CARBS

tigersword

Curious as your trainers stated reasoning for limiting carbs after 4pm

I'm pretty sure the reasoning has something to do with fat burning requiring long periods
of low blood sugar, and limiting the carbs will assist in that.

I can only verify that this advise has contributed to my weightloss, having no other substancial evidence.

The problem with that statement though, is it doesn't work like that. Fat burning requires low insulin, not low blood sugar. Eating anything, carbs, protein, fat, all will cause an insulin response, as just the act of eating causes insulin release, and protein is just as insulinogenic as carbs are. Which means even if you don't eat carbs after "x" time, if you eat anything at all, you still spike insulin and stop burning fat. That's why I hate the "eat 600 meals every 5 minutes" kind of advice, because it never allows you to fast long enough between meals to actually burn any fat.

Now, for a lot of people, cutting carbs after a certain time causes them to eat less calories, but that just proves that it's all a matter of calorie deficit and has nothing to do with the carbs specifically.

714rah714

Without carbs, I wouldn't be eating anything

ram210

Hey I know we are talking about carbs but does anybody know the maxium amount of sugar we should in take per day?

grinch031

Without carbs, I wouldn't be eating anything

I might've said the same thing until I discovered there is life without carbs. It isn't so bad either.

triciaj66

I don't think we are talking about carbs anymore !! Lol!!

tigersword

Hey I know we are talking about carbs but does anybody know the maxium amount of sugar we should in take per day?

I believe for a healthy individual, the absolute upper limit is 100 grams of sugar a day from all sources, but most nutritionists recommend staying under 40 grams. Personally, I don't care, my metabolism is healthy, so whether I eat 5 grams of sugar a day or 85 grams of sugar a day, it doesn't affect me.

FaithHopeBELIEVE

There is little or no nutritional benefit in "simple" carbs that are found in processed foods mostly.
IN addition, simple carbs/empty carbs are highly addictive- even if they are fat free, you end up
eating so much more than you can burn, and then the leftovers are stored, as you guessed it . . fat!

Complex carbs are the way to go- those found naturally like fruits, veggies and whol grains. But
be sure to watch the sugar content- don't over do it. My trainer has me limit any carbs to be
consumed before 4pm also.

If you eat enough protein and healthy fats, as well of complex carbs you should feel fuller, longer.

.Curious as your trainers stated reasoning for limiting carbs after 4pm

Same here as I hate reading limit after 3 or 4 or absolutely none after 7 pm. If I had that mindset I would surely binge. I have to always ignor that advice or I have to try my absolute best but ignoring it works better for me...thats just me though. I have my goal set at 40/30/30 and almost never go over carbs or much but you just cant tell me when to eat them or I'll go nuts.

ram210

cool thank u

grinch031

Now, for a lot of people, cutting carbs after a certain time causes them to eat less calories, but that just proves that it's all a matter of calorie deficit and has nothing to do with the carbs specifically.

Somehow I missed this one. So if cutting carbs after a certain time causes them to eat less, why doesn't it have anything to do with carbs specifically? Are you suggesting they are cutting carbs AND fat and protein or is there in fact something special about carbs?

RonSwanson66

Now, for a lot of people, cutting carbs after a certain time causes them to eat less calories, but that just proves that it's all a matter of calorie deficit and has nothing to do with the carbs specifically.

Somehow I missed this one. So if cutting carbs after a certain time causes them to eat less, why doesn't it have anything to do with carbs specifically? Are you suggesting they are cutting carbs AND fat and protein or is there in fact something special about carbs?

For the slow kids:

1. Cut a single macronutrient
2. Keep others constant
3. DeFacto reduction in calories

grinch031

Now, for a lot of people, cutting carbs after a certain time causes them to eat less calories, but that just proves that it's all a matter of calorie deficit and has nothing to do with the carbs specifically.

Somehow I missed this one. So if cutting carbs after a certain time causes them to eat less, why doesn't it have anything to do with carbs specifically? Are you suggesting they are cutting carbs AND fat and protein or is there in fact something special about carbs?

For the slow kids:

1. Cut a single macronutrient
2. Keep others constant
3. DeFacto reduction in calories

He didn't say anything about keeping others constant. He said simply cutting carbs. It could mean cutting carbs and replacing it with another nutrient.

Do you take pride in acting like a jerk? Serious question.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

Carbs

I usually try to stay under on carbs and sugar no matter what it's from. I have heard people say it's ok as long as its from fruits and veggies. What is everyones thoughts on this.

Focus on getting in adequate amounts of proteins and fats (a minimum of 1g of protein per lb of lbm and .35g of fat per lb of bw) and then spread out your cals as you please. There really is no upper limit on any macro, assuming you are getting decent amounts of protein and fats

Yes, eat proteins and fats and let the carbs fall where they may as long as you are satisfied and happy with the way your eating.

RonSwanson66

Now, for a lot of people, cutting carbs after a certain time causes them to eat less calories, but that just proves that it's all a matter of calorie deficit and has nothing to do with the carbs specifically.

Somehow I missed this one. So if cutting carbs after a certain time causes them to eat less, why doesn't it have anything to do with carbs specifically? Are you suggesting they are cutting carbs AND fat and protein or is there in fact something special about carbs?

For the slow kids:

1. Cut a single macronutrient
2. Keep others constant
3. DeFacto reduction in calories

He didn't say anything about keeping others constant. He said simply cutting carbs. It could mean cutting carbs and replacing it with another nutrient.

Cuttting carbs and replacing with another macro wouldn't lead to a reduction in calories. Hence other macros must have been held constant.

Do I really need to spell this out for you??

Do you take pride in acting like a jerk? Serious question.

Do you take pride in being deliberately obtuse? Serious question.

galegetsthin

There is little or no nutritional benefit in "simple" carbs that are found in processed foods mostly.
IN addition, simple carbs/empty carbs are highly addictive- even if they are fat free, you end up
eating so much more than you can burn, and then the leftovers are stored, as you guessed it . . fat!

Complex carbs are the way to go- those found naturally like fruits, veggies and whol grains. But
be sure to watch the sugar content- don't over do it. My trainer has me limit any carbs to be
consumed before 4pm also.

If you eat enough protein and healthy fats, as well of complex carbs you should feel fuller, longer.

Curious as your trainers stated reasoning for limiting carbs after 4pm

My trainer asked the same from me. He said it is because of my insulin resistance. My body doesnt process carbs as efficiently as it does other foods, and since I am more sedentary in the evenings, and not up and moving around, I should be more aware of them in the evening. My hormonal imbalances make me not use them right and the weight I gain settles all in my tummy because of the testosterone / insulin imbalances.

grinch031

Cuttting carbs and replacing with another macro wouldn't lead to a reduction in calories. Hence other macros must have been held constant.

Do I really need to spell this out for you??


Do you take pride in being deliberately obtuse? Serious question.

Yeah whatever. So maybe I misread his statement. And I was able to answer the second question myself just looking at the way you belittle everybody who you think is repeating bad science.