Diet Soda Warnings
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I was reading health news on msn.com and came across this. Thought I would share it with you all.
Here is the link if you would rather see it there than the copy and paste of the article I put here.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46431225/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/
Diet soda may benefit the waistline, but a new study suggests that people who drink it every day have a heightened risk of heart attack and stroke.
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The study, which followed almost 2,600 older adults for a decade, found that those who drank diet soda every day were 44 percent more likely than non-drinkers to suffer a heart attack or stroke.
The findings, reported in the Journal of General Internal Medicine, don't prove that the sugar-free drinks are actually to blame.
There may be other things about diet-soda lovers that explain the connection, researchers say.
"What we saw was an association," said lead researcher Hannah Gardener, of the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine. "These people may tend to have more unhealthy habits."
She and her colleagues tried to account for that, Gardener told Reuters Health.
Daily diet-soda drinkers did tend to be heavier and more often have heart risk factors like high blood pressure, diabetes and unhealthy cholesterol levels.
That all suggests that people who were trying to shed pounds or manage existing health problems often opted for a diet soda over the sugar-laden variety.
But even after the researchers factored in those differences -- along with people's reported diet and exercise habits -- they found that daily diet soda was linked to a 44-percent higher chance of heart attack or stroke.
Nevertheless, Gardener said, it's impossible for a study to capture all the variables that could be at work.
The findings do build on a few recent studies that also found diet-soda drinkers are more likely to have certain cardiovascular risk factors, like high blood pressure or high blood sugar.
This is the first study, Gardener said, to look at actual "vascular events" -- that is, heart attacks, strokes and deaths from cardiovascular causes.
The findings are based on 2,564 New York City adults who were 69 years old, on average, at the outset. Over the next decade, 591 men and women had a heart attack, stroke or died of cardiovascular causes.
That included 31 percent of the 163 people who were daily diet-soda drinkers at the study's start. In contrast, 22 percent of people who rarely or never drank diet soda went on to have a heart attack or stroke.
There was no increased risk linked to less-than-daily consumption. Nor was regular soda tied to heart attacks and strokes.
If diet soda, itself, somehow contributes to health risks, it's not clear how, Gardener said.
There's research in rats suggesting that artificial sweeteners can end up boosting food intake and weight. But whether results in rodents translate to humans is unknown.
"I don't think people should change their behavior based on this study," Gardener said. "And I wouldn't advocate drinking regular soda instead."
Regular soda is high in calories, and for people who need to shed pounds, experts often suggest swapping regular soda for the diet version.
A study out this month found that the advice may be sound. Obese people who were randomly assigned to drink water or diet drinks in place of sugary ones lost about five pounds over six months.
Gardener said that further studies such as hers are still needed to confirm a connection between diet soda and cardiovascular trouble.
Ultimately, she noted, clinical trials are considered the "gold standard" for proving cause-and-effect. That would mean randomly assigning people to drink diet soda or not, and then following them over time to see if there were differences in their rates of heart problems or stroke.
A study like that, Gardener said, would be "difficult and costly" -- since it would have to follow large groups of people over many years, and rely on people to stick with their assigned beverages.
Copyright 2012 Thomson Reuters. Click for restrictions.
Here is the link if you would rather see it there than the copy and paste of the article I put here.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46431225/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/
Diet soda may benefit the waistline, but a new study suggests that people who drink it every day have a heightened risk of heart attack and stroke.
.
The study, which followed almost 2,600 older adults for a decade, found that those who drank diet soda every day were 44 percent more likely than non-drinkers to suffer a heart attack or stroke.
The findings, reported in the Journal of General Internal Medicine, don't prove that the sugar-free drinks are actually to blame.
There may be other things about diet-soda lovers that explain the connection, researchers say.
"What we saw was an association," said lead researcher Hannah Gardener, of the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine. "These people may tend to have more unhealthy habits."
She and her colleagues tried to account for that, Gardener told Reuters Health.
Daily diet-soda drinkers did tend to be heavier and more often have heart risk factors like high blood pressure, diabetes and unhealthy cholesterol levels.
That all suggests that people who were trying to shed pounds or manage existing health problems often opted for a diet soda over the sugar-laden variety.
But even after the researchers factored in those differences -- along with people's reported diet and exercise habits -- they found that daily diet soda was linked to a 44-percent higher chance of heart attack or stroke.
Nevertheless, Gardener said, it's impossible for a study to capture all the variables that could be at work.
The findings do build on a few recent studies that also found diet-soda drinkers are more likely to have certain cardiovascular risk factors, like high blood pressure or high blood sugar.
This is the first study, Gardener said, to look at actual "vascular events" -- that is, heart attacks, strokes and deaths from cardiovascular causes.
The findings are based on 2,564 New York City adults who were 69 years old, on average, at the outset. Over the next decade, 591 men and women had a heart attack, stroke or died of cardiovascular causes.
That included 31 percent of the 163 people who were daily diet-soda drinkers at the study's start. In contrast, 22 percent of people who rarely or never drank diet soda went on to have a heart attack or stroke.
There was no increased risk linked to less-than-daily consumption. Nor was regular soda tied to heart attacks and strokes.
If diet soda, itself, somehow contributes to health risks, it's not clear how, Gardener said.
There's research in rats suggesting that artificial sweeteners can end up boosting food intake and weight. But whether results in rodents translate to humans is unknown.
"I don't think people should change their behavior based on this study," Gardener said. "And I wouldn't advocate drinking regular soda instead."
Regular soda is high in calories, and for people who need to shed pounds, experts often suggest swapping regular soda for the diet version.
A study out this month found that the advice may be sound. Obese people who were randomly assigned to drink water or diet drinks in place of sugary ones lost about five pounds over six months.
Gardener said that further studies such as hers are still needed to confirm a connection between diet soda and cardiovascular trouble.
Ultimately, she noted, clinical trials are considered the "gold standard" for proving cause-and-effect. That would mean randomly assigning people to drink diet soda or not, and then following them over time to see if there were differences in their rates of heart problems or stroke.
A study like that, Gardener said, would be "difficult and costly" -- since it would have to follow large groups of people over many years, and rely on people to stick with their assigned beverages.
Copyright 2012 Thomson Reuters. Click for restrictions.
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"I don't think people should change their behavior based on this study," Gardener said.
that's what i took from it............0 -
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"I don't think people should change their behavior based on this study," Gardener said.
that's what i took from it............
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Please see:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/496166-how-bad-is-diet-coke-for-me
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/496173-drinking-cola-etc-makes-a-good-diet-futile
For my thoughts on diet coke/diet soda/aspartame. I am lazy and don't want to repeat myself for the third time today.
Assuming you care what I think
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"I don't think people should change their behavior based on this study," Gardener said.
that's what i took from it............
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Basically this found that people who drank diet soda had other unhealthy behaviors. I think people do this because they justify eating more because they had a zero calorie drink.
Since we're all on MFP keeping track of our habits anyway, I think it's safe to say we're doing just fine.0 -
I don't drink alcohol, full sugar pop, coffee, or smoke. I quite enjoy my diet pop and I think it's less of a risk than all of the above.0
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The findings, reported in the Journal of General Internal Medicine, don't prove that the sugar-free drinks are actually to blame.
There may be other things about diet-soda lovers that explain the connection, researchers say.
"What we saw was an association," said lead researcher Hannah Gardener, of the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine. "These people may tend to have more unhealthy habits."
so......it's being fat that harms you. Glad they spent money to research that..........0 -
So, it's fine. Good to know!0
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Soda in general is bad for you; crazy amount of sugar and carbs.0
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Hold on a second while I finish off this 24 oz. Bottle of diet pepsi................................ Ahhh.....there.... :yawn:0
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Soda in general is bad for you; crazy amount of sugar and carbs.
post was about diet soda, which has no sugar, and no carbs, and no calories0 -
Diet soda is cool though. I wouldn't replace water with diet soda, but I'm not going to deny myself a coke zero.Soda in general is bad for you; crazy amount of sugar and carbs.0 -
My mom's best friend drank those diet sodas for 35 years. She was there from the time I was a toddler and she helped raise me. About 6 years ago she started showing signs of dementia--in her mid 50s-- and now she has full-blown Alzheimer's. The doctor said it was from 35 years of daily aspartame consumption. She weighs about 80 pounds now and doesn't recognize me, my mother, her children, or her grandkids. You don't have to believe me, but this is reality for us.
Please don't drink those awful things. I'm not interested in my friends' waistlines. I'd rather they were able to grow old with me.0 -
aspartame did hideous things to my body; hot flashes, sleep deprivation and a host of other delightful symptoms - so I quit. I feel much better...however, once in awhile, I'll still have a diet pepsi - but it's the exception now, not the rule.
But - each to his/her own!0 -
With several other medical opinions. Mainly that aspartame is a neurotoxin.0
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My mom's best friend drank those diet sodas for 35 years. She was there from the time I was a toddler and she helped raise me. About 6 years ago she started showing signs of dementia--in her mid 50s-- and now she has full-blown Alzheimer's. The doctor said it was from 35 years of daily aspartame consumption. She weighs about 80 pounds now and doesn't recognize me, my mother, her children, or her grandkids. You don't have to believe me, but this is reality for us.
Please don't drink those awful things. I'm not interested in my friends' waistlines. I'd rather they were able to grow old with me.
I'm terribly sorry for your mother's friend, but the causes of Alzheimer's are not yet known. I don't think it is responsible for a doctor to claim that aspartame caused this horrible disease when nothing has been proven.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/alzheimers-disease/DS00161/DSECTION=causes0 -
Well diet coke is best choice. because what is there asides from that? 2$ bottle of water?
They dont even sell fresh lemon tea in there....
I could sell fresh lemon tea for 1$ for big cup and still make alot of profit off that, probably could live off that by selling it in high volume. seriously
those fast food restaurants need to rethink their beverage selection0 -
My mom's best friend drank those diet sodas for 35 years. She was there from the time I was a toddler and she helped raise me. About 6 years ago she started showing signs of dementia--in her mid 50s-- and now she has full-blown Alzheimer's. The doctor said it was from 35 years of daily aspartame consumption. She weighs about 80 pounds now and doesn't recognize me, my mother, her children, or her grandkids. You don't have to believe me, but this is reality for us.
Please don't drink those awful things. I'm not interested in my friends' waistlines. I'd rather they were able to grow old with me.
Her doctor is an idiot.
How, pray tell, did he isolate aspartame as the causal link?
I don't usually call MDs 'idiots' but in this case, I agree.
As an expert in neuron cell death, I can say absolutely that there is no definitive link between aspartame consumption and Alzheimer's disease.
For heaven's sake, the disease is devastating enough. Let's try not to blame the patient for causing her misery when there's absolutely no reason to think she did anything wrong.
And aspartame is only a neurotoxin if you drill a hole in your head and insert the stuff directly into the brain. Otherwise, it does not cross the blood brain barrier.0 -
Aspartame is a poison. Research it. I would never touch a diet soda (or anything w/nutrasweet in it).0
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i have to agree with Ron and Contra ,, my mother currently has Ahlzeimers and never drank alcohol , smoked or drank diet pop in her life . .was a reg nurse for over 38 yrs ,, it is un known the actual causes ,, could be "predisposed" as she is first to have in family .. for a Dr to say she has it due to any one particular reason?? is misleading to say the least ..0
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The doctor said it was from 35 years of daily aspartame consumption.
It was irresponsible of the physician to tell you that, as there is no known cause of Alzheimer's.0 -
Good (and scary) documentary about aspartame:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWVxpeieqdw 0 -
So aspartame is fine for your brain? Since you're an expert in neuron cell death, does she have other options? Has she been misdiagnosed? Because we'd like her back.0
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A study based on 69 year olds? fact one older adults are more susceptible to vascular conditions, fact 2 a 69year old would have more than likely smoked before the warning, been exposed to lead pain, building materials and chemicals that we now have bans on, their mother would have more than likely smoke and drank through out their pregnancy because they knew better!
In moderation diet soda is ok! I would never reccomend drinking litres a day! the only thing you should drink litres a day of is water!0 -
My mom's best friend drank those diet sodas for 35 years. She was there from the time I was a toddler and she helped raise me. About 6 years ago she started showing signs of dementia--in her mid 50s-- and now she has full-blown Alzheimer's. The doctor said it was from 35 years of daily aspartame consumption. She weighs about 80 pounds now and doesn't recognize me, my mother, her children, or her grandkids. You don't have to believe me, but this is reality for us.
Please don't drink those awful things. I'm not interested in my friends' waistlines. I'd rather they were able to grow old with me.
I watch my grandma go from a healthy vibrant woman to not knowing any of us at end not even her own son (my father) then 10 years later I went through the same exact thing with my father...Its a hard think to swallow when your own father doesn't even remember you.... neither of them drank a single bottle of soda in all their years..... Alzheimer's can be contracted from nothing more than genetic's... It runs in my family so I am not to going to lose any sleep over me drinking a diet pepsi.......0 -
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I think alzeimers can be linked to soft drinks in aluminum can because
aluminum causes alzeimers
thats what i think.0 -
With several other medical opinions. Mainly that aspartame is a neurotoxin.
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http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10408440701516184
http://journal.nzma.org.nz/journal/123-1311/4024/0 -
Thanks, Ron. I'll be sure to laugh at your questions and offer you statistics when someone you love is dying and you can't do anything to help.0
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sadly there is no know cause for dementia, as a mental health nurse it breaks my heart to see people with this distress condition. I wish I could tell you the cause and treatment or any miricale for it, Its sad to see your family member/friend/ loved one go through this.
But I think its irresponsible for any practioner to solely blame it on one thing, at this point in time we know possible contributors and that there is some genetic link but one can no pin point one thing, I'm sorry but having something to blame makes you feel better but not your loved one.0
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