Carbs/Sugar don't make you fat.
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I am a firm believer that calories make you fat, regardless of where they come from.
That being said, it is much easier to overindulge on carbs because they don't fill you up as fast as poriten, even though both are 4 kcal/g.0 -
Insulin Resistance changes your metabolic rate. It doesn't change the fact that eating too much causes weight gain. It just changes the definition of "too much."Eating too much.....(more than your maintenance) regardless of macronutrient composition makes you fat. Just had to throw this out there.
well sorry, but I have proved that wrong. my Dr. backed up the findings and took them to a world wide convention on insulin resistance. hate to be the one to bust your arrogance, but not everyone is equal but enjoy your little world where you know everything.0 -
Insulin resistance is a symptom of obesity, and there are hundreds, if not thousands of causes for it, it's not just sugar and carbs.
Oh, and that link came from a Google search for Insulin Resistance. So, if you're going to tell other people to google it, you may want to take your own advice.
Insulin resistance is not only caused by obesity, I developed it as a child who was not obese at the time. I did eventually become obese after following the so called healthy diets Dr.s and profestionals put me on till I found a brillian Dr. who took time to find out the truth about insulin resistance and me.0 -
NO, it doesn't. But eating a diet high in carbs and much lower in protein for me would make muscle building and maintenance rather harder. Not everyone is trying to lose weight or stay the same...0
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Everyone’s body tolerates different foods differently. I can NOT eat the pastas, breads, and starchy things like potatoes. Just because it makes me gain weight and bloat and so on, I will not say that everyone needs to not eat them. Everyone is different and needs to find out what works for them. Don’t be ignorant!!!0
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You don't. You don't have to be overweight according to BMI to have obese levels of body fat. Insulin resistance happens when there is excess fat in the blood stream that prevents insulin receptors from receiving insulin. It can also be tracked, measured, and predicted by the amounts of free fatty acids and branched-chain amino acids in the blood stream.Then how do you get insulin resistance with the absence of obesity?
There is no clear science on all causes of insulin resistance, but you do not have to be obese by any standard to develop it. Medications, infection, illness, and stress are among things that may cause it. And there is thought to be a strong genetic factor.0 -
Eating too much.....(more than your maintenance) regardless of macronutrient composition makes you fat. Just had to throw this out there.
Seriously? Sugar... one of the main contributers to belly fat,you will rarely find someone with beautiful ABS consuming high quantities of sugar daily,added/fruits/ect. As for carbs,good carbs are needed but bad carbs will cause unwanted effects on the body in most cases.
There are lots of people on here that eat sugar/fruit/ice cream and have great abs.0 -
Insulin resistance is a symptom of obesity, and there are hundreds, if not thousands of causes for it, it's not just sugar and carbs.
Oh, and that link came from a Google search for Insulin Resistance. So, if you're going to tell other people to google it, you may want to take your own advice.
Insulin resistance is not only caused by obesity, I developed it as a child who was not obese at the time. I did eventually become obese after following the so called healthy diets Dr.s and profestionals put me on till I found a brillian Dr. who took time to find out the truth about insulin resistance and me.
I'm sorry to be a brat and point out the obvious, but with your 60+ lbs of weight loss to go and only 5 lb lost, I don't think you should be talking about what works for you.0 -
In before potential s**t storm
lol. I don't watch my sugar, I know I eat a lot. It comes from fruit and yogurt though. and *cough* the cookies0 -
People really need to understand the difference between gaining weight due to fat, and gaining weight due to water and glycogen.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, UNDERSTAND THIS.0 -
Eating too much.....(more than your maintenance) regardless of macronutrient composition makes you fat. Just had to throw this out there.
Techincally no because it's calorie in/out. But ever try to actually eat enough salad to get fat? VS donuts and potato chips?0 -
This would make sense, except high protein and high fat diets also contribute to insulin resistance.
Do yourself a favor and google "Insulin Resistance"! Carbs and sugar ABSOLUTELY DO make some people fat! Just had to throw THAT out there:)Eating too much.....(more than your maintenance) regardless of macronutrient composition makes you fat. Just had to throw this out there.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/145544.php
Insulin resistance is a symptom of obesity, and there are hundreds, if not thousands of causes for it, it's not just sugar and carbs.
Oh, and that link came from a Google search for Insulin Resistance. So, if you're going to tell other people to google it, you may want to take your own advice.
Devils Advocate here:
rats =/= humans0 -
Theoretically yes but they do mess with your metabolism and can make things more difficult.0
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Everyone’s body tolerates different foods differently. I can NOT eat the pastas, breads, and starchy things like potatoes. Just because it makes me gain weight and bloat and so on, I will not say that everyone needs to not eat them. Everyone is different and needs to find out what works for them. Don’t be ignorant!!!
i just have to comment, as this is so painful to read. guess what, the population as we know it, is like a bell curve, we are all on it, and i KNOW, everyone wants to believe that they are some sort of unique individual who processes food and energy so much more differently then the rest of us. guess what, we are all more ALIKE, than different.....0 -
Eating too much.....(more than your maintenance) regardless of macronutrient composition makes you fat. Just had to throw this out there.
Techincally no because it's calorie in/out. But ever try to actually eat enough salad to get fat? VS donuts and potato chips?
This isn't the point Im arguing......I 100% agree its harder to overeat cals eating protein than carbs...It's a struggle for me to eat 500 cals of chicken breast.........Not at all to eat 500 cals of ice cream.0 -
Devils Advocate here:
rats =/= humans
Agree on this point. I hate these tests. As much as they indicate this are not factual based on human results. They don't have the same digestive and endocrine systems. Similar, not the same.0 -
omg this changes ~*~EVERYTHING~*~0
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Eating too much.....(more than your maintenance) regardless of macronutrient composition makes you fat. Just had to throw this out there.
Techincally no because it's calorie in/out. But ever try to actually eat enough salad to get fat? VS donuts and potato chips?
UH, that's what ALOT of people do. When I worked at a restaurant I saw sooo many obese women come in and order salads thinking they were "being good"....unfortunately at our restaurant, our salads were the most calorie laden things on the menu (bacon, dressings, cheese, etc. etc. etc. ETC.).
Calorie intake is THE ONLY thing that matters with losing weight.
Sure, monitoring things like protien, sugars, processed food are important to BEING HEALTHY, but do not necessarily have to do with losing weight.
Fat is made of calories, NOT carbs/sugar.:grumble:0 -
This isn't the point Im arguing......I 100% agree its harder to overeat cals eating protein than carbs...It's a struggle for me to eat 500 cals of chicken breast.........Not at all to eat 500 cals of ice cream.
I inhale 500 cals of ice cream just walking into Cold Stone....
Damn, now I want ice cream.0 -
In before potential s**t storm
You said it....lol0 -
True, but feeding humans a diet to intentionally cause insulin resistance is kind of unethical. A quick perusal of pubmed uncovered several studies that showed very similar blood markers in diabetic and insulin resistant humans compared to the insulin resistant rats that were fed the high protein/high fat diet. While correlation =/= causation, that does give me enough evidence to comfortably state that insulin resistance is not just the fault of ZOMG! CARBS AND EVIL SUGAR MONSTERS!
This would make sense, except high protein and high fat diets also contribute to insulin resistance.
Do yourself a favor and google "Insulin Resistance"! Carbs and sugar ABSOLUTELY DO make some people fat! Just had to throw THAT out there:)Eating too much.....(more than your maintenance) regardless of macronutrient composition makes you fat. Just had to throw this out there.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/145544.php
Insulin resistance is a symptom of obesity, and there are hundreds, if not thousands of causes for it, it's not just sugar and carbs.
Oh, and that link came from a Google search for Insulin Resistance. So, if you're going to tell other people to google it, you may want to take your own advice.
Devils Advocate here:
rats =/= humans0 -
Eating too much.....(more than your maintenance) regardless of macronutrient composition makes you fat. Just had to throw this out there.
Techincally no because it's calorie in/out. But ever try to actually eat enough salad to get fat? VS donuts and potato chips?
This isn't the point Im arguing......I 100% agree its harder to overeat cals eating protein than carbs...It's a struggle for me to eat 500 cals of chicken breast.........Not at all to eat 500 cals of ice cream.
Eating 500 calories of chicken will proably make you feel fuller than eating 500 caloires of ice cream. It's not the 500 calories eaten, it's how many calories you eat until you decide not to eat anymore. Eating a plate full of broccali is more filling than a plate of chips. So in the end one eats 850 calories of chips before quitting vs 500 calories of veggies.0 -
Eating too much.....(more than your maintenance) regardless of macronutrient composition makes you fat. Just had to throw this out there.
no but it won't make you healthy either. I want to be HEALTHY too.....don't you?0 -
Everyone’s body tolerates different foods differently. I can NOT eat the pastas, breads, and starchy things like potatoes. Just because it makes me gain weight and bloat and so on, I will not say that everyone needs to not eat them. Everyone is different and needs to find out what works for them. Don’t be ignorant!!!
i just have to comment, as this is so painful to read. guess what, the population as we know it, is like a bell curve, we are all on it, and i KNOW, everyone wants to believe that they are some sort of unique individual who processes food and energy so much more differently then the rest of us. guess what, we are all more ALIKE, than different.....
??? Um okay. Then weight loss should be a snap, there should be a one size fits all plan and BAM done deal. Get real.0 -
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Eating too much.....(more than your maintenance) regardless of macronutrient composition makes you fat. Just had to throw this out there.
well sorry, but I have proved that wrong. my Dr. backed up the findings and took them to a world wide convention on insulin resistance. hate to be the one to bust your arrogance, but not everyone is equal but enjoy your little world where you know everything.
A. Your "evidence" is anecdotal. You're only talking about your own experiences. Not any data or studies that relate to anyone. You've proven nothing.
B. What doctor? What convention? Before you claim to have successfully refuted the notion that eating too much makes a person gain weight you may want to provide at least SOME information.
But if you all just want to go on insisting that it's all the fault of bread you can carry on. Tonight's pasta night for me, which I'll enjoy with a smile, as I have at least twice a week while staying under my calories and losing 85lbs.0 -
Omg I solved it!
Eating makes you fat
Sedentary lifestyles make you fat
Eating can also help you loose weight
I lost a lot of weight on a sedentary lifestyle
All those statements are contradicting and true.
The longest lived people (Okinawan) ate a lot of grains and weighed on average 94 pounds.
A obese friend of mine went paleo, ate allot of food, and lost a ton of weight and now looks fantastic and runs triathalons.
Why are people so obsessed with what is better? You can get to where you want with both.0 -
Eating too much.....(more than your maintenance) regardless of macronutrient composition makes you fat. Just had to throw this out there.
no but it won't make you healthy either. I want to be HEALTHY too.....don't you?
No, they just want to start an argument!0 -
We are saying the same thing here just in a different way....I struggle to eat 500 cals worth of chicken breasts...Thats like 3 large breasts and I am stuffed......If I ate ice cream till I was stuffed I could put away several thousand cals.Eating too much.....(more than your maintenance) regardless of macronutrient composition makes you fat. Just had to throw this out there.
Techincally no because it's calorie in/out. But ever try to actually eat enough salad to get fat? VS donuts and potato chips?
This isn't the point Im arguing......I 100% agree its harder to overeat cals eating protein than carbs...It's a struggle for me to eat 500 cals of chicken breast.........Not at all to eat 500 cals of ice cream.
Eating 500 calories of chicken will proably make you feel fuller than eating 500 caloires of ice cream. It's not the 500 calories eaten, it's how many calories you eat until you decide not to eat anymore. Eating a plate full of broccali is more filling than a plate of chips. So in the end one eats 850 calories of chips before quitting vs 500 calories of veggies.0 -
Eating too much.....(more than your maintenance) regardless of macronutrient composition makes you fat. Just had to throw this out there.
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