Blood work on Atkins (December and April)

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  • tattereds
    tattereds Posts: 120 Member
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    If a person has Type 2 diabetes it is able to be reversed. The A1C level of someone that does not have diabetes is 5.5% or less.

    So, my doctor told me if you get your A1C down to 5.5% or less for 2 testings in a row then you are no longer diabetic.

    There is a lot of information on the internet about reversing diabetes also.

    My naturopath told me the Dr's and pharmaceutical companies will tell you that it is not able to be reversed so you won't change your eating habits because then they will lose money.

    I don't want to be a party pooper.... But just for clarification, even here in Australia where healthcare and maintenance is available for FREE, Type 1 diabetes in not reversable...

    Only Type 2 is reversable.

    I don't think that doctors and pharma companies are trying to pull the wool over our eyes by convincing us not to bother getting well and healthy. And anyway, wouldn't that go against the hypocratic oath? Doctors are supposed to encourage you to facilitate living the healthiest life you can possibly live.
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
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    If a person has Type 2 diabetes it is able to be reversed. The A1C level of someone that does not have diabetes is 5.5% or less.

    So, my doctor told me if you get your A1C down to 5.5% or less for 2 testings in a row then you are no longer diabetic.

    There is a lot of information on the internet about reversing diabetes also.

    My naturopath told me the Dr's and pharmaceutical companies will tell you that it is not able to be reversed so you won't change your eating habits because then they will lose money.

    I don't want to be a party pooper.... But just for clarification, even here in Australia where healthcare and maintenance is available for FREE, Type 1 diabetes in not reversable...

    Only Type 2 is reversable.

    I don't think that doctors and pharma companies are trying to pull the wool over our eyes by convincing us not to bother getting well and healthy. And anyway, wouldn't that go against the hypocratic oath? Doctors are supposed to encourage you to facilitate living the healthiest life you can possibly live.

    No where in my post did you see me say anything about Type 1 Diabetes. I said Type 2 is reversible.

    And yes the Dr's and the pharmaceutical companies are in bed together along with the American Diabetes Association. They keep telling you that you need a eating plan that is moderate carb so you have to stay on medication.

    I know for a fact that it can be reversed as I have already reversed it once and intend to do it again and this time keep it that way.
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
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    Blood work Drawn May 26, 2010


    Weight: 228 lbs
    Total Cholesterol: 183 (100-199 normal ranges)
    HDL: 62 (40-59 normal ranges)
    VLDL: 19 (5-40 normal ranges)
    LDL Cholesterol 102 (0-99 normal range)
    Triglycerides: 108 (0 - 149 normal range) - In normal range, but on the high side of normal

    A1C was 5.8%
    Fasting Glucose = 129 (Little high as all morning readings are)
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
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    If a person has Type 2 diabetes it is able to be reversed. The A1C level of someone that does not have diabetes is 5.5% or less.

    So, my doctor told me if you get your A1C down to 5.5% or less for 2 testings in a row then you are no longer diabetic.

    There is a lot of information on the internet about reversing diabetes also.

    My naturopath told me the Dr's and pharmaceutical companies will tell you that it is not able to be reversed so you won't change your eating habits because then they will lose money.

    I don't want to be a party pooper.... But just for clarification, even here in Australia where healthcare and maintenance is available for FREE, Type 1 diabetes in not reversable...

    Only Type 2 is reversable.

    I don't think that doctors and pharma companies are trying to pull the wool over our eyes by convincing us not to bother getting well and healthy. And anyway, wouldn't that go against the hypocratic oath? Doctors are supposed to encourage you to facilitate living the healthiest life you can possibly live.

    I am more convinced today than ever that the Doctors and the Pharmaceutical companies are in bed together and these conventional thinking doctors don't try to find the cause of what is going on with us as patients.

    I am going through this with 2 different doctors right now..............

    My family doctor told me that my sugar and A1C are "normal". Umm, no they are not. If my numbers were "normal", then I would have had fasting glucose readings in the 90's and my A1C would be 5.2% or less..............No, I am no longer type 2 Diabetic with the first set of numbers, I am insulin resistant, which is not normal..........

    Same thing goes with my Thyroid and Adrenal Gland testing...........................The blood work says it is in the "normal" range..........Why do I have the symptoms of hypothyroid and adrenal gland fatigue then?

    They sit there shrugging their shoulders at me...............offer me some diet pills, pain killers and muscle relaxers for my aches and pains...............That is not finding the cause of the problem, that is putting a band aid on it.

    so, I got on the phone with a Naturopathic Doctor and a natural Pharmacist. Discuss my blood work with them and ask each one of them for an honest assessment.............. They both said Hypothyroid and Adrenal Gland Fatigue......... What a relief and frustrating because my Doctors (Family PCP and Gynecologist won't listen to me when I am telling them my symptoms.)
  • tattereds
    tattereds Posts: 120 Member
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    :laugh: conspiracy theorists make me laugh.


    Despite what many Americans may think, the United States is NOT the centre of the universe, expecially when it comes to the area of medical care. Check out some international sites for some up to date info. It seems that your doctors are negligently oblivious, and you have consequently been misinformed.

    My advice is that you should get some new docs. The ones you are currently relying on don't seem to be worth much if they don't realise that you obviously have medical issues that need attention. Though, from your last post, you seem to have realised this already.

    Good luck xoxo
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
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    :laugh: conspiracy theorists make me laugh.


    Despite what many Americans may think, the United States is NOT the centre of the universe, expecially when it comes to the area of medical care. Check out some international sites for some up to date info. It seems that your doctors are negligently oblivIious, and you have consequently been misinformed.

    My advice is that you should get some new docs. The ones you are currently relying on don't seem to be worth much if they don't realise that you obviously have medical issues that need attention. Though, from your last post, you seem to have realised this already.

    Good luck xoxo

    I am not a conspiracy theorist. More like an anarchist.

    I went through this same thing when I lived in South Carolina, Georgia and Virginia. Civilian and military doctors..........

    The way of the medical field is to prescribe pills, so you stay sick and need more...........They don't work to make a person healthy.

    Just take a look at how many pill commercials are on TV, it is sickening and obvious what their agenda is.
  • tattereds
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    Maybe in your part of the world, that is true. But I live in Australia.

    I work at a medical centre. Most of them spend hours after we have closed the practice (and their shift has ended) hanging back to check on test results, making unbilled house calls, and investigating new research on various different conditions. Interestingly, the doctors I work with earn less per hour than I do as a receptionist.On top of this, most even have to work a second job!

    In Australia, doctors are not allowed to accept any payment or gifts from pharmaceutical companies at all.
    The federal government here also imposes strict rules that govern how, when and where Pharma companies can advertise. You don't see a lot of tv commercials for new antidepressants here! In fact... I've never seen one.

    Health care is all bulk billed (to Australian citizens) by most doctors and hospitals. This means that medical care provided is FREE. It is true that there are some doctors (usually specialists) who charge some out of pocket fees, but rebates are available to Australian citizens in the same manner as bulk billing applies. Private health insurance often covers any gap fees. Bulk billing alternatives to these doctors are also available and are just as high quality, though you may have to wait slightly longer to see them. Rebates also apply to naturopathic and holistic medical care in many instances. Surgical procedures which are considered necessary for quality of life are usually partially or wholly rebatable also (this includes gastric banding, mastectomy and reconstructive surgery, appendectomy etc).

    Most medications are also subect to bulk billing or rebates. Some are free.

    Generally, the only medical care and medications that people HAVE to pay for here are those which are generally considered cosmetic or nominal - ie, you don't need them but you want them. This includes things like cosmetic surgery (except for in reconstructive cases), diet pills in most cases, and quit-smoking patches/pills etc. These things are usually partially or wholly covered by private health insurance people may take out at their own cost, depending on their level of cover.

    Private health insurance is also a good idea for people who don't want to have to wait a few weeks for a non urgent specialist appointment, or would prefer a private room when hospitalisation may be necessary.

    And yet despite all these factors, wouldn't you know it... Diabetes still exists in Australia! OMG. Now doesn't that just mess with your brain? Doctors and Pharma companies have nothing to gain... but they still tell us we are ill? This goes for all those other conditions I often hear people (usually from countries with no welfare-supported healthcare system) saying we don't really need medication for, or trying to convince others simply do not exist... HIV, Chrohn's, Epilepsy, Autism, Cancer.. the list goes on and on!

    Why? BECAUSE THEY ARE REAL!

    July, I respect your scepticism, truly. It means that you are intelligent enough that you question the world and things that are presented to you as being the truth, rather than following the heard and swallowing everything you are told to believe. You have a mind of your own, an important attribute to possess these days!

    But please don't bury your head on this one. Try to open yourself up to the possibility that there may be a health care provider out there somewhere that truly does want you to be well, and wants to help you achieve that goal whatever it takes.

    xoxo
  • sexygenius
    sexygenius Posts: 1,078 Member
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    not being rude, im just curious, why did you delete the other profile July24lioness? personally, i like the name leanlioness better it had really good flow.
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
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    not being rude, im just curious, why did you delete the other profile July24lioness? personally, i like the name leanlioness better it had really good flow.

    I was going to leave this website last year due to being harrassed about my Lifestyle. I got a gushing amount of support and created another account after that one was deleted.
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
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    Maybe in your part of the world, that is true. But I live in Australia.

    I work at a medical centre. Most of them spend hours after we have closed the practice (and their shift has ended) hanging back to check on test results, making unbilled house calls, and investigating new research on various different conditions. Interestingly, the doctors I work with earn less per hour than I do as a receptionist.On top of this, most even have to work a second job!

    In Australia, doctors are not allowed to accept any payment or gifts from pharmaceutical companies at all.
    The federal government here also imposes strict rules that govern how, when and where Pharma companies can advertise. You don't see a lot of tv commercials for new antidepressants here! In fact... I've never seen one.

    Health care is all bulk billed (to Australian citizens) by most doctors and hospitals. This means that medical care provided is FREE. It is true that there are some doctors (usually specialists) who charge some out of pocket fees, but rebates are available to Australian citizens in the same manner as bulk billing applies. Private health insurance often covers any gap fees. Bulk billing alternatives to these doctors are also available and are just as high quality, though you may have to wait slightly longer to see them. Rebates also apply to naturopathic and holistic medical care in many instances. Surgical procedures which are considered necessary for quality of life are usually partially or wholly rebatable also (this includes gastric banding, mastectomy and reconstructive surgery, appendectomy etc).

    Most medications are also subect to bulk billing or rebates. Some are free.

    Generally, the only medical care and medications that people HAVE to pay for here are those which are generally considered cosmetic or nominal - ie, you don't need them but you want them. This includes things like cosmetic surgery (except for in reconstructive cases), diet pills in most cases, and quit-smoking patches/pills etc. These things are usually partially or wholly covered by private health insurance people may take out at their own cost, depending on their level of cover.

    Private health insurance is also a good idea for people who don't want to have to wait a few weeks for a non urgent specialist appointment, or would prefer a private room when hospitalisation may be necessary.

    And yet despite all these factors, wouldn't you know it... Diabetes still exists in Australia! OMG. Now doesn't that just mess with your brain? Doctors and Pharma companies have nothing to gain... but they still tell us we are ill? This goes for all those other conditions I often hear people (usually from countries with no welfare-supported healthcare system) saying we don't really need medication for, or trying to convince others simply do not exist... HIV, Chrohn's, Epilepsy, Autism, Cancer.. the list goes on and on!

    Why? BECAUSE THEY ARE REAL!

    July, I respect your scepticism, truly. It means that you are intelligent enough that you question the world and things that are presented to you as being the truth, rather than following the heard and swallowing everything you are told to believe. You have a mind of your own, an important attribute to possess these days!

    But please don't bury your head on this one. Try to open yourself up to the possibility that there may be a health care provider out there somewhere that truly does want you to be well, and wants to help you achieve that goal whatever it takes.

    xoxo

    Thanks. I have said this time and time again...............Most other countries have WAY BETTER health coverages and practices than us in the United States. I firmly believe that other countries invest more into their society than does the United States also. It is sad to say that, but it is true...............

    The doctors (family Dr and Gynecologist) both told me oh well, nothing I can do - your blood work is "normal". You don't have adrenal gland fatigue or hypothyroidism and the Dr that was treating you for those conditions in Virginia must be a quack.

    I told both Doctors that No, she was not a quack. She listened to me and the symptoms I have and treated me "the whole person", not my lab results.

    My family Dr said this to me............"Well this is what I can do for you. I can give you anti-inflammatory drug, muscle relaxer, diet pill and water pill and an anti-depressent to help with your aches and pains." That is not making me a whole person............that is sending me down a path of addictions to pain pills and I don't want that.

    I did find a Naturopathic Dr and I will be seeing her on July 9. In the meantime, she is working with a compounding pharmacist to get me started on Natural Thyroid and Adrenal Gland Support. She looked at my bloodwork and said "How can your other Dr's not understand that you have a Thyroid issue???"

    I told her I don't know.............

    That's why I referred to the US of A and their medical practices..............

    Every night I turn on the TV I see Viagra, Cialis, Rumatoid Arthritis, a host of depression and bi-polar meds commercials..........

    And the kicker is...............I have been being treated for depression and bi-polar disorder and more than likely those symtpoms have manifested from the Thyroid and Adrenal Gland Fatigue issues............Grrrrrr. :explode: :explode:
  • SandraMay1982
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    Another Australian here.

    I just had to poke my nose in with the debate on health care. Australia is a VERY lucky country in comparison.

    My father is close to 400lbs / 180kgs he was an unhealthy atkins person. saw it on tv, and ate white bread with the cheese and meats. No matter how many times I told him that the grainier the bread, the better it is for him.

    He recently went to our family GP. The outcome.

    1) he goes to the doctor about gastric bypass.
    2) the doctor says, see the nurse, we are going to make a weight loss contract.
    he has 6 months to lose 10kgs. (he has medical issues so he can't actively exercise, mostly caused by the weight)
    3) the doctor sends out a referral to the local gym.
    4) dad goes to see the dietician / physiotherapist every few weeks and gets weighed.

    he's been doing this for about a month and has lost about 3kgs I do believe. His exercise is going out to the garden, and collecting the mail from the letter box. He's been told to cut down on the fatty foods and the bad carb consumption and go on a low GI diet.

    Low GI is the current rage so it seems.

    I myself tried a low carb meal replacement shake diet, and it's so true that if you intend to do it now, you have to intend to do it for the rest of your life, otherwise the weight just comes back. (I know the replacement shakes are not a good thing, but I am non-eater and they actually mean I make myself have SOMETHING, even if it is just a shake twice a day with a meal at the end).

    Anyway. I don't think Atkins is a bad thing on the whole, but you certainly have my sympathies with the American Health Care System being the way it is.
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
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    Another Australian here.

    I just had to poke my nose in with the debate on health care. Australia is a VERY lucky country in comparison.

    My father is close to 400lbs / 180kgs he was an unhealthy atkins person. saw it on tv, and ate white bread with the cheese and meats. No matter how many times I told him that the grainier the bread, the better it is for him.

    He recently went to our family GP. The outcome.

    1) he goes to the doctor about gastric bypass.
    2) the doctor says, see the nurse, we are going to make a weight loss contract.
    he has 6 months to lose 10kgs. (he has medical issues so he can't actively exercise, mostly caused by the weight)
    3) the doctor sends out a referral to the local gym.
    4) dad goes to see the dietician / physiotherapist every few weeks and gets weighed.

    he's been doing this for about a month and has lost about 3kgs I do believe. His exercise is going out to the garden, and collecting the mail from the letter box. He's been told to cut down on the fatty foods and the bad carb consumption and go on a low GI diet.

    Low GI is the current rage so it seems.

    I myself tried a low carb meal replacement shake diet, and it's so true that if you intend to do it now, you have to intend to do it for the rest of your life, otherwise the weight just comes back. (I know the replacement shakes are not a good thing, but I am non-eater and they actually mean I make myself have SOMETHING, even if it is just a shake twice a day with a meal at the end).

    Anyway. I don't think Atkins is a bad thing on the whole, but you certainly have my sympathies with the American Health Care System being the way it is.

    The Atkins plan is actually based on the GI chart. In Phase 1 of the plan you take out everything except for green leafy veggies and protein.

    Phase 2 you start adding in more veggies, fruits, nuts, seeds, dairy, grains and alcohol according to the "carb" ladder, which essentially goes right up the GI chart. You eat whole, natural foods.

    There has been so much bad media attention about Atkins that it is just engrained into everyone's mind that it is bad for you when in actuality it is not.

    What Atkins is, is very structured, which a lot of people need. I am glad I had the open mind (many do not) to read the book and give it a try upon my doctors advice.