EAT THE CALORIES BURNED OR NOT

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  • YES, Yes and yes.
  • jillybeanruns
    jillybeanruns Posts: 1,420 Member
    With 85 pounds to lose, not necessarily. Go for 1/2.

    With 15 pounds to lose, yes.
  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
    Honestly, it's totally dependant on how you feel... However, personally, I eat at least some of them otherwise I am starving (well feel like it), get massive headaches (mostly from stress though) and stress out over calories and food... that's no way to live... even when trying to lose weight.
  • JessG11
    JessG11 Posts: 345 Member
    My doctor and trainer says nay! I know people who do and are successful and I know folks who don't and aren't. I think it's about finding the right balance for you!
  • MissJamiie
    MissJamiie Posts: 56 Member
    Here this was in another message board


    I still see many people that are confused or "question" the idea of eating your exercise calories. I wanted to try (as futile as this may turn out to be) to explain the concept in no uncertain terms. I'll save the question of "eating your exercise calories" for the end because I want people to understand WHY we say to do this.

    NOTE: I'm not going to use a lot of citation in this, but I don't want people thinking this is my opinion, I have put much careful research into it, most of which is very complicated and took a long time for me to sift through and summarize, and thanks to my chemical engineering backgroud I have the tools to read clinical studies and translate them (somewhat) into more human terms. Some of this information comes from sources I can't forward because they are from pay sites (like New England Journal of Medicine), so you can ask for anything, but I may or may not be able to readilly provide it for you (I can always tell you where to go if you want to though).

    I'll break it down into 3 sections.
    Section 1 will be our metabolic lifecycle or what happens when we eat and how our body burns fuel.
    Section 2 will be what happens when we receive too much, too little, or the wrong kind of fuel.
    Section 3 will be the steps needed to bring the body to a healthy state and how the body "thinks" on a sympathetic level (the automatic things our body does like digestion, and energy distribution).

    Section 1:
    Metabolism, in "layman's" terms, is the process of taking in food, breaking it down into it's components, using the food as fuel and building blocks, and the disposal of the poisons and waste that we ingest as part of it. Metabolism has three overall factors, genetics, nutrition, and environment. So who we are, what we eat, and how we live all contribute to how our metabolism works. You can control 2 of these 3 factors (nutrition, environment).
    When you eat food, it is broken down into it's component parts. Protein, vitamins and minerals are transported to the cells that need them to build new cells or repair existing cells. Fats(fatty acid molecules) and carbohydrates are processed (by 2 different means) and either immediately burned or stored for energy. Because the body doesn't store food in a pre-digested state, if you eat more carbs and fat then you need immediately, the body will save them for later in human fat cells (adipose tissue). This is important to realize because even if you eat the correct number of calories in a 24 hour period, if you eat in large quantities infrequently (more then you can burn during the digestion process), your body will still store the extra as fat and eliminate some of the nutrients. (Side note: this is why simple or processed carbs are worse for you compared with complex carbs)

    Section 2:
    The human body has a set metabolic rate (based on the criteria stated above), this rate can be changed by overall nutritional intake over a period of time, or by increasing activity levels also over a period of time (the exact amount of time for sustained increase in metabolic rates is the subject of some debate, but all studies agree that any increase in activity level will increse the metabolism).
    It is important to note that obesity does not drasticly change the level of metabolic process, that means that if you become obese, you don't burn a higher fat percentage just because you have more to burn.
    The balance of incomming fuel vs the amount of fuel the body uses is called maintenance calories, or the amount of calories it takes to run your body during a normal day (not including exercise or an extremely lethargic day). The metabolism is a sympathetic process, this means it will utilize lower brain function to control it's level, it also means it can actively "learn" how a body is fitness wise, and knows approximately how much energy it needs to function correctly. It also means automatic reactions will happen when too much or too little fuel is taken in. Too much fuel triggers fat storage, adipose tissue expands and fat is deposited, also free "fat" cells (triglycerides) will circulate in the blood stream (HDL and LDL cholesterol). Too little fuel (again, over an extended period) triggers a survival mode instinct, where the body recognizes the lack of fuel comming in and attempts to minimize body function (slowing down of non-essential organ function) and the maximization of fat storage. It's important to note that this isn't a "switch", the body does this as an ongoing analysis and will adjust the levels of this as needed (there is no "line" between normal and survival mode.).
    When you're activity level increases, the human body will perform multiple functions, first, readily available carbohydrates and fats are broken down into fuel, oxydized, and sent directly to the areas that need fuel, next adipose (body) fat is retreived, oxydized, and transported to the areas it is needed for additional fuel, 3rd (and this is important), if fat stores are not easilly reachable (as in people with a healthy BMI where adipose fat is much more scarce), muscle is broken down and used for energy. What people must realize is that the metabolism is an efficiency engine, it will take the best available source of energy, if fat stores are too far away from the systems that need them or too dense to break down quickly, then it won't wait for the slower transfer, it will start breaking down muscle (while still breaking down some of that dense fat as well).

    Section 3:
    The wonderful part of the human metabolic system is it's ability to adapt and change. Just because your body has entered a certain state, doesn't mean it will stay that way. The downfall to this is that if organs go unused over a long period, they can lose functionality and can take years to fully recover(and sometimes never).
    As long as there is no permenant damage to organ function, most people can "re-train" their metabolism to be more efficient by essentially showing it (with the intake of the proper levels and nutritional elements) that it will always have the right amount and types of fuel. This is also known as a healthy nutritional intake.
    Going to the extreme one way or the other with fuel consumption will cause the metabolism to react, the more drastic the swing, the more drastic the metabolism reacts to this (for example, a diet that limits fat or cabohydrate intake to very low levels). In general terms, the metabolism will react with predictable results if fuel levels remain in a range it associates with normal fuel levels. If you raise these fuel levels it will react by storing more fat, if you lower these fuel levels, it will react by shutting down processes and storing fat for the "upcomming" famine levels. The most prominent immediate issues (in no particular order) with caloric levels below normal are reduced muscle function, reduction of muscle size and density, liver and kidney failures, increase in LDL (bad) cholesterol levels, and gallstones .


    Now onto the question of "Eating your exercise calories"

    As I have hinted to throughout this summary of metabolic process, the body has a "range" in which it feels it is receiving the right amount of fuel. The range (as most doctors and research scientists agree) is somewhere between 500 calories above your maintenance calories and 1000 calories below your maintenance calories. This means that the metabolism won't drastically change it's functionality in this range, with that said, this is not exact, it is a range based on averages, you may have a larger or smaller range based on the 3 factors of metabolism stated at the top.
    On our website (MyFitnessPal), when you enter your goals, there is a prebuilt deficit designed to keep you in the "normal" metabolic functionality while still burning more calories then you take in. This goal DOES NOT INCLUDE exercise until you enter it. If you enter exercise into your daily plan, the site automatically adjusts your total caloric needs to stay within that normal range (in other words, just put your exercise in, don't worry about doing any additional calculations). Not eating exercise calories can bring you outside that range and (if done over an extended period of days or weeks) will gradually send your body into survival mode, making it harder (but not impossible) to continue to lose weight. The important thing to understand is (and this is REALLY important) the closer you are to your overall healthy weight (again, your metabolism views this a a range, not a specific number) the more prominant the survival mode becomes (remember, we talked about efficiency). This is because as fat becomes scarce, muscle is easier to break down and transport. And thus, the reason why it's harder to lose that "Last 10 pounds".

    I really hope this puts a lot of questions to bed. I know people struggle with this issue and I want to make sure they have the straight facts of why we all harp on eating your exercise calories.

    -Regards,
  • melsy21
    melsy21 Posts: 193 Member
    I vote yes!
  • Fit4Evolution
    Fit4Evolution Posts: 375 Member
    i never eat all the burned calories , if i am hungry after the workout then i know my body needs a little more calories ,and i never exceed more then 300cals at any snack
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member

    Oh good, I guess it was worth renewing the domain name for 1 more year :)
  • lauras777
    lauras777 Posts: 237 Member
    Yay, but only if i'm still hungry!! ;)
  • Nic529
    Nic529 Posts: 69 Member
    I have always thought that to maintain, you would eat your calories burned, but not if you have a large amount to lose...? If you have a good amount of excess weight to lose, wouldn't your body have plenty of fuel to use???
  • rubybeach
    rubybeach Posts: 529 Member
    Yay (but use a HRM)
  • Only if you are sure you are really burning what MFP thinks you are. I have a low heart rate so I dont trust it.
  • Articeluvsmemphis
    Articeluvsmemphis Posts: 1,987 Member
    YAY
  • cherbapp
    cherbapp Posts: 322
    My doctor and trainer says nay! I know people who do and are successful and I know folks who don't and aren't. I think it's about finding the right balance for you!

    My doc said no also...and I have lost just fine. :)
  • I do half of them.
  • Bringerofrain
    Bringerofrain Posts: 163 Member
    Yay if you're hungry
    Nay if you're not.

    Totally agree with ya

    I must agree also! :laugh:
  • yay
  • infamousmk
    infamousmk Posts: 6,033 Member
    YAYAYAY!
  • deadstarsunburn
    deadstarsunburn Posts: 1,337 Member
    Yay if you're hungry
    Nay if you're not.

    This, also
    find what works for you everyone has different experiences. It slows my weight loss down terribly, but I get cranky if I don't have a small bit of them so it's a trade off.
  • Generalle
    Generalle Posts: 201 Member

    Oh good, I guess it was worth renewing the domain name for 1 more year :)


    bahahahahaha
  • erikblock
    erikblock Posts: 230 Member
    http://shouldieatmyexercisecalories.com/

    Oops, I see that someone already posted it. :)
  • thedrummer1978
    thedrummer1978 Posts: 31 Member
    Yay if you're hungry
    Nay if you're not.

    I agree! I eat some of my burned calories but not all. Also, if I know I'll be eating out or eating something special, exercising is a great way to do so without feeling guilty.
  • amandaew83
    amandaew83 Posts: 14 Member
    Yay BUT keeping a deficit!
    You have to give your body fuel to keep working.

    Agree! :happy:
  • 81Katz
    81Katz Posts: 7,074 Member
    For now, I say YES - eat back some of them ... if you are hungry. Don't eat them just because you have them.

    I never thought about eating anything back after burning off the calories. This was before I joined MFP though. While I never entirely eat back all of my calories I have started to eat back some. I was really surprised once I started tracking food and exercise based on the calories they gave me to eat that after working out for the day I had a calorie deficit of anywhere from 700-900 calories. My reaction? WHOA!

    I am giving it a go of eating back some of them since I have had a major plateau since the beginning of January. I thought I was eating pretty good, working out like crazy and why I couldn't seem to lose! Now I think I need to feed my body more. I am hoping that's the case.
  • Yes but keep a deficit. If you do not eat enough calories and end up having a Net calorie of less than 1200 for the day you will go in starvation mode and gain weight. So eat the cals you burn.
  • WELL SAID!
  • neclar
    neclar Posts: 75 Member
    i'm pretty heavy so i don't eat them back.
    i do agree to eat them if your hungry and if not then don't
  • openskybeach
    openskybeach Posts: 294 Member
    YAY...... I used to be a nay sayer but as long as your calories are where you need them when you eat them back, you are good! I think it has also made it easier to stick with! :)
  • Yay and Nay. I wouldn't make it a habit to eat your calories burned as you won't lose weight. Being aware of what you're eating is the best too.So if you're planning a big night out or you just have to have pancakes one day DO IT and then exercise it off as best you can.
  • Tiggermummy
    Tiggermummy Posts: 312 Member
    yes
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