Can't we all just get along?
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OP here. Just to clarify, I realize that the world will never get along. I'm from Boston - we aren't known for being nice people lol.
Also, I wasn't attempting to promote world peace (I'm a defense contractor, so that means I'd be out of a job), so there is no need for the Sociology 101 responses about human nature and how people behave when shielded with the anonymity of the internet.
But this isn't Red Sox/Yankees - this is health and wellness. I'm also a member of other forums and do agree that this is pretty tame.
Regardless, thanks for the responses and private messages. My ego has been sufficiently stroked for the evening
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I will agree to be nicer if MFP as a whole can agree to stop using the word "haters".
Seriously. It has gone the road of 'you go girl' and 'gag me with a spoon'.
Lets put that b1tch to bed already.
Edited because I have fully agreed to stop using the term *kitten* to get around the sensors.0 -
I will agree to be nicer if MFP as a whole can agree to stop using the word "haters".
Seriously. It has gone the road of 'you go girl' and 'gag me with a spoon'.
Lets put that *kitten* to bed already.
Also, let's all stop saying "*kitten*". 0 -
Calling someone "hun" is pretty passive aggressive.
In my part of the world 'hun' or 'love' (and even 'pet' and 'duck') are common endearments used all the time and certainly not in a passive aggressive way. If you walked into a shop or bar in my area you'd be greeted with "what'll be love"0 -
I will agree to be nicer if MFP as a whole can agree to stop using the word "haters".
Seriously. It has gone the road of 'you go girl' and 'gag me with a spoon'.
Lets put that *kitten* to bed already.
Ba ha!0 -
Just a friendly FYI, there is no metabolic advantage to low carb or keto diets
Pardon my lack of knowledge but what is a Paleo or a Keto diet?
Also, I agree 100% with the OP, people need to learn how to tolerate one another, they don't necessarily need to like one another as people have their own likes and dislikes... I always try my damnedest to please everyone I can, it's just my nature, though it isn't possible to do that! That's where toleration comes in, even though as stated some people can't get along, it's nicer to tolerate than it is to shove trash in peoples faces...
I personally can't see why people have to go down the route of "my diet is better than yours" etc, though as said already, it does and will continue to happen regardless of what we try to say and do. All I can say on it is that I wish they would put their efforts into helping instead of trying to put people down?
--Lee
PS; The comments on this aren't aimed at your Acg67
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I love being positive and encouraging; however, if someone is asking for opinions and is doing something unhealthy or extreme just to lose a few pounds, I am going to give them my opinion.
Whether they listen or not is up to them, but if they post in a public forum, the public will provide their opinions.
In my opinion, eating nutritious, well-balanced meals and snacks, drinking plenty of water, exercising regularly, and focusing first and foremost on your HEALTH is the ideal way to reach whatever goals you are aiming for.
Do people HAVE to do things my way?
No.
Do I advise people who ask for opinions that this is the way I like?
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People are not homogeneous, physically, culturally, spiritually, nor in ideas. They never should be. Therefore you will always find disagreement, online or in the real world. By the time you are an adult I would expect most people to realize this and react accordingly.
Instead we get an incessant stream of "why can't we all get along" threads. Clearly I set the bar too high.
I know I have nice skin and a pretty smile, but don't assume I'm not an adult hun
Calling someone "hun" is pretty passive aggressive. I'm not even going to comment on your self absorbed statement.
yeh, I read that calling you Hun and thought the same.0 -
I'm sure it does, but no reason to make silly claims about it then
I see no 'silly claims', I see someone who has stated what works for them. His way of eating is clearly of no interest to you, so why waste energy and time being concerned about it?0 -
In any event, I am a Paleo eater who monitors his carb intake (I do 2 month cycles of Ketosis and love the fat-burning and muscle-sparing effects). It works for me, but I'll never try to force Paleo propaganda down somebody else's throat unless they reach out to me and ask about it.
Just a friendly FYI, there is no metabolic advantage to low carb or keto diets
Are you trying to argue??!!0 -
Just a friendly FYI, there is no metabolic advantage to low carb or keto diets
It works for him and I'm sure that's all that concerns him.
I'm sure it does, but no reason to make silly claims about it then
Here's a fun story bro.
When I was getting back into strength training after taking a long hiatus, I started with a Keto diet (20 net carbs per day), and lost 20 pounds (that I shouldn't have had anyways, but that's another convo). I wasn't restricting calories or doing cardio at all.
I also wasn't smoking meth and didn't adopt an eating disorder.
It worked for me. I did lose some strength (which is to be expected with Keto), but I'm at an age where my max bench isn't a concern.
Just don't say I was claiming anything or call me silly. It worked for me, despite me not having a MySpace picture for my avatar (just kidding bro, take it easy).0 -
I would if they would let me use the real word. :sad:I will agree to be nicer if MFP as a whole can agree to stop using the word "haters".
Seriously. It has gone the road of 'you go girl' and 'gag me with a spoon'.
Lets put that *kitten* to bed already.
Also, let's all stop saying "*kitten*".0 -
I would if they would let me use the real word. :sad:I will agree to be nicer if MFP as a whole can agree to stop using the word "haters".
Seriously. It has gone the road of 'you go girl' and 'gag me with a spoon'.
Lets put that *kitten* to bed already.
Also, let's all stop saying "*kitten*".
Yeah. They don't want us to be happy.
Also, can everyone just stop nitpicking and missing the entire point of this thread, please? Please? I will give you $5*.
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Well said, sometimes it puts me right off the forums when people can be so b*tchy!!!0
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Also, let's all stop saying "*kitten*".People are not homogeneous, physically, culturally, spiritually, nor in ideas. They never should be. Therefore you will always find disagreement, online or in the real world. By the time you are an adult I would expect most people to realize this and react accordingly.
Instead we get an incessant stream of "why can't we all get along" threads. Clearly I set the bar too high.
I would if they would let me use the real word.
I love my friends. Love. Them.
To pieces.0 -
Also, can everyone just stop nitpicking and missing the entire point of this thread, please?
BINGO.
In other news, it's Saturday. Let's enjoy the weekend. Have a great night everyone, thanks to those who responded, regardless of whether I agreed or not.0 -
Thanks..... well put..... and cheers...:)0
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Just a friendly FYI, there is no metabolic advantage to low carb or keto diets
It works for him and I'm sure that's all that concerns him.
I'm sure it does, but no reason to make silly claims about it then
Here's a fun story bro.
When I was getting back into strength training after taking a long hiatus, I started with a Keto diet (20 net carbs per day), and lost 20 pounds (that I shouldn't have had anyways, but that's another convo). I wasn't restricting calories or doing cardio at all.
I also wasn't smoking meth and didn't adopt an eating disorder.
It worked for me. I did lose some strength (which is to be expected with Keto), but I'm at an age where my max bench isn't a concern.
Just don't say I was claiming anything or call me silly. It worked for me, despite me not having a MySpace picture for my avatar (just kidding bro, take it easy).
Just tried to to let you know that low carb diets have to metabolic advantage and to realize that fat loss on keto or low carb compared to another diet (holding cals and protein constant) there won't be a significant, if any difference in fat loss0 -
Can anyone help me a bit with understanding the differences in the US, where most members seem to come from? I sort of knew that obesity is a bigger (sorry; LOL) problem in the US than most places in Europe, and I'm certainly much too fat myself so I don't mean to be at all judgemental. I'm just curious, having noticed that many US members want to lose a lot of weight, and/or have done so but are on a second go-round. Maybe this ought to be a different topic, and perhaps it already has been - I'm quite new. I did wonder whether particular US dietary issues cause some extra fustration which comes out as anger and judgementalism in posts?0
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Americans tend to be more sedentary on average and consume more calories.Can anyone help me a bit with understanding the differences in the US, where most members seem to come from? I sort of knew that obesity is a bigger (sorry; LOL) problem in the US than most places in Europe, and I'm certainly much too fat myself so I don't mean to be at all judgemental. I'm just curious, having noticed that many US members want to lose a lot of weight, and/or have done so but are on a second go-round. Maybe this ought to be a different topic, and perhaps it already has been - I'm quite new. I did wonder whether particular US dietary issues cause some extra fustration which comes out as anger and judgementalism in posts?
We are a culture that tends to gravitate towards what is convenient.
That being said, I'm an American who shed a ton of weight and is never putting it back on. It's challenging, but I don't imagine it is all that different from what people in any other (developed) country would encounter.0 -
People are not homogeneous, physically, culturally, spiritually, nor in ideas. They never should be. Therefore you will always find disagreement, online or in the real world. By the time you are an adult I would expect most people to realize this and react accordingly.
Instead we get an incessant stream of "why can't we all get along" threads. Clearly I set the bar too high.
I know I have nice skin and a pretty smile, but don't assume I'm not an adult hun
Calling someone "hun" is pretty passive aggressive. I'm not even going to comment on your self absorbed statement.
yeh, I read that calling you Hun and thought the same.
dont you have some laundry to fold?... jk 0 -
Just a friendly FYI, there is no metabolic advantage to low carb or keto diets
It works for him and I'm sure that's all that concerns him.
I'm sure it does, but no reason to make silly claims about it then
Here's a fun story bro.
When I was getting back into strength training after taking a long hiatus, I started with a Keto diet (20 net carbs per day), and lost 20 pounds (that I shouldn't have had anyways, but that's another convo). I wasn't restricting calories or doing cardio at all.
I also wasn't smoking meth and didn't adopt an eating disorder.
It worked for me. I did lose some strength (which is to be expected with Keto), but I'm at an age where my max bench isn't a concern.
Just don't say I was claiming anything or call me silly. It worked for me, despite me not having a MySpace picture for my avatar (just kidding bro, take it easy).
Just tried to to let you know that low carb diets have to metabolic advantage and to realize that fat loss on keto or low carb compared to another diet (holding cals and protein constant) there won't be a significant, if any difference in fat loss
I was just busting your chops man. I love House by the way - so I LOL'd at the pic. What you're doing is working for you, just like my diet is too. I agree, people have just as much success with carb-based diets when they restrict cals and add cardio to their routine. I just happen to like this diet, and I can sustain it long term (and have). My favorite benefit to being on a carb-restricted diet is that I'm getting plenty of protein, so instead of spending money on Muscle Milk, I'm spending it on filet mignon (grilling one now - time to go eat).0 -
I completely agree. What works for ME - may or may not work for you. While we all have the same stuff on the inside, it does work differently.. if it all worked the same, we could all do the same thing and we'd all be thin, fit and healthy!
I personally don't have to watch anymore than calories - carbs, sodium, etc doesn't phase me. I know what I can eat, how much I can eat and maintain my weight. I eat a lot in a day (around 2500 NET calories) and I do just fine. I know what works for me and I do it. I have been told by MANY people on this site that I'm doing it "wrong". That if I don't do this or that, I'll get fat again. Um. Okay. I've been doing it for awhile now.. I know what I'm doing, thanks.
Do what works for YOU.0 -
Ha! I just found an advantage to being sooooooooo overweight.. I can try all the diets on here a month at a time..
seriously... stress makes me hungry. y'all stress me out when you bicker. Just talk like Mr. Rogers and I'll be okay and thank you for caring in advance.
nah, you can bicker... I'll just search for the old(er) people threads, we have to conserve our energy!!!
just a passing thought tho... since we're all gonna DIE...does it matter "how" that much? I've learned from the message boards that I'm gonna croak from all sorts of stuff.... even SOY BEANS... they looked so harmless... evil little beasts! If I would have known that before now, I would have at least rolled em and smoked em! so I could look cool :smokin:
now since you are probably gonna blast me and that's probably gonna make me hungry.... I'm running away!!!)) moving to another country and changing my profile... okay... I'll just put sunglasses on my own profile...
I wish I was snoopy.. he never had these problems!0 -
Americans tend to be more sedentary on average and consume more calories.Can anyone help me a bit with understanding the differences in the US, where most members seem to come from? I sort of knew that obesity is a bigger (sorry; LOL) problem in the US than most places in Europe, and I'm certainly much too fat myself so I don't mean to be at all judgemental. I'm just curious, having noticed that many US members want to lose a lot of weight, and/or have done so but are on a second go-round. Maybe this ought to be a different topic, and perhaps it already has been - I'm quite new. I did wonder whether particular US dietary issues cause some extra fustration which comes out as anger and judgementalism in posts?
We are a culture that tends to gravitate towards what is convenient.
That being said, I'm an American who shed a ton of weight and is never putting it back on. It's challenging, but I don't imagine it is all that different from what people in any other (developed) country would encounter.
Actually, obesity is not a bigger problem in the US than most places in Europe. According to a study released in 2007 by the German Government, Germany has the highest rate of obesity in Europe, the same rate as that of the United States. The study also found that other countries, including the United Kingdom, Greece and some Eastern European countries have an even higher rate of "morbidly obese" than Germany. If you want to read a synopsis of the study, check out Spiegel online, first quarter of 2007. I don't recall the exact publication date. I remember the study because a cousin called me from Munich moaning about how awful it was to be "as fat as an American tourist!!"
Regardless, being fit and healthy is "borderless." Best wishes to you in your effort!0 -
Americans tend to be more sedentary on average and consume more calories.Can anyone help me a bit with understanding the differences in the US, where most members seem to come from? I sort of knew that obesity is a bigger (sorry; LOL) problem in the US than most places in Europe, and I'm certainly much too fat myself so I don't mean to be at all judgemental. I'm just curious, having noticed that many US members want to lose a lot of weight, and/or have done so but are on a second go-round. Maybe this ought to be a different topic, and perhaps it already has been - I'm quite new. I did wonder whether particular US dietary issues cause some extra fustration which comes out as anger and judgementalism in posts?
We are a culture that tends to gravitate towards what is convenient.
That being said, I'm an American who shed a ton of weight and is never putting it back on. It's challenging, but I don't imagine it is all that different from what people in any other (developed) country would encounter.
Yea good on you! I love your very sensible eat less, move about, drink water. And mainly focus on health. Some of the posts I have found a bit hard to understand, and they are mainly US ones. How - sorry; I don't mean to be personal, but just as an American friend on this site - did you come to gain so much weight in the first place? As in terms of the US culture and dietary issues, not your stuff whatever that may have been, and in any case you sound like you're well sorted0 -
Americans tend to be more sedentary on average and consume more calories.Can anyone help me a bit with understanding the differences in the US, where most members seem to come from? I sort of knew that obesity is a bigger (sorry; LOL) problem in the US than most places in Europe, and I'm certainly much too fat myself so I don't mean to be at all judgemental. I'm just curious, having noticed that many US members want to lose a lot of weight, and/or have done so but are on a second go-round. Maybe this ought to be a different topic, and perhaps it already has been - I'm quite new. I did wonder whether particular US dietary issues cause some extra fustration which comes out as anger and judgementalism in posts?
We are a culture that tends to gravitate towards what is convenient.
That being said, I'm an American who shed a ton of weight and is never putting it back on. It's challenging, but I don't imagine it is all that different from what people in any other (developed) country would encounter.
Actually, obesity is not a bigger problem in the US than most places in Europe. According to a study released in 2007 by the German Government, Germany has the highest rate of obesity in Europe, the same rate as that of the United States. The study also found that other countries, including the United Kingdom, Greece and some Eastern European countries have an even higher rate of "morbidly obese" than Germany. If you want to read a synopsis of the study, check out Spiegel online, first quarter of 2007. I don't recall the exact publication date. I remember the study because a cousin called me from Munich moaning about how awful it was to be "as fat as an American tourist!!"
Regardless, being fit and healthy is "borderless." Best wishes to you in your effort!
Yes - didn't mean anything different. I'm a fat UK person. It was just in response to some of the posts I've seen, where finding healthy food options seemed to create difficulties. So I wondered whether there are problems with access to good nutrition and why this might be. Also there are people on this site who have most admirably lost huge amounts of weight - I suppose it's just surprised me, but then I've never joined a website like this before.0 -
"""How did we Americans come to gain so much weight in the first place. """
You can't ask it of all of us at once!!! We don't speak in unison as has probably been reported in British tabloids!!!
I personally ate out all the time and it made me sluggish and drowsy.. like a bear....in hibernation.
And lots of other reasons!
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I would guess no we cant all get along. I eat and work out and dont eat work out calories like millions of people dont who dont know what MFP is and eating calories back mean and people on here say I have an eating disorder lol. Crazy. So millions of people workout and dont eat because they are done and go to bed all have eating disorders lol. Wow...so noooo we can't all get along.0
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Very well said!
I was smiling as I finished reading your post wondering how far I would have to scroll down before someone disagreed. :laugh:0
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