Detox and cleanses

rcharlee

Has anyone had good results with any detoxes or cleanses? I tried the 14 day acai berry cleanse, and I don't feel like it did much. I've been in a weight loss plateau for almost 2 months, and I'm desperately trying to continue losing. Suggestions??

chris1816

Detoxes and cleanses are bull**** and sorcery; you can put them in that order or reverse if you like. You feel like the 14 day acai berry cleanse didn't do much because well, it didn't/

You cannot and do not detoxify or cleanse yourself with what you eatl; you have two internal organs (one of which is a pair) that do this very effectively on their own. Yes you can eat healthy foods for your liver and kidneys but nothing jump starts their process other than just keeping a healthy nutritional profile.

Usually people who report success were more affected by the reduced calorie intake/change in diet, or pure mind ****ery placebo action.

Change up your diet/exercise routine?

rcharlee

Detoxes and cleanses are bull**** and sorcery; you can put them in that order or reverse if you like. You feel like the 14 day acai berry cleanse didn't do much because well, it didn't/

You cannot and do not detoxify or cleanse yourself with what you eatl; you have two internal organs (one of which is a pair) that do this very effectively on their own. Yes you can eat healthy foods for your liver and kidneys but nothing jump starts their process other than just keeping a healthy nutritional profile.

Usually people who report success were more affected by the reduced calorie intake/change in diet, or pure mind ****ery placebo action.

Change up your diet/exercise routine?

I've changed my diet and exercise routine sadly, and am just not able to get results anymore. I think it's just time to give up.

chris1816

Well are you unhealthy? or unhappy? or both?

Everyone will hit plataus, but cleanses aren't the answer. It all comes down to calories in/calories out. Your body cannot defy the laws of physics, it has to pull fuel from somehwere.

My advice would just be to stick at it. I'm coming down from 400lbs, I know I will hit plataus and I know I will. But you know what?

Calories in. Calories out.

Cleanses are for hippies and morons.

senecajo

I tried the Master Cleanse. (Syrup, Cayenne Pepper, Lemons, Water. etc.) and I LOVED it! Totally felt great, I lost 6 lbs in one week. It totally cleanses your body of wanting sugars and fats. Stuff I eat quite frequently.

LizKurz

I tried the Master Cleanse. (Syrup, Cayenne Pepper, Lemons, Water. etc.) and I LOVED it! Totally felt great, I lost 6 lbs in one week. It totally cleanses your body of wanting sugars and fats. Stuff I eat quite frequently.

To the OP:

Or, instead of drinking satans piss to try to cleanse yourself, you could not eat the above junk and won't have to rid your body of the above junk.

Or, you can be like me and eat some junk every now and then, and let your kidneys and liver do their jobs of cleaning your body of toxins.

cntilford

Don't give up. Might be time to reassess your goals and where you are currently, but don't give up eating healthy and exercising. You've come too far to give up!

medennison123

try a refeed day change your workout.

markymarrkk

I tried the Master Cleanse. (Syrup, Cayenne Pepper, Lemons, Water. etc.) and I LOVED it! Totally felt great, I lost 6 lbs in one week. It totally cleanses your body of wanting sugars and fats. Stuff I eat quite frequently.

To the OP:

Or, instead of drinking satans piss to try to cleanse yourself, you could not eat the above junk and won't have to rid your body of the above junk.

Or, you can be like me and eat some junk every now and then, and let your kidneys and liver do their jobs of cleaning your body of toxins.

"Satan's Piss" !!! HAHAHAHA, love that

PlanetVelma

I tried the Master Cleanse. (Syrup, Cayenne Pepper, Lemons, Water. etc.) and I LOVED it! Totally felt great, I lost 6 lbs in one week. It totally cleanses your body of wanting sugars and fats. Stuff I eat quite frequently.

6 lbs of fat or muscle? :indifferent:

Seriously those cleanses are whack. Try measuring yourself for awhile, change up your workouts, play with your macros, adjust your calories to maintenance for a couple weeks and then reduce by 250-500 cals....sometimes it's just a matter of finding what works for you.

Esme_32

I did the juice fast for 10 days and after I felt pretty great. The first 3 days were not so fun but after it was a breeze. I lost 7 pounds. This helped a lot: http://www.hungryforchange.tv/detox

DaveC29

I tried the Master Cleanse. (Syrup, Cayenne Pepper, Lemons, Water. etc.) and I LOVED it! Totally felt great, I lost 6 lbs in one week. It totally cleanses your body of wanting sugars and fats. Stuff I eat quite frequently.

Not sure how you attribute those ingredients to losing 6 pounds... Or mabey I wouldn't eat for a week after ingesting that either? who knows?!

Basically you are saying those ingredients burned 21000 calories (3500 x 6)? Must be some good Cayenne pepper (or water weight!)

rcharlee

I'd consider myself healthy. I eat a balanced diet, work out daily, play tennis singles competitively once a week, work a physical job part time, and take care of my 10 month old child full time. I'd say I'm happy for the most part too; I am human, and do get down sometimes, but would not consider myself unhappy.

I've tried zig zagging calories within a reasonable amount of my BMR, which is 1480; tried increasing the weight I'm utilizing in strength training; tried working out at different and multiple times a day; increased my fiber intake; increased water consumption from 8 glasses to 12. I feel like I've tried it all, but this plateau won't give!

A cleanse has been my last resort in hopes to help boost my metabolism, but like said before I don't feel like the one I did had much affect.

eriemer

I tried the Master Cleanse. (Syrup, Cayenne Pepper, Lemons, Water. etc.) and I LOVED it! Totally felt great, I lost 6 lbs in one week. It totally cleanses your body of wanting sugars and fats. Stuff I eat quite frequently.

Someone actualy did this?:noway:

eriemer

Has anyone had good results with any detoxes or cleanses? I tried the 14 day acai berry cleanse, and I don't feel like it did much. I've been in a weight loss plateau for almost 2 months, and I'm desperately trying to continue losing. Suggestions??

If you put your diet public, I'm sure several ppl could give you healthy suggestions.

chris1816

I tried the Master Cleanse. (Syrup, Cayenne Pepper, Lemons, Water. etc.) and I LOVED it! Totally felt great, I lost 6 lbs in one week. It totally cleanses your body of wanting sugars and fats. Stuff I eat quite frequently.

Absolute nonsense.

You lost weight because you fed your body the bare minimum of sugars (carbs) and kept yourself hydrated, but you didn't cleanse anything.

Sl1ghtly

I'd consider myself healthy. I eat a balanced diet, work out daily, play tennis singles competitively once a week, work a physical job part time, and take care of my 10 month old child full time. I'd say I'm happy for the most part too; I am human, and do get down sometimes, but would not consider myself unhappy.

I've tried zig zagging calories within a reasonable amount of my BMR, which is 1480; tried increasing the weight I'm utilizing in strength training; tried working out at different and multiple times a day; increased my fiber intake; increased water consumption from 8 glasses to 12. I feel like I've tried it all, but this plateau won't give!

A cleanse has been my last resort in hopes to help boost my metabolism, but like said before I don't feel like the one I did had much affect.

Plateaus are *kitten*. I think the best way to get over one is with patience. Its really easy to think the answer is to do something drastic, but in reality all you need is more time.

rcharlee

I'd consider myself healthy. I eat a balanced diet, work out daily, play tennis singles competitively once a week, work a physical job part time, and take care of my 10 month old child full time. I'd say I'm happy for the most part too; I am human, and do get down sometimes, but would not consider myself unhappy.

I've tried zig zagging calories within a reasonable amount of my BMR, which is 1480; tried increasing the weight I'm utilizing in strength training; tried working out at different and multiple times a day; increased my fiber intake; increased water consumption from 8 glasses to 12. I feel like I've tried it all, but this plateau won't give!

A cleanse has been my last resort in hopes to help boost my metabolism, but like said before I don't feel like the one I did had much affect.

Plateaus are *kitten*. I think the best way to get over one is with patience. Its really easy to think the answer is to do something drastic, but in reality all you need is more time.

Do you know how long I need to maintain patience? Come May 2nd, its 2 months of patience, and I'm running thin on it. Is 2 months of a plateau normal?

chris1816

Are you measuring body fat percentage? Are you changing body composition (losing fat but gaining lean mass). It really is near impossible that for 2 solid months of eating at a caloric deficit that you have not lost a single pound of weight.

Mind making your diary public so we can have a look and maybe give some feedback?

Sl1ghtly

I'd consider myself healthy. I eat a balanced diet, work out daily, play tennis singles competitively once a week, work a physical job part time, and take care of my 10 month old child full time. I'd say I'm happy for the most part too; I am human, and do get down sometimes, but would not consider myself unhappy.

I've tried zig zagging calories within a reasonable amount of my BMR, which is 1480; tried increasing the weight I'm utilizing in strength training; tried working out at different and multiple times a day; increased my fiber intake; increased water consumption from 8 glasses to 12. I feel like I've tried it all, but this plateau won't give!

A cleanse has been my last resort in hopes to help boost my metabolism, but like said before I don't feel like the one I did had much affect.

Plateaus are *kitten*. I think the best way to get over one is with patience. Its really easy to think the answer is to do something drastic, but in reality all you need is more time.

Do you know how long I need to maintain patience? Come May 2nd, its 2 months of patience, and I'm running thin on it. Is 2 months of a plateau normal?

I know its a pain. All i can suggest is to evaluate your energy intake and expenditure to be sure you arent incorrectly estimating something, and be sure the deficit is appropriate for you.

DominiqueSmall

I'm Starting one Wednesday by Garden of Life called the Raw detox/Cleanse. I do them every 4 months to clean out the toxins and liver. I ususally drop a couple of pounds but I don't really rely on them for weight loss just for detoxing my body.

rcharlee

Are you measuring body fat percentage? Are you changing body composition (losing fat but gaining lean mass). It really is near impossible that for 2 solid months of eating at a caloric deficit that you have not lost a single pound of weight.

Mind making your diary public so we can have a look and maybe give some feedback?

No I'm not measuring body fat percentage, and I do think I'm gaining muscle because I have dropped a pant size and in 2 weeks lost 1/2 inch off both my waist and hips. I can also see that in pictures that I do look slimmer, but my weight just won't change.

How do I make my diary public?

chris1816

It's in the settings...now, if you are losing inches, you have to keep a solid perspective on what you are experiencing.

For example, I am 400lbs, much of that is already muscle, and I am aiming to be around 285 (yes, almost 300lbs is considered healthy for me by my doctor for my height/body composition).

I am lifting weights along with cardio and a caloric deficit to preserve as much lean mass as possible while losing fat. I WILL have moments where I do not lose "weight" but I lose fat.

You have to keep perspective of that or else you will discourage yourself for no reason.

chris1816

I'm Starting one Wednesday by Garden of Life called the Raw detox/Cleanse. I do them every 4 months to clean out the toxins and liver. I ususally drop a couple of pounds but I don't really rely on them for weight loss just for detoxing my body.

Snake. Oil.

Sidesteal

I second the comments that detoxes/cleanses are basically silly.

OP: What has your average calorie intake been (not your net, your total calorie intake average) over the past 2 months and what is your total change in weight?

chris1816

Thnks for sharing the diary.

So your caloric intake looks fine most days in my opinion. Play with your nutrient intake a bit (I am a pure meat loving carnivore and I am experimenting with most eating vegetarian except for fish). Try some new stuff though, whole grains like quinoa are awesome (complete protein), good fiber, carbs, filling etc.

Now, I think your honesty is badass with logging it all but chill on the beer (this is coming from someone who can drink like a fish). That is your one and true only detox you can probably do for yourself, but I saw much of that was only this past week anyway. Drink even more water.

Try new things with your carb and protein intake and I think you may see a difference. Take in more protein, it won't hurt you even if it says you are over what you should have). Complex carbs are the way to go, quinoa, steel cut oats, sweet potatoes, strawberries, cracked wheat, almonds etc. You will feel better because those are very nutrient dense items to eat.

You look healthy, so experiment with your diet but keep it fun.


Now a note, I mention the alcohol intake but I am someone who doesn't dig "cheat days", but that is for me. I enjoy a good drink though so maybe try things like vodka, enjoy sipping straight whiskey etc? If you want to get your drink on it's a good way to go. All things in moderation etc.

season0508

Maybe you should lower your calorie intake some... Just do 1200... I feel the BMR thing they give is a little on the high side.. What I do is eat 1200 cals a day.. I work out 5 days a week burning between 400 and 600 calories depending on the day and I eat back half of those calories, and im not at all starving. It is working for me 100 percent.

rcharlee

I second the comments that detoxes/cleanses are basically silly.

OP: What has your average calorie intake been (not your net, your total calorie intake average) over the past 2 months and what is your total change in weight?

Well that's a little tricky, cuz I was breastfeeding until 2 weeks or so into March. So Through that point I'd say 1800, and after that around 1500-1600. I haven't lost any weight since the beginning of March. Between January and March I lost 14lbs though.

stovallsh

Whoever says cleanses are bunk just don't know what they're talking about. I had a TON of inflammation in my knee. Had an xray - negative. Had an MRI - negative. Tried ultrasound with a PT - negative. Did an Isagenix cleanse - no more pain, no more swelling and felt totally great. Also lost 8 lbs of fat, water, and muscle.

Everybody's body is different, so keep mixing things up to find what works for you. Good luck!

chris1816

Whoever says cleanses are bunk just don't know what they're talking about. I had a TON of inflammation in my knee. Had an xray - negative. Had an MRI - negative. Tried ultrasound with a PT - negative. Did an Isagenix cleanse - no more pain, no more swelling and felt totally great. Also lost 8 lbs of fat, water, and muscle.

Everybody's body is different, so keep mixing things up to find what works for you. Good luck!

I'm sorry, but no. You cannot defy physics, you cannot defy biology. You are not a wizard, Harry.

Changing your diet can make you feel better, can make you healthier, but there is no "toxin cleansing" unless you are smoking, drinking excessively, or doing black tar heroin then stop. That is cleansing. Drinking a mixture of generally nutrient dense, healthy foods will make you feel pretty good, but won't do that much unless you are also removing unhealthy elements you forcibly introduce.

That's not cleansing, that's being smart.

stovallsh

Perhaps chris1816 needs a little refresher course in biochemistry :laugh: