HRM Cals Burned - Fitness experts advice please!

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  • jhardenbergh
    jhardenbergh Posts: 1,035 Member
    You are way over thinking things. Just record what your trusty hrm says and be good with that. If you have hit a plateau than stop and reevaluate your goals and eating habits. Up the food intake maybe or change your workout routine for two weeks and see what shakes your body up.

    This is some good advice, weightloss is probably 75% diet, maybe even more. And it is important to change up your workout routine. Once your body becomes accustomed to that workout, you may see less results. I reevaluate about every month or two. But, everyone is different so listen to your body, experiment a little.

    My comments early wasn't to belittle you. I saw some of your bullying comments. It was more to help. I know for me, to keep this going I had to make it as easy as possible, which is part of the reason why it was hard for me at first to change up my exercise routine. I use to just walk for exercise, then went to walk/jog, then went to jog, then went to run. Then incorporated other cardio machines, then did a little of each cardio machines. Now doing weights and cardio and depending on the days, some days are heavy lifting and light cardio, some are 50% cardio/50% weights days, and some are just cardio.

    Keep dong what your doing, experiment a little bit and don't be afraid to change it up a little.
  • lauehorn
    lauehorn Posts: 183
    I understand what you are saying (I think). You only want to count for the ADDITIONAL calorie burn. If you were to log the calories while sleeping, those aren't EXTRA calories, they replace the ones already "estimated" by MFP as "actual" calories burned. Ie. If you burn 70 cal/hour while sleeping x 24 hours sleeping, that's a base calorie need of 1,680 calories per day. If you run for an hour instead, at 400 cal/hour, you wouldn't just ADD 400 to the 1,680. You first have to take out 70 calories (70*23 hours) and then add 400 for that last hour of the day for a total of 2,110 (as opposed to 2,180). Is that what you are saying?
  • kirstiey
    kirstiey Posts: 243
    Wow not quite sure why you jump all over people who are trying to help you! I saw nothing "bullying" of the sort. Ive been using a HRM since August of last year. I start it right when my warm up begins and stop it after my cool down. Ive lost 41lb so far doing so. That is what most everyone I know who has a HRM does as well. I just don't see the point in being rude when people were trying to answer your question, regardless if they answered it to your approval or not.

    It wasn't the answers or suggestions. I have thanked EVERYONE for these. It is the inference that I am in some way "silly" or OCD. I don't think the comments needed that bit. If you think that in some way helps people, then I am not sure how to take that. It's just not my way and all it did way make me feel like a ****head for asking.
  • kirstiey
    kirstiey Posts: 243
    You are way over thinking things. Just record what your trusty hrm says and be good with that. If you have hit a plateau than stop and reevaluate your goals and eating habits. Up the food intake maybe or change your workout routine for two weeks and see what shakes your body up.

    This is some good advice, weightloss is probably 75% diet, maybe even more. And it is important to change up your workout routine. Once your body becomes accustomed to that workout, you may see less results. I reevaluate about every month or two. But, everyone is different so listen to your body, experiment a little.

    My comments early wasn't to belittle you. I saw some of your bullying comments. It was more to help. I know for me, to keep this going I had to make it as easy as possible, which is part of the reason why it was hard for me at first to change up my exercise routine. I use to just walk for exercise, then went to walk/jog, then went to jog, then went to run. Then incorporated other cardio machines, then did a little of each cardio machines. Now doing weights and cardio and depending on the days, some days are heavy lifting and light cardio, some are 50% cardio/50% weights days, and some are just cardio.

    Keep dong what your doing, experiment a little bit and don't be afraid to change it up a little.

    No, your comment was really helpful. I was thanking you for yours :heart:

    it was the couple of others I found hurtful. I am so twisted up with trying to explain the original issue and trying to undo all of the confusion, I think the whole thread is lost now! :blushing: I will just take everyones advice and chill out, change up the exercise, revise what I am eating and ignore the HRM conundrum for now. I hope that will mean goodbye Platau.
  • kirstiey
    kirstiey Posts: 243
    I understand what you are saying (I think). You only want to count for the ADDITIONAL calorie burn. If you were to log the calories while sleeping, those aren't EXTRA calories, they replace the ones already "estimated" by MFP as "actual" calories burned. Ie. If you burn 70 cal/hour while sleeping x 24 hours sleeping, that's a base calorie need of 1,680 calories per day. If you run for an hour instead, at 400 cal/hour, you wouldn't just ADD 400 to the 1,680. You first have to take out 70 calories (70*23 hours) and then add 400 for that last hour of the day for a total of 2,110 (as opposed to 2,180). Is that what you are saying?

    Yes exactly!!!!!!! xxxxx :love: But it is best not to start this up again. I do over think things, but it is that I can never take things at face value with weight. Plateaus mess with common sense and make you question everything. It is great that some people on here have managed to get this across in a kind and informative way.
  • Hey guys, just some advice really.

    I am using my new HRM for a few weeks now (Which I love!!)

    I am basically taking the total calories on the display, dividing it by the total mins it has been recording my efforts and then multiplying this number by the actually amount of mins I was in the Target heart rate (cardio / fatburing zone).

    e.g. 60 mins work out, 400 cals. In target HR for 45 mins = 300cals burned in reality.

    Is this giving me the most accurate reading?

    Thanks peeps


    I used to be a member of the weightloss resources site and on there if you wanted to manually enter your calorie burn from your hrm there was a box (saying background calories) you had to tick to deduct them.

    I was surprised this site did not have that option on here.
  • jhardenbergh
    jhardenbergh Posts: 1,035 Member
    You are way over thinking things. Just record what your trusty hrm says and be good with that. If you have hit a plateau than stop and reevaluate your goals and eating habits. Up the food intake maybe or change your workout routine for two weeks and see what shakes your body up.

    This is some good advice, weightloss is probably 75% diet, maybe even more. And it is important to change up your workout routine. Once your body becomes accustomed to that workout, you may see less results. I reevaluate about every month or two. But, everyone is different so listen to your body, experiment a little.

    My comments early wasn't to belittle you. I saw some of your bullying comments. It was more to help. I know for me, to keep this going I had to make it as easy as possible, which is part of the reason why it was hard for me at first to change up my exercise routine. I use to just walk for exercise, then went to walk/jog, then went to jog, then went to run. Then incorporated other cardio machines, then did a little of each cardio machines. Now doing weights and cardio and depending on the days, some days are heavy lifting and light cardio, some are 50% cardio/50% weights days, and some are just cardio.

    Keep dong what your doing, experiment a little bit and don't be afraid to change it up a little.

    No, your comment was really helpful. I was thanking you for yours :heart:

    it was the couple of others I found hurtful. I am so twisted up with trying to explain the original issue and trying to undo all of the confusion, I think the whole thread is lost now! :blushing: I will just take everyones advice and chill out, change up the exercise, revise what I am eating and ignore the HRM conundrum for now. I hope that will mean goodbye Platau.

    oh, ok, I feel better now, thanks for clarifying. keep up the good work.
  • kirstiey
    kirstiey Posts: 243
    Hey guys, just some advice really.

    I am using my new HRM for a few weeks now (Which I love!!)

    I am basically taking the total calories on the display, dividing it by the total mins it has been recording my efforts and then multiplying this number by the actually amount of mins I was in the Target heart rate (cardio / fatburing zone).

    e.g. 60 mins work out, 400 cals. In target HR for 45 mins = 300cals burned in reality.

    Is this giving me the most accurate reading?

    Thanks peeps


    I used to be a member of the weightloss resources site and on there if you wanted to manually enter your calorie burn from your hrm there was a box (saying background calories) you had to tick to deduct them.

    I was surprised this site did not have that option on here.

    Me too!!! That's where I got this idea from! I am so glad at least some people know what I am on about, even if we all are as "mad" as each other. (I am not calling you mad BTW):laugh:
  • Hey guys, just some advice really.

    I am using my new HRM for a few weeks now (Which I love!!)

    I am basically taking the total calories on the display, dividing it by the total mins it has been recording my efforts and then multiplying this number by the actually amount of mins I was in the Target heart rate (cardio / fatburing zone).

    e.g. 60 mins work out, 400 cals. In target HR for 45 mins = 300cals burned in reality.

    Is this giving me the most accurate reading?

    Thanks peeps


    I used to be a member of the weightloss resources site and on there if you wanted to manually enter your calorie burn from your hrm there was a box (saying background calories) you had to tick to deduct them.

    I was surprised this site did not have that option on here.

    Me too!!! That's where I got this idea from! I am so glad at least some people know what I am on about, even if we all are as "mad" as each other. (I am not calling you mad BTW):laugh:

    I have been known to be described as mad :tongue:
    I have actually wanted to ask the same question before but I didn't know how to explain it.
    When we are being advised to eat all our exercise calories we don't want to overeat them,it be "only"be 100-200 a time but it all adds up.
    So I totally understand where you are coming from :flowerforyou:
  • Di3012
    Di3012 Posts: 2,247 Member
    December child can you read the Orig post. You are out of context.

    That is exactly what I am saying, which is why I ONLY want to log the amount of cals burned on the target Zone, not the general ones the HRM is logging whilst my heart is beating generally in warm up and cool downs.

    Thanks again for all comments but please respond to the question, not the comments after it. :flowerforyou:

    Just log the whole session, don't try to subtract this, add that. Just the whole session, this includes the warm up and the warm down - they are after all, part of the training session.

    By the way, I wasn't trying to be horrible or anything, just posting my own opinion. No offence meant.
  • mike41french
    mike41french Posts: 6 Member
    In amongst all of this you have had the correct advice. It might be considered making things complicated but if you want to eat as close to your target calories as possible (which you do if you are in a plateau or close to your target) then it is important to deal with the complexity.

    So here is an example I used in a thread yesterday...

    My suggested BMR = 2400
    Exercise = 600 cals
    Duration = 60 minutes

    60 minutes of my BMR = (2400 / 24) 100 cals - these are what is being described as background calories in this thread

    Net exercise is (600 - 100) 500.

    I could easily have between 60 and 90 minutes exercise a day - which could result in 700-1000 calories of difference over a week. I'd rather get it as accurate as possible - especially down at the 0.5-1lb per week loss or maintenance.

    That said your daily activity varies as well which is why I'm now adding a fitbit to my gadgets. Today I'm on an 1840 target (-500 cals deficit) and I added another 634 through HRM monitored exercise and another 650 in general activity tracked by the fitbit (above sedentary).

    You'll never be 100% but I do think it is worth being as close as you can - for when you get to maintenance. The more you understand about your body, metabolism and exercise the better - IMVHO.
  • lauehorn
    lauehorn Posts: 183
    It's probably best to start eating mindfully and listening to your body. If you eat foods that are nutrient-dense and high quality, and eat them slowly enough that your body triggers you when you are full, you're better off than just counting calories alone. Be mindful of the numbers, but also be mindful of what you put in your body and what you body is telling you about how it feels (whether it's full, tired, thirsty, etc). You'll go farther that way rather than nitpicking over 50 - 100 calories.
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