lets ban light house cleaning from mfp
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I've even seen "taking a shower" as calories burned! Really?
You can burn calories in the shower................................
It's one of my favorite places to, um, burn . . . yeah0 -
In seriousness, I do get a little concerned when I see people logging all their daily house cleaning and food preparation because I think MFP overestimates calories burned and sometimes it seems like they're doing it to earn calories to eat. So I worry about how that will effect their weight loss.
That being said, cleaning can burn a lot of calories and it's definitely not my place to tell people what they can and cannot log. Banning it? Give me a break. You don't need to police someone else's journal like that. Mind your own health and fitness unless you are specifically asked for advice. But don't try to ban things like that because you don't think it's enough. Don't think it really counts? Good, don't log it yourself. Problem solved!
Although I do log house cleaning, I go by my heart rate, not by MFP's estimates, as they are usually higher.0 -
I totally log my cleaning! I do it all day with two kids. Im constantly picking things up mopping things, sweeping and vacuming crumbs. There is no way in H**l I wont log those0
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PERFECT! LOL...0
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Lets all worry about what WE personally do instead of judging others. If you want to log cleaning- that is okay with me!! I try not and stress about others which allows me to be successful in my own journey. I'm sick of the judging, MFP is for support and if that is a workout to someone, then that is their choice. I thankfully have fully supportive peers on this fabulous website who have never judged me because I have logged cleaning a few times. :flowerforyou:0
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Have you ever tried to climb the steps of a lighthouse? Not even thinking about mopping each step as you go and scrubbing the walls! Anyone who has committed to lighthouse cleaning has undertaken a serious task and you should be ashamed for making...er...light of their work!
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I realize that while you may believe that light house cleaning is not exercise for you, it IS for some people. 1,000 lb people use hand weights to exercise while they are confined to bed! It's none of your business what they log for exercise. It does not apply to you and if you don't like it, don't look at it! They are here for themselves and if any of my friends log cleaning as exercise, I shall cheer them on if they weigh 1,000lbs or 110! Perhaps a little encouragement will get them to push themselves instead of being put down by people like you. Be nice! That is all.0
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Wow, I bet it's fun to be YOUR friend. WTF do you care what someone else considers exercise? Frankly I NEVER clean my own house, I pay someone to do it. So those rare times when I do a deep clean I have worn my HRM and I do break a sweat. Of course I'm a fat@ss so what's strenuous and burns calories for me probably wouldn't do a thing for someone as fit and awesome as yourself.
It's actually quite fun being his friend
I see his point and I see yours also. The bigger problem is the fact you got so worked up over a silly post
Also light housecleaning does not do anything calories burned wise bc if it had I would be in great shape because I clean a mean house DAILY!
So if I run 5 miles a day a shouldn't count that as exercise? Great logic.
Seriously what does running 5 miles a day have anything to do with cleaning? Two VERY different things
As far as logging it goes there's no way someone should look at that and feel accomplished at the end of my day I like to look back and know I've pushing past boundaries. Ppl taking the easy way [which aren't always people that are so big they can't work out] are the main ones complaining that they haven't lost weight. Push yourself people
I do push myself, every week. I don't log cleaning as exercise, though I HAVE racked up some serious calorie burns gardening and other such nonsense. My POINT was that when people post such condescending, judgmental topics it could be very disheartening to someone who felt a sense of accomplishment for doing something outside their comfort zone.
If the OP has a particular person he has an issue with, take it up with them privately. Posting in public like this isn't the way considering the vast spectrum of diverse people that might be reading this.
It isn't the topic per se that set me off, it's the principle behind it, the tone and the venue that was chosen.0 -
here OP...take this pill...
it's part of the "get over yourself" diet.0 -
Three cheers for reviewing the original post, then giggling and clicking on the last page of replies to see how ridiculous the conversation has gotten. :drinker:
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Burning calories is burning calories. For some, it's very helpful and motivational to be able to see that even everyday activities like light housecleaning are still better than sitting around doing nothing. Knowledge is power.
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You never truly know another person's story. Remember this.0
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Does it make you feel better to belittle others? Just because your opinion differs from that of others, doesn't make yours right. If it irks you this badly that one of your "friends" logs this, then just remove them from your list. SMH0
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not peeing on anyones bonfire but you can actually burn up to 200kcal by taking a cold shower for 3 minutes :-)0
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why is it always a man on here trying to say cleaning isn't work/worth logging?? hmmmm
Because 99.9% of the male population has never picked up a broom in their life. The other .1% are single fathers [mommy & daddy]0 -
Besides, in my opinion... calories out are calories out... whether it's standing when you could be sitting, cleaning when you could be sitting, or running a marathon when you could be sitting...0
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Jeez...if we are going to ban light house cleaning then we should ban sitting on your butt reading other peoples workouts & gossiping about it on the message boards! lol Leave people to figure out their weight loss on their own...just worry about your own and all will be fine
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Shall we also dictate what other people do, and make them feel rubbish for making a positive change in their life?
Today I spent three hours fixing my car, fixing my parents' car and then cleaning my car inside and out... I added it as '1 hour, light effort', but I sure as Hell burnt more calories than that. I didn't stop for one minute to think people might be judging me!
Maybe you should spend less time speculating about what other people are doing and more time focusing on your own goals.0 -
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Burning calories is burning calories. For some, it's very helpful and motivational to be able to see that even everyday activities like light housecleaning are still better than sitting around doing nothing. Knowledge is power.
Agreed!! Especially for those who may have some type of disability and cannot workout in the traditional sense; these small activities may be the only "exercise" they can achieve so why not let those activities count?? All is fair and no holds barred in tracking calories burned!! A calorie burned is a calorie burned no matter the method! :happy:
Even better, instead of "letting them count" how about we acknowledge that they actually DO count?!?
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Lets ban the slow walking then too.. because people are lazy, and you walk everyday.. so why should you get to log that? omg are you serious? There are ALOT of people that don't ever HAVE to clean so someone that does that on a daily basis, get's that little extra calorie burn than people who don't ever have to clean don't. Your not the MFP God that gets to decide who can log what. If they put it in the database... then obviously it's there for a reason. It's not your job to "HELP OTHERS HELP THEMSELVES" by criticizing what they log!0
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Have you ever tried to climb the steps of a lighthouse? Not even thinking about mopping each step as you go and scrubbing the walls! Anyone who has committed to lighthouse cleaning has undertaken a serious task and you should be ashamed for making...er...light of their work!
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here OP...take this pill...
it's part of the "get over yourself" diet.
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How many calories can I burn for being judgmental?
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I disagree with banning it, BUT I get the OP's point. When people log every little thing they do, rack up a big calorie deficit, eat their calories back, and then are disappointed that they aren't losing, and then they ask for input on their diary. It's hard to say to someone, stop logging every time you stand up.
I understand why people over-log, though, because I did it when I first joined MFP. It's just cool to see how much energy I expend in a day. It makes me feel productive. However, the way I look at it, if it was something I was already doing when I was "fat," it isn't going to help me lose weight. I need to log only the activity that goes beyond what I was already doing as a normal part of my life. If i was already vacuuming a few times week when I was fat, those calories don't go in. Otherwise, I'll never create the calorie deficits I need.
Maybe we just need one really good, pinned thread that explains this so that when the question comes up, "Why am I not losing weight when I expend 4000 calories a day breathing and walking to the bathroom?" we can refer people to it. Probably not worth banning it, though.0 -
why is it always a man on here trying to say cleaning isn't work/worth logging?? hmmmm
Because 99.9% of the male population has never picked up a broom in their life. The other .1% are single fathers [mommy & daddy]
yes that was the point I was inadvertently making. I always want to ask, have you ever cleaned a bathroom top to bottom? toilet, tub, sink, floors? baseboards? If not (and probably not) shut the hell up.
That being said I don't log cleaning but it can be a workout. I realize he is speaking of light cleaning. But my point still being made, it's always a man complaining about people who log cleaning.0 -
Think of a person that may be disabled in some way and cannot go and run or lift weights. If that is the exercise they can do, then they should have every right to log it. It is also a motivator for people to just get up and get moving, myself included. Plus, honestly, it does burn quite a bit of calories, especially vacuuming. I can't find it, but there was a Blog post about how vacuuming and running for a similar amount of time burn similar calories (HRM on).0
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When I first started here, I was over 400 lbs, and "light house cleaning" left me in a sweat with back pain so severe I could cry. It's not about whether or not it's work for YOU, it's about whether or not it's work for the person doing it. I know you think you were being funny, but really, you were belittling and ridiculing the efforts of others. I don't enter "light house cleaning" anymore unless I've gone on an hour-long sweeping, mopping, and vacuuming binge that leaves me sweating. Otherwise, that's not exercise for ME anymore. But it is for someone, and I'm not about to giggle at them and tell them that their efforts aren't worthy of consideration.
You should try that.
This. A hundred thousand ga-jillion times, this.0 -
What if you're not alone in the shower but didn't want to post what you were actually doing in there?
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I don't clean my apartment, ever. I pay someone to come in once a week and do that for me, I call it my "mental health extravagance" so if, for some horrific reason, I did actually have to vacuum or, Heaven forbid, clean the bath, I'd strap on that damn HRM and log it.0
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