Timing is everything...

Acg67

Here's a fun study

Sofer S, et al. Greater weight loss and hormonal changes after 6 months diet with carbohydrates eaten mostly at dinner. Obesity, 2011 Apr 7.

http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/v19/n10/full/oby201148a.html

Interpretation: Carbs at dinner can help an obese person lose 25 pounds instead of 19. Myself (and probably others reading this) don't fall into the obese group. These results should be interpreted with caution, when applying them to a demographic of anyone who is not obese.

I agree, and does your advice apply universally?

Sidesteal

Thanks for the post! I have been a late night snacker for years..terrible habit! =/

. If you can do so without overconsuming calories, it's actually not a bad habit at all.

ninerbuff

Just a few words of wisdom passed down to me from an AMAZING personal trainer (former bodybuilder, competitive swimmer, and 50-year old roller derby champion!)

WHEN you eat is just as important as WHAT you eat. Eating the "right" food isn't enough... you have to eat the right food at the right time.

1. It's wise to eat a big breakfast (more than 1/3 of your daily cal intake), and CRITICAL to do so with within an hour of waking. Breakfast is an especially important time to give your body the carbs it needs to get through the day. It's like gassing up your car before you go on a road trip... you need the fuel!

Myth. No clinical study shows that it's critical to do this.

2. If you're doing any resistance training (and you should be) then your body NEEDS protein immediately afterword. Resistance training breaks down the muscle (essentially injuring it), so your body needs new raw materials to re-build that muscle. Get at least 20 grams of protein in your system within 30 minutes of completing your exercise. Protein shakes aren't just for body builders... they're for anyone who wants their muscles to do their fat-burning for them!

Muscle rebuilds within 24 hours of breaking down, so as long as protein is being supplied to rebuild in that time, then it's fine.

3. When you're asleep, you want your body to be burning FAT, not burning the food you've eaten, right? A great way to accomplish this is by cutting or severely limiting carbs after lunch. Would you fill up your gas tank right before you go on a 1-month vacation? Of course not! So why would your body need a bunch of energy (i.e. carbs) before bed?! If you're going to have bread or pasta, eat it before 3pm, and save your last meal of the day for protein, vitamin, and mineral restoration (meat and veggies).

Myth. You burn fat at rest regardless of what you've eaten.

A quick summary:
Eat breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, and dinner like a pauper... Front-load your carbs so that your body burns fat, not food, while you're asleep.

Best of luck!

This is BROSCIENCE at it's best.

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iluxoxo211

Thanks for the post! I have been a late night snacker for years..terrible habit! =/

. If you can do so without overconsuming calories, it's actually not a bad habit at all.

I always make sure I save calories for night time because I get hungry so I guess I am okay then! thanks a bunch!

Sidesteal

Thanks for the post! I have been a late night snacker for years..terrible habit! =/

. If you can do so without overconsuming calories, it's actually not a bad habit at all.

I always make sure I save calories for night time because I get hungry so I guess I am okay then! thanks a bunch!

. Considering you've lost 75lbs so far, I'd say late night eating is a good fit for you and I hope you continue to enjoy it.

ninerbuff

Thanks lady! That was kind of the point of my post, it was a little surprising to see the directions people chose to take it. I appreciate the opportunity for dialogue, fact-sharing, and most importantly, support from other health-minded folks, so thanks for sharing your success with us!

Trying to relay facts that aren't true don't really deserve support. That would be an injustice to actual science.

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taunto

Bumping this for later

theoriginaljayne

May I just say... this is the most brilliant GIF I've ever seen.

(Edited to remove unnecessary quoting. And yes, quoting the image itself was very necessary.)

adietron

and for point #2

Burd NA et al. Enhanced amino acid sensitivity of myofibrillar protein synthesis persists for up to 24 h after resistance exercise in young men. J Nutr. 2011 Apr 1;141(4):568-73. Epub 2011 Feb 2.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21289204

This study doesn't have to do with meal timing or protein feeding; rather, it tested the hypothesis that exercise-mediated enhancement of muscle protein synthesis to feeding persists 24 h after resistance exercise.

However, the same research group that you quoted demonstrated that synthesis of the myofibrillar fraction is enhanced with protein feeding early after exercise (i.e. up to 5 h).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19124543

yesthistime

Bump to watch the train wreck in the morning. Why do I do this myself???

iqnas

LOL

adietron

Here's a fun study

Sofer S, et al. Greater weight loss and hormonal changes after 6 months diet with carbohydrates eaten mostly at dinner. Obesity, 2011 Apr 7.

http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/v19/n10/full/oby201148a.html

Interpretation: Carbs at dinner can help an obese person lose 25 pounds instead of 19. Myself (and probably others reading this) don't fall into the obese group. These results should be interpreted with caution, when applying them to a demographic of anyone who is not obese.

I agree, and does your advice apply universally?

touche!!

DFWTT

I don't know why people have to be so nasty and demeaning. Tell her she is wrong and explain why, perhaps provide links to credible studies that support your opinion. Awesome GIFs tho fo sho...:laugh:

Some people have.

Acg67

and for point #2

Burd NA et al. Enhanced amino acid sensitivity of myofibrillar protein synthesis persists for up to 24 h after resistance exercise in young men. J Nutr. 2011 Apr 1;141(4):568-73. Epub 2011 Feb 2.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21289204

This study doesn't have to do with meal timing or protein feeding; rather, it tested the hypothesis that exercise-mediated enhancement of muscle protein synthesis to feeding persists 24 h after resistance exercise.

However, the same research group that you quoted demonstrated that synthesis of the myofibrillar fraction is enhanced with protein feeding early after exercise (i.e. up to 5 h).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19124543

And do either the studies support this statement? "Get at least 20 grams of protein in your system within 30 minutes of completing your exercise."

jenniejengin

Bump

adietron

and for point #2

Burd NA et al. Enhanced amino acid sensitivity of myofibrillar protein synthesis persists for up to 24 h after resistance exercise in young men. J Nutr. 2011 Apr 1;141(4):568-73. Epub 2011 Feb 2.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21289204

This study doesn't have to do with meal timing or protein feeding; rather, it tested the hypothesis that exercise-mediated enhancement of muscle protein synthesis to feeding persists 24 h after resistance exercise.

However, the same research group that you quoted demonstrated that synthesis of the myofibrillar fraction is enhanced with protein feeding early after exercise (i.e. up to 5 h).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19124543

And do either the studies support this statement? "Get at least 20 grams of protein in your system within 30 minutes of completing your exercise."

Absolutely not! My statements are based on information which was given to me by a successful athlete whom I respect and trust... which is exactly how I opened my original post!

I truly appreciate this discussion. Nutrition science is a war of hypotheses right now, and I'm glad to have read the studies you provided. Keep them coming, please!

poesface

How about this... do what you want. Doubt she was saying this is the ONLY way to eat properly.

I believe the point of the post was just sharing a personal tip. Take it... or leave it. Maybe we should just put a burning cross on her front yard and get it over with. Who is she to think she can just come in and share her personal success story? That's not what this place is for after all... Let's get her! I'll bring the matches!

All you people (yeah... I said "you people") who are crying for science...

This obviously worked for her... and her trainer. There's your science.

ninerbuff

How about this... do what you want. Doubt she was saying this is the ONLY way to eat properly.

I believe the point of the post was just sharing a personal tip. Take it... or leave it. Maybe we should just put a burning cross on her front yard and get it over with. Who is she to think she can just come in and share her personal success story? That's not what this place is for after all... Let's get her! I'll bring the matches!

All you people (yeah... I said "you people") who are crying for science...

This obviously worked for her... and her trainer. There's your science.

HCG, fasting, detoxing, etc. apparently work for others too...........................I'll get the gasoline.

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