Honestly?

mes1119
mes1119 Posts: 1,082 Member
I am so over the "size fits all" mentality to weight loss. Everyone is different. Everyone gets different results from the same programs. I'm just SO sick of people thinking that "their way" is the RIGHT way. It is all about what works for you.

For me, lifting heavy isn't in the cards. I'm that crazy freak of a woman that has insane muscle mass regardless (I had muscle at the the age of 10) so losing the fat on top is all that matters. Which can be obtained by diet. I'm SO sick of people sticking down my throat that I need to lift heavy to look good. I have 20.7% BF and 106 pounds of lean body mass. Only 28 pounds of fat, and my poor diet in the past is the only reason it is there. I eat a high amount of protein and a good amount of calories and ONLY do body resistance/light weights because it works for ME.

Okay, rant is over.

What are you sick of seeing on here??1?
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  • Hickyvikki69
    Hickyvikki69 Posts: 371 Member
    im sick of ppl telling me im eating to lil when my body is full.
  • hedgiie
    hedgiie Posts: 1,226 Member
    i agree it's different for everyone,
    in general i don't like all diet hype, as each person is different, it might work for someone who wrote that diet plan but it doesn't mean that it will work for all people.
  • cannonsky
    cannonsky Posts: 850 Member
    I'm sick of the lack of respect and empathy for people on the threads when someone is different or has an opinion or experience that differs from their own. Just as there is not "one size fits all" way to lose weight, there is no "one size fits all" reason we are all on this website.
  • mes1119
    mes1119 Posts: 1,082 Member
    I'm sick of the lack of respect and empathy for people on the threads when someone is different or has an opinion or experience that differs from their own. Just as there is not "one size fits all" way to lose weight, there is no "one size fits all" reason we are all on this website.

    exactly! lately, I've notice a huge negative opinion of newbies. We were all newbies at once and didn't understand the forums, how to search, exercise calories etc. I don't understand why anyone would be mean to these people when we were in the same position as them at one point.
  • cannonsky
    cannonsky Posts: 850 Member
    I'm sick of the lack of respect and empathy for people on the threads when someone is different or has an opinion or experience that differs from their own. Just as there is not "one size fits all" way to lose weight, there is no "one size fits all" reason we are all on this website.

    exactly! lately, I've notice a huge negative opinion of newbies. We were all newbies at once and didn't understand the forums, how to search, exercise calories etc. I don't understand why anyone would be mean to these people when we were in the same position as them at one point.

    EXACTLY!!
  • TheFitHooker
    TheFitHooker Posts: 3,357 Member
    I was so thinking of making this same post! My gawd!!! It's crazy isn't it? Everyone comes in all different shapes and sizes, we're not made the same people!!!
  • royalty_mind_1me
    royalty_mind_1me Posts: 278 Member
    I'm sick of the lack of respect and empathy for people on the threads when someone is different or has an opinion or experience that differs from their own. Just as there is not "one size fits all" way to lose weight, there is no "one size fits all" reason we are all on this website.

    yes...just like when my opinion was turned around into something negative in a forum. people really have no respect but it doesnt surprise me, they just show their true character and its nasty! :frown: so sad, but know I will continue being encouraging anyhow :bigsmile:

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  • TheFitHooker
    TheFitHooker Posts: 3,357 Member
    ha, i saw your post on the other topic the stair climber one. I am thinking about writing a topic on the subject. That there is a one size fits all approach. Eat less move more.

    I see what you're saying though, just because someone lost xlbs with one method doesn't mean someone will get the same results. I am personally thinking along the lines of a plateau.

    What's funny is, and no offense to anyone at all, but I see people who have lost less then 20lbs trying to to tell people (not all just some) that their way is right. Sorry but I've lost 115.5lbs and I did it my way.
  • monty619
    monty619 Posts: 1,308 Member
    well there are some things that are "one size fits all" such as muscle hypertrophy rep ranges vs rep ranges for strength... you WILL build more skeletal muscle doing a higher rep range of 6-12 then you will doing 1-5 reps.. its relative heavyness if you want to build muscle, and muscle is the key to your success.. sets til failure got me results quick with short rest intervals 6-12 reps.
  • mznisaelaine
    mznisaelaine Posts: 2,262 Member
    Well I actually realized that some people tend to over-analyze comments/post. Its not that serious. A few of my posts/comments have been over-analyzed lately.. My posts are always just fun stuff..no need in scientifically analyzing a fun post...
  • TheFitHooker
    TheFitHooker Posts: 3,357 Member

    Well explain to me why for the past nearly 8 months I'm still going strong on a 1200 cal diet ;)
  • royalty_mind_1me
    royalty_mind_1me Posts: 278 Member

    Well explain to me why for the past nearly 8 months I'm still going strong on a 1200 cal diet ;)

    YOU GO GIRL! Me too but not that long...lol...keep it up! :flowerforyou:

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  • HeHealsMe
    HeHealsMe Posts: 174 Member
    I think that the people who have been on here the longest just get tired of re-hashing all the same questions, I.E.
    1) Do I really need to eat back my earned back calories?
    2) Why can't people spell..it's "LOSE" not "LOOSE"--O.M.G. That one get's me every time. Sometimes I just want to write a quick response and don't really care to spell check.
    ETC..

    I think there should be a required little tutorial that show's the new ppl where to look for those already answered questions..like a FAQ page, and make sure they read it.

    I do not mind helping, but I have one more person tell me how to spell, I will freak out.
    This is supposed to be fun and supportive.
    Let's all try to get along! eh?

    God Bless,
    Nicolette
  • cannonsky
    cannonsky Posts: 850 Member

    I think you're still sort of missing the point. Yes something such as strength training would ultimately make everyone look better... however.. it is not the only way to get a nice body and lose weight.

    Also, part of the whole one size fits all aspect is the fact that no everyone is comfortable doing the same exercises and finds the same workouts enjoyable. Why do something you hate? If you can find something you love to do and it helps improve your fitness no one should tell you that you are wrong.
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    Thats true.

    I tend to tell ppl to ignore cardio and lift.
    Then again I hate cardio and the lifting aspect worked well for me so its natural for me to suggest those types of things.

    I think it comes down to viability.
    Is my routine viable to your type of weight/fat loss/gain?
  • mes1119
    mes1119 Posts: 1,082 Member
    well there are some things that are "one size fits all" such as muscle hypertrophy rep ranges vs rep ranges for strength... you WILL build more skeletal muscle doing a higher rep range of 6-12 then you will doing 1-5 reps.. its relative heavyness if you want to build muscle, and muscle is the key to your success.. sets til failure got me results quick with short rest intervals 6-12 reps.

    I do agree with the biological aspects but it honestly depends on the person's goals. Like I said before, I just want to maintain muscle and lose fat, so lifting heavy isn't necessary. I'm that weird freak of nature that has muscle mass naturally. I do body resistance exercises which has been sufficient for maintaining my muscle while losing 17 pounds of fat. Some people build muscle easier/not as easier as others.

    OH (not related to your post), and most people come from different situations. There is a HUGE difference between someone that has been sedentary all their life and someone that has been athlete all their life that let themselves go.
  • arojas1227
    arojas1227 Posts: 56 Member
    I agree! People get so passionate about converting everyone else to their exercise regimen. Who cares?! It's different for everyone, plus the 1200 calorie debate that's always going on. So much misinformation involved in that...
  • brookepenni
    brookepenni Posts: 787 Member

    Well explain to me why for the past nearly 8 months I'm still going strong on a 1200 cal diet ;)

    Firstly... I'm on your side - just want to make that clear.....

    What I wanted to say is - wait for all the people who will tell you you'll just put all the weight back on and youre losing lean muscle , and you dont have enough fuel for your body and your probably killing your brain and blah blah...

    It's the same thing I get told, despite the fact I lift heavy (when I do) and I have enough energy to run a half marathon and 30kms each week - all fine with no problems!!!!
  • cannonsky
    cannonsky Posts: 850 Member
    Thats true.

    I tend to tell ppl to ignore cardio and lift.
    Then again I hate cardio and the lifting aspect worked well for me so its natural for me to suggest those types of things.

    I think it comes down to viability.
    Is my routine viable to your type of weight/fat loss/gain?

    I appreciate how rational you are being. It's refreshing
  • BronnersHarris
    BronnersHarris Posts: 247 Member
    I think a lot of people on here remind me of ex-smokers. You know the types that once they quit they try and convince everyone to do the same, and go on and on about how bad smoking is? (I did used to smoke lol)

    It seems that people are so excited with their progress they want to share their information with the rest as if it's the only way anyone can get results. And lets be honest, with how much new information comes out all the time, things are constantly changing and people are always SURE that their facts are right. I agree with you, you need to find what works for you.

    I do find it amazing how quickly people are to shoot people down with fad diets - fair enough, they aren't great but with how much info is out there about them I can honestly see why people would join a site like this thinking that is something that should be done. No one is born with the knowledge and I can be pretty sure most people who are now spouting all the 'facts' came on to the site as clueless as the rest of us.
  • BAHBOOK2012
    BAHBOOK2012 Posts: 11
    It's easy to agree with what is said re muscle building assist in reducing or rather burning fat as it allows the body to exercise faster and for longer which means stronger which in the end burns fat - thus protein in the diet is a must.
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member

    Well explain to me why for the past nearly 8 months I'm still going strong on a 1200 cal diet ;)

    Depends on your view of success.
    If weight loss is success for you then great!
    The majority of people who eat low cals without thinking about age, height and body fat, end up losing more lean mass than whats necessary.
    To me success is losing fat and maintaining lean mass or most of the lean mass.
    Its about feeding the basal metabolic needs first, then fueling for any types of training.

    Let me ask you this:

    If you diet down to your perfect weight, dropping from say 40% Body Fat to 25% body fat, but still have that skinny-fat look....
    How long will it take you to recomp the fat down while building up the lean mass?

    Probably the same amount of time it would have taken if you took a slower steadier fat loss program as opposed to a weight loss program.

    Congrats on your success thus far but setting your sights on the long term goal and taking a slower approach has shown to work better in the long run with less chance of bounce back.

    Food for thought...literally!
  • monty619
    monty619 Posts: 1,308 Member
    well there are some things that are "one size fits all" such as muscle hypertrophy rep ranges vs rep ranges for strength... you WILL build more skeletal muscle doing a higher rep range of 6-12 then you will doing 1-5 reps.. its relative heavyness if you want to build muscle, and muscle is the key to your success.. sets til failure got me results quick with short rest intervals 6-12 reps.

    I do agree with the biological aspects but it honestly depends on the person's goals. Like I said before, I just want to maintain muscle and lose fat. I do body resistance exercises which has been sufficient for maintaining my muscle while losing 17 pounds of fat.

    OH (not related to your post), and most people come from different situations. There is a HUGE difference between someone that has been sedentary all their life and someone that has been athlete all their life that let themselves go.
    wuts do you mean by the last comment tho? you can always learn how to lift weights or do calisthenics.
  • mes1119
    mes1119 Posts: 1,082 Member

    Well explain to me why for the past nearly 8 months I'm still going strong on a 1200 cal diet ;)

    Depends on your view of success.
    If weight loss is success for you then great!
    The majority of people who eat low cals without thinking about age, height and body fat, end up losing more lean mass than whats necessary.
    To me success is losing fat and maintaining lean mass or most of the lean mass.
    Its about feeding the basal metabolic needs first, then fueling for any types of training.

    Let me ask you this:

    If you diet down to your perfect weight, dropping from say 40% Body Fat to 25% body fat, but still have that skinny-fat look....
    How long will it take you to recomp the fat down while building up the lean mass?

    Probably the same amount of time it would have taken if you took a slower steadier fat loss program as opposed to a weight loss program.

    Congrats on your success thus far but setting your sights on the long term goal and taking a slower approach has shown to work better in the long run with less chance of bounce back.

    Food for thought...literally!

    people like you are the reason that I made this post.

    not trying to be mean, but when someone doesn't ask for advice, don't give it.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    I'm really really sick of people giving really impractical advice to people. Like when someone writes a post about how they've just decided to make some lifestyle changes and they want to figure out how to make better food choices at the restaurants they already go to because they don't have time/don't know how to cook...and people tell them the only way they're going to be successful is to adapt paleo clean eating and learn how to cook!!! WTF? That advice is going to make the person feel bad and not help them adapt to a healthier lifestyle they can live with!

    Same thing happens with exercise. People are so extremist! You'll have someone ask how to start exercising because they are really out of shape, and people will tell them some complicated weightlifting regimen and HIIT. When the person was looking for how to get 30 mins of walking in...

    Edit: I reread my post and am fully aware that my writing here is poor. I'm also sick of the grammar police so I'm not going to edit it.
  • mes1119
    mes1119 Posts: 1,082 Member
    well there are some things that are "one size fits all" such as muscle hypertrophy rep ranges vs rep ranges for strength... you WILL build more skeletal muscle doing a higher rep range of 6-12 then you will doing 1-5 reps.. its relative heavyness if you want to build muscle, and muscle is the key to your success.. sets til failure got me results quick with short rest intervals 6-12 reps.

    I do agree with the biological aspects but it honestly depends on the person's goals. Like I said before, I just want to maintain muscle and lose fat. I do body resistance exercises which has been sufficient for maintaining my muscle while losing 17 pounds of fat.

    OH (not related to your post), and most people come from different situations. There is a HUGE difference between someone that has been sedentary all their life and someone that has been athlete all their life that let themselves go.
    wuts do you mean by the last comment tho? you can always learn how to lift weights or do calisthenics.

    true. but personally most of MY muscle mass came from competitive swimming and when I gained weight the muscle never went away. I just had to learn how to eat healthy to lose the fat on top of the muscle. I wasn't out of shape long enough for my muscle to waste away. those that are sedentary their whole life probably don't develop this muscle mass.

    I guess I'm trying to say that those that are in sports all their life have a higher chance of having a base amount of muscle and fitness than those that have never been active. but like I said before, that is very variable.
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member

    Well explain to me why for the past nearly 8 months I'm still going strong on a 1200 cal diet ;)

    Firstly... I'm on your side - just want to make that clear.....

    What I wanted to say is - wait for all the people who will tell you you'll just put all the weight back on and youre losing lean muscle , and you dont have enough fuel for your body and your probably killing your brain and blah blah...

    It's the same thing I get told, despite the fact I lift heavy (when I do) and I have enough energy to run a half marathon and 30kms each week - all fine with no problems!!!!

    Oh and don't forget Helloitsdan rarely actually reads the questions.... He just posts the same 3 variances on the same response everytime.... Yesterday someone posted a comment asking about scales that measure body fat and he jumped on going on about how bad the BMI is.... Didn't even read the question! I think Helloitsdan needs a reality check!


    Lol

    I'm looking to buy a gun to defend my house.
    I was thinking of a Civil War Musket!
    You know the type?
    Fire a shot then take 35 seconds to reload?

    Thats where the BMI is now in my opinion.
    Its a term that ppl throw around because they think its important but it has nothing to do with actual body composition.
    It's useless.
    So why buy a scale that offers useless information?

    That was my point.

    Please direct any bashing to my PM box for the future.

    If you would like a Helloitsdan reality check, I can point you to over 200 people losing weight with my help.

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  • monty619
    monty619 Posts: 1,308 Member
    @mess but dont you ever have a concern about trying to raise your metabolic rate?
  • CalJur
    CalJur Posts: 627 Member
    AMEN! Preach.