Negative calorie foods!
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Some people are so rude on this site... its really a shame.
being rude is not cool at all.0 -
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Negative calorie foods: Diet gimmick or weight-loss aid?
I've heard that eating negative calorie foods might be a good diet strategy. But what exactly are they?
Answer
from Donald Hensrud, M.D. - Mayo Clinic
The Internet abounds with lists of purported negative calorie foods — foods that supposedly take more energy to process and digest than they provide in calories. The theory is that you can lose weight by eating lots of these negative calorie foods. Proponents claim, for example, that you will burn 80 calories digesting a 25-calorie piece of broccoli, for a net loss of 55 calories.
Celery is another commonly cited example of a negative calorie food because it's made mainly of water and cellulose, an undigestible vegetable fiber. Other foods sometimes labeled as negative calorie include asparagus, berries, broccoli, cauliflower, grapefruit and cabbage.
Here's the reality. Throughout the day, about 10 percent of your total energy expenditure goes to digest and store the nutrients in the food you eat. Foods that contain few calories, such as celery, require a relatively large amount of energy to digest compared with the amount of calories they provide. That means it's theoretically possible to have a negative calorie food, but there are no reputable scientific studies to prove that certain foods are negative calorie or that they aid in weight loss.
The bottom line: Many of the foods touted as negative calorie foods are vegetables and fruits that can aid in losing weight as part of an overall healthy diet plan. But they're probably not negative calorie and they're not a magic bullet for weight loss. In addition, following extreme diets that promote eating only a few foods can cause you to miss out on important nutrients. The key to successful weight loss is adopting a healthy lifestyle that includes a balanced diet and regular exercise.0 -
you certainly could not gain weight eating the aforementioned foods in their original state.
Theoretically that is untrue. If you exceeded your TDEE eating those foods, even in their natural state, you would gain weight.
However, on a practical level it is high unlikely that you would, or would even be physically capable of, eating the volumes of those food required to exceed your maintenance calories if your diet consisted of only the foods listed in the OP.
I think this is true even with the stuff like fruit because even though it contains frustose this has an affect on liver glycogen which effectively creates a "stop eating" signal to your brain when glycogen stores are full. You would literally have to force yourself to eat...
humm ..why mention it then? useless info , Did I say to exceed your TDEE with foods? Did the original poster? :flowerforyou: relax and have a nice glass of cold water :drinker: it's not that serious , don't be so tedious0 -
,And with celery (as an example) getting to 10,000 cals is going to be A LOT of celery. So have fun with that! ;-)
I actually tried this once as an experiment. I got up to about 90 or some calories and frankly I just got bored of eating...
Bahahahaaa I'm gettin a good laugh at how worked up people are getting about eating healthy foods....ummmm, I'm confused! LOL.
You're not confused. You're embarrassed that people called you out on the negative calorie thing so you're trying to act like they're the ones with a problem. NO ONE is disputing that fruits and vegetables are healthful, good foods to eat. They've only said that you must count their calories.
Really now?? Why don't you go back and read a little... cause I'm pretty sure I've seen people post stating "I won't be stuffing my face with these things" and trust me hunny, I have nothing to be embarrassed about, call me otu on whatever you like, I'm not backing down, you don't agree with what I say, that's fine with me no sweat off my back. I will continue to eat endless amounts of fruits and veggies and continue to be fit ad healthy... thank you
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All those foods on the list are great for you so why be negative
Exactly!!! there is nothing wrong with any of these foods and true there really isnt a negative calorie. HOWEVER... what is the harm in incorporating these items into your diet. It is true that there are some foods that fill you up more (like an apple) or some foods that bulk up in your digestive track and bloat you more. Instead of being so rude about the OP, why not simply state your facts (for or against) and move on.
negative calories or not, the body needs a balanced diet. so regardless it really doesnt matter.
That is completely unrelated to the topic. We all know that those foods are fantastic foods to add into our diet (im eating one now for lunch
) and we eat them. But we are talking about how they are not negative calories and should be counted. Because the digestion calories are part of our BMR and go into our maintenance.
Thats like someone posting a topic about "lifting a billion reps with pink dumbbells is the best way to go!!!" then everyone disputing, with comments about how it shouldn't matter because lifting is good for you.0 -
I now dub cupcakes a negative calorie food. Eat away!!!0
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Ok I am so guilty of stuffing my face with these items
I do log it tho!
Spinach, zucchini, and tomatoes are all part of my dinner tonight!0 -
you certainly could not gain weight eating the aforementioned foods in their original state.
Theoretically that is untrue. If you exceeded your TDEE eating those foods, even in their natural state, you would gain weight.
However, on a practical level it is high unlikely that you would, or would even be physically capable of, eating the volumes of those food required to exceed your maintenance calories if your diet consisted of only the foods listed in the OP.
I think this is true even with the stuff like fruit because even though it contains frustose this has an affect on liver glycogen which effectively creates a "stop eating" signal to your brain when glycogen stores are full. You would literally have to force yourself to eat...
humm ..why mention it then? useless info , Did I say to exceed your TDEE with foods? Did the original poster? :flowerforyou: relax and have a nice glass of cold water :drinker: it's not that serious , don't be so tedious
It's not useless info, far from it. The cat claws aren't necessary.0 -
Whilst there is no such thing as a negative calorie food it seems undoubtedly clear that if you incorporate the foods included in the OP you will be able to eat a greater volume of food for less calories than say processed stuff. This will help with satiety, lessen feelings of deprivation, and make it less likely you will overeat.
I doubt anyone got fat in a real world situation because they ate too much celery...
^^ This.0 -
,And with celery (as an example) getting to 10,000 cals is going to be A LOT of celery. So have fun with that! ;-)
I actually tried this once as an experiment. I got up to about 90 or some calories and frankly I just got bored of eating...
Bahahahaaa I'm gettin a good laugh at how worked up people are getting about eating healthy foods....ummmm, I'm confused! LOL.
You're not confused. You're embarrassed that people called you out on the negative calorie thing so you're trying to act like they're the ones with a problem. NO ONE is disputing that fruits and vegetables are healthful, good foods to eat. They've only said that you must count their calories.
Really now?? Why don't you go back and read a little... cause I'm pretty sure I've seen people post stating "I won't be stuffing my face with these things" and trust me hunny, I have nothing to be embarrassed about, call me otu on whatever you like, I'm not backing down, you don't agree with what I say, that's fine with me no sweat off my back. I will continue to eat endless amounts of fruits and veggies and continue to be fit ad healthy... thank you
They had a valid point. If you eat too much of anything, including fruit, it's not going to be "negative." That's why so many people started gaining weight when WW changed their points system. I actually saw people on their forums at the time, so upset because fruit was free so they ate 10 pieces a day on top of their allotted points and started gaining weight. I don't care whether you back down or not. It doesn't make it true. :flowerforyou:0 -
You are correct that all of the foods you posted are healthy foods. And you have lost nearly 50 pounds, so are definitely doing some things right (congrats on your weight loss).Very well said (I wish there was an applauding happy face) Lol, hey but ya gotta appreciate people having nothing better to do then be all upset about someone posting about fruits and veggies ON A FITNESS SITE. Now I'm gonna go poke around and see how much weight all of these (sarcastic) people have lost!
But you should know that ON A FITNESS SITE, perpetuating weight loss myths can have a harmful effect on the community. Maybe that wasn't your intention. But the "negative calorie foods" idea has been around for awhile and misconstrued by many people.
I don't think this discussion is rude at all. I think it's direct. It's debatable whether the sarcasm is necessary. But no one got sarcastic until you became defensive and flippant yourself. Look back at the early responses. People were simply pointing out the correct information. There are some in the MFP community that feel a responsibility to point out factual inaccuracies and/or challenge unsubstantiated claims. Despite being labeled "mean," "elitist," "know-it-alls" etc., I think most people feel a sense of duty to the truth and want the MFP community to make educated decisions, not follow the latest diet fad.
I don't think anyone is arguing whether your list of foods are healthy or good for you or low in calories. I think the point is not perpetuating a long-held myth that there are foods that somehow create a real-time calorie deficit. I hope anyone that posts about Negative Calorie Foods will be reminded that it is a myth, so that anyone curious about Negative Calorie Foods will get the truth.
You can change your wording/intent, tell folks to chill out, and act like this is all a light-hearted laugh for you. That's fine. It doesn't change the fact that your original post did perpetuate a common dieting myth that deserved to be debunked.0 -
My problem is that you titled this thread "negative calorie foods" when that has been shown (read: proven) to be false. While all of those foods are certainly healthy and will benefit anyone trying to lose weight and be healthy, you should have titled the thread "healthy, low calorie foods", not "negative"... that is why everyone is reacting. no one is doubting the benefits of them
**EDIT - PS: except for dandelion. no way in HELL I'd be eating that :laugh:
Did I ever say (when you log your food, to log apple as -80cal Or to not even bother logging these foods?)... Nope, don't think I did. Ya see it's kinda like people logging 40min of cleaning (that they've done every day for the last 5yrs), or sex, if these things burn more calories, GREAT, it's a bonus, If these foods offer me nutrients, vitamins make me feel full longer, boost metabolism, your darn skippy I'm gonna eat em and log them as I have for the last almost 2yrs now, even IF the body digesting them does burn calories doing that, It's a bonus. I'm not gonna eat off of this list all day long, thinking I have consumed NO calories then gorge out on steak cake and unicorns all nite till I reach my 1200 calories not counting the fruits or veggies. It's called common sense!0 -
is is drinking tea can be a substitute of water intake on your 8 glasses a day count on here ? sorry i am new here ? or i still have ti drink the 8 glasses of water still ?Would you guys agree with "Water" as negative calorie food/drink.
Its gives zero calories to the body but if you drink it chilled, body needs to spend energy to warm it to body temperature, move it around to all the tissues in the body etc etc.
In a way, but this warming of water would be included in your maintenance calories already as MFP assumes you would be drinking, so water would just be 0 on MFP for that reason.0 -
Cool, I'm going to eat a diet of 10,000 cals a day of just these foods, I'll be shredded in no time. Thanks OP.
Oh but if you log them you'll be actually -10,000 and then you'll have to make up the difference with cake!
The cake is a lie. 0 -
Interesting thing - I got a bodymedia fit and noticed I actually burn 200 more calories on my rest days where I clean my apartment than my actual work out days! Weird eh? :]
Most times when people mention "negative calorie foods" it implies that there is no need to log them. It has been posted like that many times on here ^-^ which is why people jump on it :]0 -
My problem is that you titled this thread "negative calorie foods" when that has been shown (read: proven) to be false. While all of those foods are certainly healthy and will benefit anyone trying to lose weight and be healthy, you should have titled the thread "healthy, low calorie foods", not "negative"... that is why everyone is reacting. no one is doubting the benefits of them
**EDIT - PS: except for dandelion. no way in HELL I'd be eating that :laugh:
Did I ever say (when you log your food, to log apple as -80cal Or to not even bother logging these foods?)... Nope, don't think I did. Ya see it's kinda like people logging 40min of cleaning (that they've done every day for the last 5yrs), or sex, if these things burn more calories, GREAT, it's a bonus, If these foods offer me nutrients, vitamins make me feel full longer, boost metabolism, your darn skippy I'm gonna eat em and log them as I have for the last almost 2yrs now, even IF the body digesting them does burn calories doing that, It's a bonus. I'm not gonna eat off of this list all day long, thinking I have consumed NO calories then gorge out on steak cake and unicorns all nite till I reach my 1200 calories not counting the fruits or veggies. It's called common sense!
I was kind of on your side until you posted this. The first person didn't say anything rude, they were just disagreeing. If you can't handle that, perhaps you should get thicker skin. Best of luck.0 -
Ok I am so guilty of stuffing my face with these items
I do log it tho!
Spinach, zucchini, and tomatoes are all part of my dinner tonight!
Go you:happy: Spinach and zucchini are my faves too!!0 -
Interesting thing - I got a bodymedia fit and noticed I actually burn 200 more calories on my rest days where I clean my apartment than my actual work out days! Weird eh? :]
Most times when people mention "negative calorie foods" it implies that there is no need to log them. It has been posted like that many times on here ^-^ which is why people jump on it :]
Well I wished people would have addressed that instead. Like I said I log all food, in fact I'm a bit obsessed with it, and I never once stated not to log. My mother always told me "never to assume" and I WOULD NEVER EVER say not to log, shoot I log my water, even my nibbles on things everyday. So again never said not to log these foods! :happy:0 -
You are correct that all of the foods you posted are healthy foods. And you have lost nearly 50 pounds, so are definitely doing some things right (congrats on your weight loss).Very well said (I wish there was an applauding happy face) Lol, hey but ya gotta appreciate people having nothing better to do then be all upset about someone posting about fruits and veggies ON A FITNESS SITE. Now I'm gonna go poke around and see how much weight all of these (sarcastic) people have lost!
But you should know that ON A FITNESS SITE, perpetuating weight loss myths can have a harmful effect on the community. Maybe that wasn't your intention. But the "negative calorie foods" idea has been around for awhile and misconstrued by many people.
I don't think this discussion is rude at all. I think it's direct. It's debatable whether the sarcasm is necessary. But no one got sarcastic until you became defensive and flippant yourself. Look back at the early responses. People were simply pointing out the correct information. There are some in the MFP community that feel a responsibility to point out factual inaccuracies and/or challenge unsubstantiated claims. Despite being labeled "mean," "elitist," "know-it-alls" etc., I think most people feel a sense of duty to the truth and want the MFP community to make educated decisions, not follow the latest diet fad.
I don't think anyone is arguing whether your list of foods are healthy or good for you or low in calories. I think the point is not perpetuating a long-held myth that there are foods that somehow create a real-time calorie deficit. I hope anyone that posts about Negative Calorie Foods will be reminded that it is a myth, so that anyone curious about Negative Calorie Foods will get the truth.
You can change your wording/intent, tell folks to chill out, and act like this is all a light-hearted laugh for you. That's fine. It doesn't change the fact that your original post did perpetuate a common dieting myth that deserved to be debunked.
Thanks KG, as always very eloquent.0 -
Ok I am so guilty of stuffing my face with these items
I do log it tho!
Spinach, zucchini, and tomatoes are all part of my dinner tonight!
Go you:happy: Spinach and zucchini are my faves too!!
baked zucchini for my pasta tonight a whole zucchini is about 32 calories xD
Sometimes I do get too lazy to log things like that. Oops hehe xD0 -
Question
Negative calorie foods: Diet gimmick or weight-loss aid?
I've heard that eating negative calorie foods might be a good diet strategy. But what exactly are they?
Answer
from Donald Hensrud, M.D. - Mayo Clinic
The Internet abounds with lists of purported negative calorie foods — foods that supposedly take more energy to process and digest than they provide in calories. The theory is that you can lose weight by eating lots of these negative calorie foods. Proponents claim, for example, that you will burn 80 calories digesting a 25-calorie piece of broccoli, for a net loss of 55 calories.
Celery is another commonly cited example of a negative calorie food because it's made mainly of water and cellulose, an undigestible vegetable fiber. Other foods sometimes labeled as negative calorie include asparagus, berries, broccoli, cauliflower, grapefruit and cabbage.
Here's the reality. Throughout the day, about 10 percent of your total energy expenditure goes to digest and store the nutrients in the food you eat. Foods that contain few calories, such as celery, require a relatively large amount of energy to digest compared with the amount of calories they provide. That means it's theoretically possible to have a negative calorie food, but there are no reputable scientific studies to prove that certain foods are negative calorie or that they aid in weight loss.
The bottom line: Many of the foods touted as negative calorie foods are vegetables and fruits that can aid in losing weight as part of an overall healthy diet plan. But they're probably not negative calorie and they're not a magic bullet for weight loss. In addition, following extreme diets that promote eating only a few foods can cause you to miss out on important nutrients. The key to successful weight loss is adopting a healthy lifestyle that includes a balanced diet and regular exercise.
I really like this. Thank you.0 -
I never understand how people take out the time to post rude comments.0
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,And with celery (as an example) getting to 10,000 cals is going to be A LOT of celery. So have fun with that! ;-)
I actually tried this once as an experiment. I got up to about 90 or some calories and frankly I just got bored of eating...
Bahahahaaa I'm gettin a good laugh at how worked up people are getting about eating healthy foods....ummmm, I'm confused! LOL.
You're not confused. You're embarrassed that people called you out on the negative calorie thing so you're trying to act like they're the ones with a problem. NO ONE is disputing that fruits and vegetables are healthful, good foods to eat. They've only said that you must count their calories.
Really now?? Why don't you go back and read a little... cause I'm pretty sure I've seen people post stating "I won't be stuffing my face with these things" and trust me hunny, I have nothing to be embarrassed about, call me otu on whatever you like, I'm not backing down, you don't agree with what I say, that's fine with me no sweat off my back. I will continue to eat endless amounts of fruits and veggies and continue to be fit ad healthy... thank you
They had a valid point. If you eat too much of anything, including fruit, it's not going to be "negative." That's why so many people started gaining weight when WW changed their points system. I actually saw people on their forums at the time, so upset because fruit was free so they ate 10 pieces a day on top of their allotted points and started gaining weight. I don't care whether you back down or not. It doesn't make it true. :flowerforyou:
I never once stated not to log these items... I think people are mis intrepurting what I ment by the word "negative". Everyones body reacts differently to different foods, workouts, etc. All I stated in the OP was what negatie calorie foods are and what they have included, of course there's a debate over this, what isnt there a debate over on MFP, they great thing is we are all entitled to our own opinions, how you chose to use this information is up to you, I or one know that I will continue to log and incorporate even more of the foods on this list into my diet, I also never stated to "only eat these foods" this is just a list of what some people have claimed to be "negative calorie foods", Something I read, something that made me look into it further and something I thought I'd share... bottom line.0 -
YES! It is so funny...Charlie....Charlie... Great, now I have their voices in my head!I think if you cook it right, Unicorn meat is a negative calorie food...but that's the only one.
Good luck!
Unicorn meat is endangered! That means, if you've never had it before, you better hurry up and find some before it's all gone forever.
Anyone seen Charlie and Candy Mountain? 0 -
Contradicting a demonstrably false claim is not "rude" or being "negative". The number of ridiculous myths posted on MFP about dieting/nutrition/exercise and so forth is... well... ridiculous.
Why isn't it enough to say "These foods are rich in vitamins, minerals, fiber, and other fantastic stuff. They're low calorie too!"???? Why does everyone have to convert good food into something 'magic'? Why does everyone have to exaggerate the good stuff? Isn't 'good' good enough?0 -
And with celery (as an example) getting to 10,000 cals is going to be A LOT of celery. So have fun with that! ;-)
I actually tried this once as an experiment. I got up to about 90 or some calories and frankly I just got bored of eating...
Bahahahaaa I'm gettin a good laugh at how worked up people are getting about eating healthy foods....ummmm, I'm confused! LOL.
I don't think people are debating on whether or not the foods you listed are unhealthy (at least i hope so). They are indeed very healthy for you. What people are debating is the "negative" calorie aspect of it.
I agree people shouldn't be rude, I believe that people can disagree without being disagreeable but it's hard for some people to grasp that concept. *sigh*0 -
While they aren't negative calories per se, these foods are all very good for you and are low in calorie.
And hey, eating these veggies raw is even better for you! Plus, you eat less to satisfy your nutritional needs when eating a diet rich in fresh raw vegetables. The heat of cooking can minimize vitamins, damage proteins and fats, and destroy enzymes which benefit digestion. Eating more and more raw veggies increases how you feel... you will feel more satisfied and have more energy.
Eating raw veggies and such also helps with your immune system...can help to eliminate such issues as heartburn, gas, indigestion, etc.0 -
You are correct that all of the foods you posted are healthy foods. And you have lost nearly 50 pounds, so are definitely doing some things right (congrats on your weight loss).Very well said (I wish there was an applauding happy face) Lol, hey but ya gotta appreciate people having nothing better to do then be all upset about someone posting about fruits and veggies ON A FITNESS SITE. Now I'm gonna go poke around and see how much weight all of these (sarcastic) people have lost!
But you should know that ON A FITNESS SITE, perpetuating weight loss myths can have a harmful effect on the community. Maybe that wasn't your intention. But the "negative calorie foods" idea has been around for awhile and misconstrued by many people.
I don't think this discussion is rude at all. I think it's direct. It's debatable whether the sarcasm is necessary. But no one got sarcastic until you became defensive and flippant yourself. Look back at the early responses. People were simply pointing out the correct information. There are some in the MFP community that feel a responsibility to point out factual inaccuracies and/or challenge unsubstantiated claims. Despite being labeled "mean," "elitist," "know-it-alls" etc., I think most people feel a sense of duty to the truth and want the MFP community to make educated decisions, not follow the latest diet fad.
I don't think anyone is arguing whether your list of foods are healthy or good for you or low in calories. I think the point is not perpetuating a long-held myth that there are foods that somehow create a real-time calorie deficit. I hope anyone that posts about Negative Calorie Foods will be reminded that it is a myth, so that anyone curious about Negative Calorie Foods will get the truth.
You can change your wording/intent, tell folks to chill out, and act like this is all a light-hearted laugh for you. That's fine. It doesn't change the fact that your original post did perpetuate a common dieting myth that deserved to be debunked.
Thanks KG, as always very eloquent.
I agree, however I posted what I read, what I found to be intresting and something that made me look further into. Like many other posts what people decide to do with the information is up to them. I know this article did not make me go "hmmm well guess I can stop logging fruits and veggies" cmmon sense tells me, well regardless I'm still gonna log, if it does in fact create a defecit, well then that's a bonus and I might just add even some more of these items to my daily diet.
I never told anyone not to log, again, I posted something I found to be intresting along with the sites I found my information. It is a light hearted debate. I, as I'm sure many have, laughed about many things that were posted (not to mention I love a good debate no matter what the end result) Anyone who knows me, knows I'm not easily offended and will debate my heart out. But I also won't coward when someone is just plain rude to me. For the people who maybe were intrested in this post, and knew nothing about what to do with this information, learned something about it today.0 -
Wow that got ugly fast. I think everyone is just crabby because it is Monday. I already managed to offend a large group on Facebook today over something ridiculous. And who eats dandelion, btw??0
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I remember when I was a (chubby) kid. My grandmother bought some 'diet' chocolate candy. Through the course of the evening and late night, I ate the whole bag. Then the next day told my grandma that I was sure I had lost some weight overnight. As if. :laugh:0
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