The double standard of beauty ~and~ boys/girls.

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  • Il_DaniD_lI
    Il_DaniD_lI Posts: 1,593 Member
    It's totally different. Women use pictures of the beautiful women as an inspiration and I'm sure the beautiful women who have their pic being used as someone elses DP would take it as a compliment.

    What you did (from the sounds of it) is not anything near that. I know I would be hurt if someone used my picture as a DP because they thought it was "unattractive" and would get less friend requests. Just remember - that is an ACTUAL person you found on that Google search.

    What if she was using it as motivation to NOT look like that, then would it be the same thing?

    I will answer this with a question. Would you be hurt if I made your picture my profile picture and told others it was because this is what I do NOT want to look like.
  • stormieweather
    stormieweather Posts: 2,549 Member
    I think...if someone uses another person's photo as a profile pic or in a post, it is usually for one of 2 reasons. 1 - to honor and to indicate a desire to emulate that person. Or 2 - to mock and belittle and to indicate a desire to NOT be like that person.

    The first is a compliment and the second....is not.
    This part I agree with, which I already told you.
    I think it has zero to do with boys or girls, but everything to do with intent.

    This part I don't. I think you are correct, that there is a double standard, on here and in life. Make fun of the fat b@stards, but don't dare make fun of an unattractive female. I don't want to admit it, but I find a lot of truth in it. *hangs head in shame*

    Maybe that's true, but it shouldn't be (imo). I don't make fun of fat b*astards, either. My partner calls himself that now and then and it makes me :mad:
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    It's totally different. Women use pictures of the beautiful women as an inspiration and I'm sure the beautiful women who have their pic being used as someone elses DP would take it as a compliment.

    What you did (from the sounds of it) is not anything near that. I know I would be hurt if someone used my picture as a DP because they thought it was "unattractive" and would get less friend requests. Just remember - that is an ACTUAL person you found on that Google search.

    I get what you're saying, but that beautiful woman is an ACTUAL person that they found on google as well.
  • AmberJslimsAWAY
    AmberJslimsAWAY Posts: 2,339 Member
    It's totally different. Women use pictures of the beautiful women as an inspiration and I'm sure the beautiful women who have their pic being used as someone elses DP would take it as a compliment.

    What you did (from the sounds of it) is not anything near that. I know I would be hurt if someone used my picture as a DP because they thought it was "unattractive" and would get less friend requests. Just remember - that is an ACTUAL person you found on that Google search.

    What if she was using it as motivation to NOT look like that, then would it be the same thing?

    I will answer this with a question. Would you be hurt if I made your picture my profile picture and told others it was because this is what I do NOT want to look like.

    No because they would be out of their minds ;)
  • _snw_
    _snw_ Posts: 1,298 Member
    you won't be the self-acclaimed attractive girl anymore


    just for the record ... i never called myself attractive. I was actually careful to word that as so. I was trying to make a generalization without having to categorize all levels of attractiveness. But I guess i knew ~someone~ would have to go for the easy "joke".
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    People are also putting "Ridiculously Photogenic Guy's" face on everything right down to Farm Animals.

    The interwebs come with some serious drawbacks...
  • _SusieQ_
    _SusieQ_ Posts: 2,964 Member
    I think...if someone uses another person's photo as a profile pic or in a post, it is usually for one of 2 reasons. 1 - to honor and to indicate a desire to emulate that person. Or 2 - to mock and belittle and to indicate a desire to NOT be like that person.

    The first is a compliment and the second....is not.
    This part I agree with, which I already told you.
    I think it has zero to do with boys or girls, but everything to do with intent.

    This part I don't. I think you are correct, that there is a double standard, on here and in life. Make fun of the fat b@stards, but don't dare make fun of an unattractive female. I don't want to admit it, but I find a lot of truth in it. *hangs head in shame*

    Maybe that's true, but it shouldn't be (imo). I don't make fun of fat b*astards, either. My partner calls himself that now and then and it makes me :mad:

    Ok, maybe that was my own politically incorrect term to use, but my hubs as well uses it all the time about himself, so it just comes naturally.

    I admit to being a hypocrite to my friends, but to everyone else, sorry if that term is offensive to you.
  • SinIsIn
    SinIsIn Posts: 1,865 Member
    I just want to say that you are awesome.. that is all.
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
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    Take this poor dog for example... Completely exploited.
  • PepeGreggerton
    PepeGreggerton Posts: 986 Member
    <~~ Exoploited, I do not own any rights to TMNT.
  • iHEARTcardiacnurses
    iHEARTcardiacnurses Posts: 437 Member
    Making fat jokes isn't a good reflection of who you could truly be.


    wait. i never ever made a fat joke. (i treid to explain the snausage finger joke had nothing to do with weight. when on earth do stubby fingers == fat joke? i'm getting off point here though ... the picture had NOTHING to do with weight. And no negative comment was made.

    Oh you're right. So your skin looks like Beggin Strips and your hair likens to the straw matting of a guinea pig cage. Would you like me to compare anything else of yours to animal foods? Of course, some people would think that Beggin' Strips have great texture and that guinea pig straw smells wonderful, others won't. If you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all.

    Per my grandmother: The wise old owl lived in an oak. The more he saw, the less he spoke. The less he spoke, the more he heard. Why can't we all be like that wise old bird?
  • spade117
    spade117 Posts: 2,466 Member
    I do like the socks.
  • auroranflash
    auroranflash Posts: 3,569 Member
    I would never have a profile picture of anyone that wasn't me. That's me in my profile on one of my good days, shooting rainbows and terrorizing rabbits in canoes. I have a really fond memory of that day and I think you're just a negative ninny who deserves all the internet bashing you can handle.

    :drinker:

    P.S. Where did you buy your socks? Do you think they sell them in XXXL-Tentacle? I always have a really hard time finding my size.
  • iHEARTcardiacnurses
    iHEARTcardiacnurses Posts: 437 Member
    you won't be the self-acclaimed attractive girl anymore


    just for the record ... i never called myself attractive. I was actually careful to word that as so. I was trying to make a generalization without having to categorize all levels of attractiveness. But I guess i knew ~someone~ would have to go for the easy "joke".

    ANNNNDDDD
    Can an attractive girl not pose as an ugly girl but an ugly girl can pose as an attractive girl?

    You did say she was "less-than-attractive" which would be a generalized comparison to yourself. If I roll my eyes any harder I'm likely to have a seizure.
  • TeachTheGirl
    TeachTheGirl Posts: 2,091 Member
    When you post anything there are always people who do this!

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQrh3zr4MpJ0WqtLX_qAxi2WwJGyPBuZkdBfh_bV67umxXJu0Ks

    Completely off topic, but I just want to give that baby a cuddle. T_T
  • vim_n_vigor
    vim_n_vigor Posts: 4,089 Member
    I had a picture of my current body as my profile pic. Nothing obsene, I took different shots of different parts of my body. It isn't pretty. I actually had someone create an account on here to send hatemail about my profile pic. It is still in my pics, but no longer my profile pic. I don't care personally what someone has chosen to represent themselves. It is a double standard, and it will probably always be one.

    Ironically - I got the most friend requests ever when I had that pic for my profile. Go figure!
  • Beastette
    Beastette Posts: 1,497 Member
    I’ll try to make this quick, but I have a few details I don’t want to miss… (I know – words, words, words. Just skip it if it’s too much)

    Yesterday I was in a super cranky mood and did a mass deletion of my friends list. Nothing personal, but in an effort to manage the support I can give, I deleted anyone I didn’t think I’ve “spoken” to in our newsfeeds over the past week. (note: if a friend thought I made a mistake, pm me. No need to go all public. Sheesh.)

    ANYWHO …

    In the UNquest to get more FRs from people who didn’t really want to FR me for any other reason than I have awesome socks, I went out on google images and copied a picture of the first less-than-attractive girl I found and made her my profile picture. Now, ~pubically~, I didn’t make fun of this girl, in fact, I said what her profile picture said about her was “I’m awesome”. (I did make an unfortunately timed joke about her fingers looking like snausages, but I didn’t mean that in any “fat” kind of way. Her fingers just were funny to me, which, I removed the joke soon thereafter. )

    I got some serious hatemail. How I shouldn’t use someone else’s picture like this. How would I feel if someone else used my picture. And on and on and on. Okay, so I ended up offending some. Totally wasn’t my intention. Someone pointed out it was because she was less-than-skinny. That actually had zero to do with it.

    And now to my point… I see girls with profile pictures of pretty girls who are not them ALL THE TIME. Models, actresses, random people off the internet. Honestly, with the exception of the snausages comment, what the hell is the difference here? Why aren’t they receiving hatemail? They did the same exact thing I did – they took a picture, off the public internet, and made it their profile picture. Um, me too. Can an attractive girl not pose as an ugly girl but an ugly girl can pose as an attractive girl? Are we really that brainwashed by how beauty is portrayed to us?

    Oh – the boy angle … When cute boys here have crazy ugly dude pictures as their profile – it’s totally cool. So is this just another double standard?

    Frankly, when I saw that photo it was the closest I've come to FR-ing you. (I don't send those often, nothing implied there.) I liked it, and I thought something totally different than what most people took from it.
  • vim_n_vigor
    vim_n_vigor Posts: 4,089 Member
    Making fat jokes isn't a good reflection of who you could truly be.


    wait. i never ever made a fat joke. (i treid to explain the snausage finger joke had nothing to do with weight. when on earth do stubby fingers == fat joke? i'm getting off point here though ... the picture had NOTHING to do with weight. And no negative comment was made.

    Oh you're right. So your skin looks like Beggin Strips and your hair likens to the straw matting of a guinea pig cage. Would you like me to compare anything else of yours to animal foods? Of course, some people would think that Beggin' Strips have great texture and that guinea pig straw smells wonderful, others won't. If you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all.

    Per my grandmother: The wise old owl lived in an oak. The more he saw, the less he spoke. The less he spoke, the more he heard. Why can't we all be like that wise old bird?

    Even when I was underweight - I had snausage fingers. They are the one part of my body that hasn't really changed during my weight gain.
  • irjeffb
    irjeffb Posts: 275 Member
    Just for the record, my profile picture is really me. :)
  • doorki
    doorki Posts: 2,576 Member


    Per my grandmother: The wise old owl lived in an oak. The more he saw, the less he spoke. The less he spoke, the more he heard. Why can't we all be like that wise old bird?

    Is that the same owl that said it only took three bites to get to the center of a tootsie pop? If so, I don't count that as a credible source.
  • lickmybaconcakes
    lickmybaconcakes Posts: 1,063 Member
    Lol so many **** stirrers here , why is it such a big deal?
  • iHEARTcardiacnurses
    iHEARTcardiacnurses Posts: 437 Member


    Per my grandmother: The wise old owl lived in an oak. The more he saw, the less he spoke. The less he spoke, the more he heard. Why can't we all be like that wise old bird?

    Is that the same owl that said it only took three bites to get to the center of a tootsie pop? If so, I don't count that as a credible source.

    You know, she never actually pointed out which owl she was talking about though she was known to have quite lengthy conversations with rabbits regarding them digging up her garden. :laugh:
  • _snw_
    _snw_ Posts: 1,298 Member
    Oh you're right. So your skin looks like Beggin Strips and your hair likens to the straw matting of a guinea pig cage. Would you like me to compare anything else of yours to animal foods? Of course, some people would think that Beggin' Strips have great texture and that guinea pig straw smells wonderful, others won't. If you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all.

    Per my grandmother: The wise old owl lived in an oak. The more he saw, the less he spoke. The less he spoke, the more he heard. Why can't we all be like that wise old bird?


    hahahah. omg. i can't even begin to retort on the whole beggin strips thing. i don't even think i understand it.
  • IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym
    IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym Posts: 5,573 Member
    I work out so I can be big and strong like this guy.


    This is so not funny.
  • lickmybaconcakes
    lickmybaconcakes Posts: 1,063 Member
    I work out so I can be big and strong like this guy.


    This is so not funny.

    Agreed a little too far.
  • LordBezoar
    LordBezoar Posts: 625 Member
    My personal take on the whole thing is this:

    There are three general types of profile pics: 1. Yourself 2. Someone else 3. Something other than a person (Dog, sign, quote, food, etc.)

    Obviously, the most straightforward one is a pic of yourself. It is you, as you are. Maybe you are proud of your ripped abs or your sexy legs and you want to show them off. Maybe you are not ashamed of where you are at in your journey and you prefer to use your own photo.

    When someone puts up a photo of a celebrity or a model or a person that is not them, I assume that they are putting that up as something that they are aspiring to. A way to help them visualize what their goal is.

    The last type is a bit different. Me, for example, I use this drawing of me because one of my best friends drew it and my wife colored it for me a while back. I don't like photos of myself in general, though I do have a couple available on my profile so that people can know what I look like if they want. Then of course, there are the quote people and that is totally self explanatory.

    Where I think people took exception to your fake photo is that it was neither a photo of you nor a photo of something you are aspiring to. At best, it could be seen that you are using that photo to find out if you get the same number of FRs daily using a photo of someone that is completely not you and at worst it could be seen as a rather cruel way to poke fun at the girl. Though, to me, that end of the spectrum is a bit much--since she is the one who put herself on the internet. In any event, that is just my two cents, and I am probably over-thinking it.
  • IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym
    IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym Posts: 5,573 Member
    I had a picture of my current body as my profile pic. Nothing obsene, I took different shots of different parts of my body. It isn't pretty. I actually had someone create an account on here to send hatemail about my profile pic. It is still in my pics, but no longer my profile pic. I don't care personally what someone has chosen to represent themselves. It is a double standard, and it will probably always be one.

    Ironically - I got the most friend requests ever when I had that pic for my profile. Go figure!


    I thought it was awesome that you had that up for your inspiration and motivation.
  • _snw_
    _snw_ Posts: 1,298 Member
    you won't be the self-acclaimed attractive girl anymore


    just for the record ... i never called myself attractive. I was actually careful to word that as so. I was trying to make a generalization without having to categorize all levels of attractiveness. But I guess i knew ~someone~ would have to go for the easy "joke".

    ANNNNDDDD
    Can an attractive girl not pose as an ugly girl but an ugly girl can pose as an attractive girl?

    You did say she was "less-than-attractive" which would be a generalized comparison to yourself. If I roll my eyes any harder I'm likely to have a seizure.

    um, maybe this will help you ...

    gen·er·al·i·za·tion   /ˌdʒɛnərələˈzeɪʃən/ Show Spelled[jen-er-uh-luh-zey-shuhn] Show IPA
    noun
    1. the act or process of generalizing.
    2. a result of this process; a general statement, idea, or principle.

    with your logic, you are assuming "attractive girl" == "snw". Hrm, let's play the replace game ...
    "Can snw not pose as an ugly girl but an ugly girl can pose as snw?"

    See? Yeah. That no longer is that "generalization" thing (see above definition) I spoke to earlier.

    Let me know if you want to see some more examples. I can use pictures.
  • jcstanton
    jcstanton Posts: 1,849 Member
    It's totally different. Women use pictures of the beautiful women as an inspiration and I'm sure the beautiful women who have their pic being used as someone elses DP would take it as a compliment.

    What you did (from the sounds of it) is not anything near that. I know I would be hurt if someone used my picture as a DP because they thought it was "unattractive" and would get less friend requests. Just remember - that is an ACTUAL person you found on that Google search.

    ^^This. It depends on the motivation for using someone's pic. Are you using it in a way that's complimentary or derogatory? Did you do it because you thought she was beautiful and you want to aspire to be like her? No. By your own admission, you did it because you believed she was unattractive and would deter unwanted friend requests.
  • LordBezoar
    LordBezoar Posts: 625 Member
    It's totally different. Women use pictures of the beautiful women as an inspiration and I'm sure the beautiful women who have their pic being used as someone elses DP would take it as a compliment.

    What you did (from the sounds of it) is not anything near that. I know I would be hurt if someone used my picture as a DP because they thought it was "unattractive" and would get less friend requests. Just remember - that is an ACTUAL person you found on that Google search.

    What if she was using it as motivation to NOT look like that, then would it be the same thing?

    I will answer this with a question. Would you be hurt if I made your picture my profile picture and told others it was because this is what I do NOT want to look like.

    I think that this is the crux of the issue.
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