My husband is doing a juice fast. Help Needed!

NatalieWinning

It is just my opinion that you might want to think twice, or even 3X, about giving a person on a severely imbalanced diet an enema or "cleanse".

Shell2bthinme

Have him track body fat percent.

best answer
because he will notice for the next time that the best way to go is not starving.
Plus that it isn't about "toxins" it's about fat loss, and muscle mass building.
Sometimes they have to learn this the hard way. That there is no jump start. Just a start that keeps going.

For my husband anything I said didn't matter. He started tracking it himself, and now notices what is good and bad. He's not a middle of the road kind of guy, and he is all or nothing. So the numbers and food values on MFP actually made sense, and he's eating nutritionally for the first time. He's in control, he has charts and reports to track and fiddle with, so he's self driven on MFP. The numbers and goals make sense to him instead of "....Muwah wha wha ..." that he hears when I say it (like Charlie Brown listening to the teacher), or a parent telling him to eat broccoli. Instead he now looks for his "fiber" goal number and eats his broccoli. It would be great if you could get him on here and make him track it himself. That would mean you have to help him along at first with recipe database and serving size, or whatever, until he can do it all himself.

Thanks to this thread I just watched the documentary online very inspiring I am going to start fasting again

RightNowWellness

I juice for 3-5 days a month. If you add psyllium husk in a glass of water you will get the fiber you need. Every few days you can eat an egg or two for protein. It's a great way to get rid of the toxins your husband has built up. I wouldn't recommend it long term by itself. I drink juice every day in between my meals to get the nutritional value. Short term is completely healthy and needed to start getting a cleaner colon. Make sure he isn't doing a lot of extreme cardio during this process. Flushing toxins and low amounts of protein can exhaust him and make him feel light-headed.
Tell him congratulations on taking care of his health. Just be mindful. Good luck.

WeCallThemDayWalkers

If you don't agree and are worried for his well being, why are you enabling it by doing the work for him? This confuses me.

Because if I don't help him with it, he will still do it and I won't know for sure that he is getting in the required variety of juices.

Good answer!

laurenk182004

Hey everyone Just wanted to let those of you who gave me helpful replies know that my husband is doing great! He didn't wind up needing an enema or anything (thankfully) And is now "going" as he should lol Also he's down 15lbs and his joint pain has lessened, he's able to go for a 2 mile walk without pain, and his energy has increased. The only thing we are doing differently now is blending more whole fruits with the veggie juice Seems to have done the trick. Thankyou again for your helpful suggestions!

Lauren

tigersword

I juice for 3-5 days a month. If you add psyllium husk in a glass of water you will get the fiber you need. Every few days you can eat an egg or two for protein. It's a great way to get rid of the toxins your husband has built up. I wouldn't recommend it long term by itself. I drink juice every day in between my meals to get the nutritional value. Short term is completely healthy and needed to start getting a cleaner colon. Make sure he isn't doing a lot of extreme cardio during this process. Flushing toxins and low amounts of protein can exhaust him and make him feel light-headed.
Tell him congratulations on taking care of his health. Just be mindful. Good luck.

People throw around the word "toxins" when it comes to cleanses and fasts. Please, because I'd really, really love to know, exactly what are these mysterious toxins that you think are mysteriously hiding in the body that only these weird, useless fasts can get rid of?

RightNowWellness

Sorry I didn't see your post from the other day. These mysterious toxins start with actual **** that sits in your colon. While filling your colon with heavy fats, carbs, and some things that aren't even made for human consumption (Sucralose and others). So giving your colon a break- while filling it with nutrients so you don't starve- helps get rid of the sludge that causes many diseases.

In the fasting state, the body will scour for dead cells, damaged tissues, fatty deposits, tumors, abscesses, all of which are burned for fuel or expelled as waste. Those are all toxins in the body.*** Not so mysterious.
The elimination of these obstructions restores the immune system functionality and metabolic process to an optimum state. Fasting restores good digestion and the elimination action is quickened. Fasting allows a deep, physiological rest of the digestive organs, and the energy saved goes into self-healing and self-repairing. By eliminating obstructions, by cleansing, detoxification, and purifying the intestines, the blood, and the cells, we can overcome many of our physical ills or handicaps as well as getting a boost in energy. Fasting not only removes obstructions and helps the body to heal itself, it is also rejuvenating and life-extending. These resulting benefits can have lasting affects in your mental and emotional health.


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opivy

So what you're saying is, the enema does the cleaning, and then by not eating you let your digestive system rest? Your body still digests the juice though, it just doesn't have as much passing through.

I can understand the theory but I have yet to find any real evidence of this truly working. All said - if it gives someone the courage to get into a healthy lifestyle I am all for it.

Also, you don't have to fast to get the body to scour for these things, you need to exercise and require the body to use more than you're putting in.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/459588-30-day-juice-fast-for-weight-loss/

Interesting points but I have yet to find anything online outside of experts on message boards purporting toxin cleanses that believe a fast is healthy or beneficial to your long term health longer than 5 days.

kareinlib

Convincing him is futile? Augh! Try your hardest every day! The only real way to lose weight and keep it off is to watch what you eat and exercise, none of those diets or fasts end in healthy nor lasting results.

tigersword

Sorry I didn't see your post from the other day. These mysterious toxins start with actual **** that sits in your colon. While filling your colon with heavy fats, carbs, and some things that aren't even made for human consumption (Sucralose and others). So giving your colon a break- while filling it with nutrients so you don't starve- helps get rid of the sludge that causes many diseases.

In the fasting state, the body will scour for dead cells, damaged tissues, fatty deposits, tumors, abscesses, all of which are burned for fuel or expelled as waste. Those are all toxins in the body.*** Not so mysterious.
The elimination of these obstructions restores the immune system functionality and metabolic process to an optimum state. Fasting restores good digestion and the elimination action is quickened. Fasting allows a deep, physiological rest of the digestive organs, and the energy saved goes into self-healing and self-repairing. By eliminating obstructions, by cleansing, detoxification, and purifying the intestines, the blood, and the cells, we can overcome many of our physical ills or handicaps as well as getting a boost in energy. Fasting not only removes obstructions and helps the body to heal itself, it is also rejuvenating and life-extending. These resulting benefits can have lasting affects in your mental and emotional health.


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Um, no. There is absolutely nothing true in any of that.

Dave198lbs

In the fasting state, the body will scour for dead cells, damaged tissues, fatty deposits, tumors, abscesses, all of which are burned for fuel or expelled as waste. Those are all toxins in the body.*** Not so mysterious.

please dont tell me you actually believe this

what does the body "scour" with?

tigersword

jiva57

Suggestion: the mean green juice is one of the better balanced - uses a lot of kale (has protein content and calcium). Might want to research and try it: http://recipes.sparkpeople.com/recipe-detail.asp?recipe=1759308. I have done 10 days on this one myself for detox.

Rachelito

Did anyone notice this thread is 7 months old?

jiva57

Did anyone notice this thread is 7 months old?

and that was probably the most useful post today. =D

cuarrech

Um, no. There is absolutely nothing true in any of that.

Well, sort of. The, um.. "poetic" description may be off, but autophagy (literally self-eating) is real and does have a role in the body, and it is hypothesized that the mechanisms and reactions that occur in cells during autophagy may trigger apoptosis of many cancer cells as one of the ways in which frequent periods of autophagy reduces overall cancer risk. Cells also form sort-of balloons (autophagosomes) during autophagy where they dump a lot of excess matter (including glycated protein complexes and other damaged/useless molecules) and deliver them to lysosomes for destruction - and by doing so those excess and damaged molecules stop reacting with nearby molecules and causing minor havoc and accelerating aging. Autophagy in humans seems to be triggered by 500 calories or less, and/or very low protein (to a lesser degree if just protein restriction). But autophagy also = catabolism, and downsides begin to appear around 3-4 days in. It may be that it is worth it for some people in some health states to continue for a while, but I'm worried about muscle loss much beyond that in someone otherwise reasonably healthy.

Personally I find the real science fascinating. There's lots on google scholar about autophagy, its role in disease and fasting or intermittent fasting as a trigger. Honestly I think that is a mechanism behind why many different kinds of "cleanses" seem to help many people. I just wish there were more science on that, and less pawing in the dark.

byronguy74

What she said - I didnt understand a word of it but it sounded really good!

I know what worked for me, what kick started my weight loss, what brought down my blood pressure, cholesterol, triglycerides, and blood sugar. It certainly wasnt the burgers and pizza that I had eaten for years, it was the juice fast that I did at the beginning of the year and the change in eating habits that I have since then. Call it scouring, call it autophagocytosis, call it waving a dead chicken over the scales while chanting ancient voodoo spells and throwing magic pixie dust in the air, call it whatever you want - I know it has helped me and I know it can help others that are in the same situation as I was in.

skinnykeelin

I did a juice fast for 23 days last summer. I had few bowel movements. Remember you aren't taking in much fiber. My skin felt great, my hair and nails were stronger and shiny. I'd do it again if i could get the willpower up. As long as he is juicing mostly veggies with fruit added for taste he should be fine. He will be sick if he is drinking store bought juice or only fruit. The ratio should be 80% veggie to 20% fruit. Eat some veggie sticks to curb hunger. It will get the bowel moving and fill him up without breaking the fast.

Jester522

OK wait, first of all you can' be "fasting" if you're drinking juice. Fasting means NO calorie consumption. If you're drinking juice you're still in a fed state.

runfreddyrun

EDIT - whoops, didn't realize this thread was super old.

Jester522

EDIT - whoops, didn't realize this thread was super old.

Oh wow neither did I. Ignored.

mannyfresh79

It's poopie time!

Ludka13

He should be having BMs. Even if you only drink water you have BMs because your intestinal lining sheds. Not dramatically, just part of the normal turnover and renewal. He can try taking a fiber supplement like psyllium to help him along.

WalkingAlong

2+ years later, I'm pretty sure he's not still juicing and constipated.