lifting weights
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This is an FYI as I see this misconception all over the boards...
Just because you have weights in your hands doesn't mean you are lifting weights.
Lifting weights as a strength training exercise involves heavy weight and low reps. If you're doing more than 12-15 reps, it's a cardio exercise. If you can 10 reps fairly easily, you're not lifting heavy enough.
Just because you have weights in your hands doesn't mean you are lifting weights.
Lifting weights as a strength training exercise involves heavy weight and low reps. If you're doing more than 12-15 reps, it's a cardio exercise. If you can 10 reps fairly easily, you're not lifting heavy enough.
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I am beginning a weightlifting program on Monday. This is actually quite helpful. I need to be reminded to push myself. Thank you!0
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To each their own.0
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i am squating 315.. am i doing it right?0
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There's lifting heavy and then there's wasting your time!
Ladies! This counts for you too! I'm lifting heavy (well, heavier) and only getting smaller!0 -
This is an FYI as I see this misconception all over the boards...
Just because you have weights in your hands doesn't mean you are lifting weights.
Lifting weights as a strength training exercise involves heavy weight and low reps. If you're doing more than 12-15 reps, it's a cardio exercise. If you can 10 reps fairly easily, you're not lifting heavy enough.
Oh goody! This does make me feel bit better about my arms hurting after doing 3 sets of about 11 reps of the bench press and clean and press, only managed about 5 with more weight on for deadlift x 5 sets... and helps indicate that they were heavy "enough" for me to be getting some strength training workout from... I do enough cardio on the bloody machines and running plus the odd Tabata... the last think I want to only get as a benefit for lifting that horrible (love/hate) bar is ANOTHER CV workout!0 -
This is an FYI as I see this misconception all over the boards...
Just because you have weights in your hands doesn't mean you are lifting weights.
Lifting weights as a strength training exercise involves heavy weight and low reps. If you're doing more than 12-15 reps, it's a cardio exercise. If you can 10 reps fairly easily, you're not lifting heavy enough.
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Since we're on a forum I'll add to this that if you're lifting more than once a week you're wasting your time. And if you're doing more than one set you're not working to true failure. High Intensity Training works and I think everyone should put their lifting routines away for two weeks, read the book by Dr. Ellington Darden called "The New High Intensity Training" and experience your true genetic potential in less time. Doubt this? Ever see a lion doing push-ups? A cheeta jogging? A gorilla doing pull-ups? Fact is most lifting is over done and sleep is lacking. Enjoy the read...otherwise, enjoy your time in the gym.0
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Since we're on a forum I'll add to this that if you're lifting more than once a week you're wasting your time. And if you're doing more than one set you're not working to true failure. High Intensity Training works and I think everyone should put their lifting routines away for two weeks, read the book by Dr. Ellington Darden called "The New High Intensity Training" and experience your true genetic potential in less time. Doubt this? Ever see a lion doing push-ups? A cheeta jogging? A gorilla doing pull-ups? Fact is most lifting is over done and sleep is lacking. Enjoy the read...otherwise, enjoy your time in the gym.
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i am squating 315.. am i doing it right?
not if you can squat that 25 times. :P0 -
Since we're on a forum I'll add to this that if you're lifting more than once a week you're wasting your time. And if you're doing more than one set you're not working to true failure. High Intensity Training works and I think everyone should put their lifting routines away for two weeks, read the book by Dr. Ellington Darden called "The New High Intensity Training" and experience your true genetic potential in less time. Doubt this? Ever see a lion doing push-ups? A cheeta jogging? A gorilla doing pull-ups? Fact is most lifting is over done and sleep is lacking. Enjoy the read...otherwise, enjoy your time in the gym.
WTF?
I mean, I know true HIIT is anaerobic... but, seriously?0 -
I started Les Mills Pump from Beachbody a couple weeks ago. Love it! It's not considered lifting weights though, because it focuses on the "rep effect". High reps, low weights. Perfect for what I want to achieve though.
And what is that? that program is mainly cardio, you will not get the benefits of lifting weights doing that many reps. Even women benefit from lifting heavy, and you will not bulk up due to a caloric deficit and lack of testosterone.0 -
Since we're on a forum I'll add to this that if you're lifting more than once a week you're wasting your time. And if you're doing more than one set you're not working to true failure. High Intensity Training works and I think everyone should put their lifting routines away for two weeks, read the book by Dr. Ellington Darden called "The New High Intensity Training" and experience your true genetic potential in less time. Doubt this? Ever see a lion doing push-ups? A cheeta jogging? A gorilla doing pull-ups? Fact is most lifting is over done and sleep is lacking. Enjoy the read...otherwise, enjoy your time in the gym.
WTF?
now i'm tryin' to remember if i've ever seen a lion do a push up.
I mean, I know true HIIT is anaerobic... but, seriously?0 -
High reps build muscle endurance and does little to actually strengthen muscle. IMO, these types of workouts were designed to appeal to females so that they don't think they will get too muscular.I started Les Mills Pump from Beachbody a couple weeks ago. Love it! It's not considered lifting weights though, because it focuses on the "rep effect". High reps, low weights. Perfect for what I want to achieve though.
Study after study show that challenging muscle with overload will yield better results compared to using lighter loads with higher repetitions.
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Full parallel squats or 1/4 squats? See it all the time in the gym.i am squating 315.. am i doing it right?
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Do you think there are benefits to doing Body Pump? I am trying to lose weight (another 50 pounds) and am not strong enough to lift heavy at the moment (been doing 10kg clean and press and 8-12kg kettlebells).0
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Since we're on a forum I'll add to this that if you're lifting more than once a week you're wasting your time. And if you're doing more than one set you're not working to true failure. High Intensity Training works and I think everyone should put their lifting routines away for two weeks, read the book by Dr. Ellington Darden called "The New High Intensity Training" and experience your true genetic potential in less time. Doubt this? Ever see a lion doing push-ups? A cheeta jogging? A gorilla doing pull-ups? Fact is most lifting is over done and sleep is lacking. Enjoy the read...otherwise, enjoy your time in the gym.
No, but I've never seen them sit at a desk punching at keys on a keyboard all day either. If I were still a wild thing in my natural habitat I wouldn't have to exercise because my lifestyle would show on my body, but as it stands I have to earn money which means sitting on my *kitten* all day, so I have 1 hour per day to get in what my ancestors would do to survive. The arguement goes both ways and I don't think it holds much water.0 -
Since we're on a forum I'll add to this that if you're lifting more than once a week you're wasting your time. And if you're doing more than one set you're not working to true failure. High Intensity Training works and I think everyone should put their lifting routines away for two weeks, read the book by Dr. Ellington Darden called "The New High Intensity Training" and experience your true genetic potential in less time. Doubt this? Ever see a lion doing push-ups? A cheeta jogging? A gorilla doing pull-ups? Fact is most lifting is over done and sleep is lacking. Enjoy the read...otherwise, enjoy your time in the gym.
And you eat Paleo, I presume?
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Since we're on a forum I'll add to this that if you're lifting more than once a week you're wasting your time. And if you're doing more than one set you're not working to true failure. High Intensity Training works and I think everyone should put their lifting routines away for two weeks, read the book by Dr. Ellington Darden called "The New High Intensity Training" and experience your true genetic potential in less time. Doubt this? Ever see a lion doing push-ups? A cheeta jogging? A gorilla doing pull-ups? Fact is most lifting is over done and sleep is lacking. Enjoy the read...otherwise, enjoy your time in the gym.
I've also never seen a gorilla pee in a urinal. Our needs and the usage of our bodies is totally different. Maybe if we ran around on all fours in the jungle and scavenged for our food, we'd only need to lift once a week.0 -
I started Les Mills Pump from Beachbody a couple weeks ago. Love it! It's not considered lifting weights though, because it focuses on the "rep effect". High reps, low weights. Perfect for what I want to achieve though.
And what is that? that program is mainly cardio, you will not get the benefits of lifting weights doing that many reps. Even women benefit from lifting heavy, and you will not bulk up due to a caloric deficit and lack of testosterone.
I'm a body pump instructor and I lift heavy weights on other days. I see one as part of my cardio routine and the other as part of my strength training routine. I think there are great benefits to body pump and have seen people who do other cardio work excellerate their results by adding body pump to their workouts in lieu of another running day or stepping day. Just saying, yes it's anecdotal, but I've seen great benefits to adding this class to someone's routine.0 -
This is my internal struggle. When I lifted hard, I never did the high rep thing, I was all about strength.
Now that my interests have changed and I run a lot and train for marathons, I only do body weight exercises because I can't justify to myself a gym membership for one day a week to do an exercise counter productive to my main goal. I still like being at least somewhat muscular, so the bodyweight thing at least allows me that. But after a point I'm doing a boatload of reps which just gets boring.0 -
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There isn't enough peer reviewed clinical study to back this. Working to true failure would mean not walking out of the gym at all. Sorry, but if you're going to tout it, then it has to be total. If you can do another set of reps after resting a minute or 2, was it true failure?Since we're on a forum I'll add to this that if you're lifting more than once a week you're wasting your time. And if you're doing more than one set you're not working to true failure. High Intensity Training works and I think everyone should put their lifting routines away for two weeks, read the book by Dr. Ellington Darden called "The New High Intensity Training" and experience your true genetic potential in less time. Doubt this? Ever see a lion doing push-ups? A cheeta jogging? A gorilla doing pull-ups? Fact is most lifting is over done and sleep is lacking. Enjoy the read...otherwise, enjoy your time in the gym.
This is broscience and has been around since the Mike Mentzer and Darden got together. Darden also touted "Nautilus" machines over free weights with Arthur Jones.
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If you want muscle endurance and some extra cardio, then it's beneficial.Do you think there are benefits to doing Body Pump? I am trying to lose weight (another 50 pounds) and am not strong enough to lift heavy at the moment (been doing 10kg clean and press and 8-12kg kettlebells).
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There's lifting heavy and then there's wasting your time!
Ladies! This counts for you too! I'm lifting heavy (well, heavier) and only getting smaller!
^^^This is why I love you, girl!!
I completely agree. I feel blessed that I started off lifting with some guy friends because I'm so competitive that I felt like while I may not have been able to start off keeping up with them pound for pound (they've been doing this together since WAY before I joined in), I did have to prove that I wasn't some insepid girly girl who couldn't hold her own. It's been less than 2 months and they continue to be impressed and so very encouraging as my abilities & weights continue to increase.
I think of it in these terms...the more weight I can lift, the more weight that's coming off me. I'd rather bust my butt lifting those weights a couple nights a week than carry it around on my body for the rest of my life.0 -
Full parallel squats or 1/4 squats? See it all the time in the gym.i am squating 315.. am i doing it right?
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Here's a question....parallel squats aren't useless are they? Because I just started lifting heavy about 4 weeks ago, and I think I'm getting almost down to parallel, but there is no mirror by the rack so I can't really tell? I'm sometimes afraid to go down any farther or I might fall on my *kitten*. I am feeling it in my quads big time, so something is working. I'm only lifting about 85 lbs....0 -
Since we're on a forum I'll add to this that if you're lifting more than once a week you're wasting your time. And if you're doing more than one set you're not working to true failure. High Intensity Training works and I think everyone should put their lifting routines away for two weeks, read the book by Dr. Ellington Darden called "The New High Intensity Training" and experience your true genetic potential in less time. Doubt this? Ever see a lion doing push-ups? A cheeta jogging? A gorilla doing pull-ups? Fact is most lifting is over done and sleep is lacking. Enjoy the read...otherwise, enjoy your time in the gym.
No, but I've never seen them sit at a desk punching at keys on a keyboard all day either. If I were still a wild thing in my natural habitat I wouldn't have to exercise because my lifestyle would show on my body, but as it stands I have to earn money which means sitting on my *kitten* all day, so I have 1 hour per day to get in what my ancestors would do to survive. The arguement goes both ways and I don't think it holds much water.
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Full parallel squats or 1/4 squats? See it all the time in the gym.i am squating 315.. am i doing it right?
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Here's a question....parallel squats aren't useless are they? Because I just started lifting heavy about 4 weeks ago, and I think I'm getting almost down to parallel, but there is no mirror by the rack so I can't really tell? I'm sometimes afraid to go down any farther or I might fall on my *kitten*. I am feeling it in my quads big time, so something is working. I'm only lifting about 85 lbs....
They're worse than useless; they're dangerous. You will hurt your knees. It is critical to break the parallel. Your hip crease should go just below your knees. A mirror will not really help you. You will need someone watching you and/or a video recorder. Recording yourself doing these lifts is always an eye-opening experience.
Practice with body weight. Increase the weight very slowly. Form comes first, weight comes second.0 -
Yes, there is definitely benefit to cardio workouts. My point was simply to not confuse high rep workouts (which is effectively cardio) with high resistance strength training.Do you think there are benefits to doing Body Pump? I am trying to lose weight (another 50 pounds) and am not strong enough to lift heavy at the moment (been doing 10kg clean and press and 8-12kg kettlebells).0 -
Full parallel squats or 1/4 squats? See it all the time in the gym.i am squating 315.. am i doing it right?
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Here's a question....parallel squats aren't useless are they? Because I just started lifting heavy about 4 weeks ago, and I think I'm getting almost down to parallel, but there is no mirror by the rack so I can't really tell? I'm sometimes afraid to go down any farther or I might fall on my *kitten*. I am feeling it in my quads big time, so something is working. I'm only lifting about 85 lbs....
My life right now, exactly. Damned squats are killing me. No, parallel is far from useless... Get someone to video you squatting and/or sit and watch you... when you get parallel, have them let you know... it will start to stick then. I had my husband do this for about a week or so. He got tired and nearly fell asleep on me several times, but I yelled at him to stay awake... it's helped me know when I'm far enough down. Then, I try to go just a bit lower if I can.0
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