daily burn rates. I think there was an offhand comment that they do get a higher calorie day once per week? I don't think it is "news" that our bodies seem to respond to "changing it up"

OneDimSim

Hmm, resurrecting a 4-yr old thread to advertise ?

Ha! Just noticed....major ZOMBIE!

irishblonde2011

On Australia's bl which just finished up. The trainers and contestants both said they aim to hit 1,000 cals per day!!
They also DON'T eat back exercise cals. A few of them even said no I never go over 800 in front of the trainers. I could not believe that they are advertising such a low cal diet!!!!!

arewethereyet

Yea, the advert zombies pull up 4 and 5 yr old threads. It was so simple back then, brings back memories :laugh:

Actually loved the info Banks shared on this thread.

Helped me lose 36 back then, and another 13 so far this time.

and I like the idea of one meal where I eat what I want (although I never call anything a cheat0