Does eating Organic make you a jerk?

Hootowlhollow

People that eat organic do it for the status. There is absolutely no difference between organic and Conventional crops and food. Except maybe the organic has more e-coli. I wish people that were passionate about Organic foods would go out and actually see how they grow organic foods. Opened my eyes for sure.

lemasney

I'd rather be a jerk than eat pesticides. Call me Mr. Jerk.

wbgolden

I eat organic. I don't think I'm a jerk.

I DO think I'm better than people that don't eat organic, and I remind them of it constantly.

But I'm definitely not a jerk.

ironanimal

I'm assuming they are uninformed and gullible about the "saving the planet"! The Go Green everything by scaring people. I don't know. I didn't care to ask the guy.

I don't eat organic, nor care to, but I don't care what other people eat. That's their choice.

Change the word "uniformed" to "rational" and "gullible" to "not a caveman" and you're probably spot-on.

So, people that disagree with your particular point of view are irrational cavemen?

Wilson336

I'm a firm believer that you can eat what you want....It's trying to act superior and push your views onto others that would make you a jerk. If you want to eat birdseed and tofu all day long, go for it...just don't condemn me because I like to eat a blueberry Eggo and Nutella sandwich.

quixoteQ

I'm assuming they are uninformed and gullible about the "saving the planet"! The Go Green everything by scaring people. I don't know. I didn't care to ask the guy.

I don't eat organic, nor care to, but I don't care what other people eat. That's their choice.

Change the word "uniformed" to "rational" and "gullible" to "not a caveman" and you're probably spot-on.

So, people that disagree with your particular point of view are irrational cavemen?

If you had read the entire thread, you would have seen I was responding to an offensive poster calling all liberal-minded people gullible and uninformed, which is a great example of stereotyping . . . if that's what you were looking for.

plantgrrl

EXACTLY!

Blaqk19

I would eat organic if I could afford to. I do run into a lot of snide remarks and sneers when my organic eating friends see me eating non organic foods, though not ALL of my organic eating friends are that way. Some people are just jerks in general, lol.

ironanimal

I'm assuming they are uninformed and gullible about the "saving the planet"! The Go Green everything by scaring people. I don't know. I didn't care to ask the guy.

I don't eat organic, nor care to, but I don't care what other people eat. That's their choice.

Change the word "uniformed" to "rational" and "gullible" to "not a caveman" and you're probably spot-on.

So, people that disagree with your particular point of view are irrational cavemen?

If you had read the entire thread, you would have seen I was responding to an offensive poster calling all liberal-minded people gullible and uninformed, which is a great example of stereotyping . . . if that's what you were looking for.

No, I'm just encouraging further discussion. I disagree with the principles of the green initiative, to give it a name, because global warming is a naturally occuring phenomenon. I don't really care what anyone else thinks and therein lies my point. There are infinite viewpoints on the issue and to label any one of them semi-insultingly shows a level of closed-mindedness you profess against.

plantgrrl

Hey Coach...do we really have to go Lib/Dem on this issue? I feel like that's just more unnecessary polarization...I bet their are so snobbish conservative republicans who eat organic too. I don't think it's all about politics. Also, I've always thought it funny that Al Gore got a Nobel, but that his movie had quite a few exaggerations in it. I do believe in global warming, but it was a bit much.

kb_CG_wife

That is one of the dumbest articles I've ever read. I have family members who eat entirely organic and would give you the shirt off their back or drop what ever they are doing to help. I dislike the article

quixoteQ

No, I'm just encouraging further discussion. I disagree with the principles of the green initiative, to give it a name, because global warming is a naturally occuring phenomenon. I don't really care what anyone else thinks and therein lies my point. There are infinite viewpoints on the issue and to label any one of them semi-insultingly shows a level of closed-mindedness you profess against.

Well, this was my point. A great way to discourage any kind of discourse is to open by saying "those who disagree with me are ignorant and gullible." When someone says something like this to me, I immediately understand that he isn't capable of having a rational discussion.

Now, if he had opened with the statement, " I disagree with the principles of the green initiative, to give it a name, because global warming is a naturally occuring phenomenon" I would have known he had a willingness and a capacity to debate a complex subject (even if he was wrong: global warming may be a naturally occurring phenomenon, but the issue is whether or not human beings are capable of either increasing or decreasing the rate of the warming).

chicpeach

Eating organic is more of an indicator that you believe what the government is feeding you about "saving the planet". In other words, probably an Al Gore lover, a liberal and a democrat.

Awfully presumptuous, and as someone who has a big interest in nutrition, I'd say it's a bit small minded and uninformed as well.

CocoaBeautiful78

Not even going to read that. Eating organic makes you lucky enough to be able to afford it and smart enough to know that less chemicals in your food is better for you.

I agree. I'm not gonna read it either. I wish I had the money to eat all organic. More power to those who do as long as they don't hold their noses in the air about it they are fine.

WifeNMama

I eat organic. I don't think I'm a jerk.

I DO think I'm better than people that don't eat organic, and I remind them of it constantly.

But I'm definitely not a jerk.

Why would you even associate with non-organics? Note to self, trim the friend list... :-P

jenniferg83

I think some people are jerks organic eating or not and vice versa. I really think it's sad that they did a whole article on this. Why not just see the benefits of eating organic? Why not focus on the food itself?

wewon

I eat organic. I don't think I'm a jerk.

I DO think I'm better than people that don't eat organic, and I remind them of it constantly.

But I'm definitely not a jerk.

:laugh:

mrmanmeat

Wow.. you have got to be kidding me. The things our tax money probaby go to that we have no idea about. Like why is a frog's skin bumpy and why does poop stink? Geez some people are idiots!!!

As a researcher trained, in psychology, I'm a bit offended by your tone....its almost as bad as the organic people referred to in the article. Nowhere in that article does it say that the study was funded by any federal agency, so why do you assume that your tax money paid for it. Wow back at cha!

Offended? Come on. No need to blow it out of proportion.

gemiwing

People that eat organic do it for the status. There is absolutely no difference between organic and Conventional crops and food. Except maybe the organic has more e-coli. I wish people that were passionate about Organic foods would go out and actually see how they grow organic foods. Opened my eyes for sure.

I don't agree with the 'no difference' part but I absolutely agree that if more people saw what is considered 'organic' farming they would be surprised to find it remarkably similar to non-organic. Similar enough that the price tag for organic food isn't always justified.

honeysprinkles

The organic people were shown healthy foods, like apples and spinach, whereas the other groups were shown comfort foods or neutral foods. How can they be sure that the difference was not just linked to the foods themselves being healthier and not necessarily organic?

I'm also not sure what "showing people" food proves about people who regularly chose to buy organic. The set up seems odd to me.

tryinghard71

Not even going to read that. Eating organic makes you lucky enough to be able to afford it and smart enough to know that less chemicals in your food is better for you.

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ATOLLIT

Please don't jump all over me but I believe there may be some truth to that. Not necessarily that eating organic makes you a jerk, but I think many people who are already jerks are drawn to eating organic, for little or no other reason than self-righteousness. It's really the thing I don't like about shopping at Whole Foods, where I usually encounter a nasty jerk or two. Having said that, I think there are many nice and thoughtful people, like myself and many of you, who eat organic because they understand the benefits, and as another commenter said, are lucky enough to afford it.

^^^^ This. Self righteous people are drawn to things they can be self righteous about. That and it's a perception issue. People who are boring *kitten* about eating organic spend a lot of time drawing attention to the fact that they eat organic. People who aren't boring *kitten* don't draw attention to themselves.

These 2 comments were my exact thoughts on reading this post. I didn't actually read the article, but maybe the only people who signed up to their study were the self-righteous ones who wanted to brag about eating organic.

If they really did only show people pictures of organic foods as someone mentioned, then it reminds me of a study I read about where they concluded that women with successful careers only have successful careers because they are afraid they aren't attractive enough to get a husband. They deduced this by showing career-women and housewives photos of families, attractive men and children and studying their responses to photos...

I have no problem with real studies and promoting education, but some of them just seem like such a load of twoddle.

Or they are just really badly reported and have a lot more scientific basis than it lets on.

maricash

I have no problem with real studies and promoting education, but some of them just seem like such a load of twoddle.

Or they are just really badly reported and have a lot more scientific basis than it lets on.

A lot of science reporting is terrible. There is some great stuff out there, but you're not going to find it on the Today show or a general interest news site. The "reporters" tend to just grab for a sensationalist description of a study or to declare a result that isn't actually there. It is unfortunate, as it leads to real misunderstandings about how and why science is done, which leads to a lot of misinformation about important scientific issues.

jenj1313

Which came first, the jerk or the free-range-pesticide-free-organic-brown-egg??

wolfi622

People that eat organic do it for the status. There is absolutely no difference between organic and Conventional crops and food. Except maybe the organic has more e-coli. I wish people that were passionate about Organic foods would go out and actually see how they grow organic foods. Opened my eyes for sure.

Yup

wolfi622

I have no problem with real studies and promoting education, but some of them just seem like such a load of twoddle.

Or they are just really badly reported and have a lot more scientific basis than it lets on.

A lot of science reporting is terrible. There is some great stuff out there, but you're not going to find it on the Today show or a general interest news site. The "reporters" tend to just grab for a sensationalist description of a study or to declare a result that isn't actually there. It is unfortunate, as it leads to real misunderstandings about how and why science is done, which leads to a lot of misinformation about important scientific issues.

Exactly. It's particularly bad when it's a medical story. They usually get it profoundly wrong, sometimes even reporting the opposite of what the research actually showed.

victoria4321

People that eat organic do it for the status. There is absolutely no difference between organic and Conventional crops and food. Except maybe the organic has more e-coli. I wish people that were passionate about Organic foods would go out and actually see how they grow organic foods. Opened my eyes for sure.

Yup

What about organic free range and grass fed meats? There's definitely a big taste difference in red meats and dairy I'd say at least.

Actually, now that I think about it, its not even labeled USDA organic so I'm not sure if it counts.

Hootowlhollow

there is an organic beef processor in a local town. The animals are so thin. I feel really sad for them. They won't even give them medicine when they get sick. At this point who cares if it's organic or not. DOn't make the animals suffer just for more profit.

ATOLLIT

I have no problem with real studies and promoting education, but some of them just seem like such a load of twoddle.

Or they are just really badly reported and have a lot more scientific basis than it lets on.

A lot of science reporting is terrible. There is some great stuff out there, but you're not going to find it on the Today show or a general interest news site. The "reporters" tend to just grab for a sensationalist description of a study or to declare a result that isn't actually there. It is unfortunate, as it leads to real misunderstandings about how and why science is done, which leads to a lot of misinformation about important scientific issues.

Exactly. It's particularly bad when it's a medical story. They usually get it profoundly wrong, sometimes even reporting the opposite of what the research actually showed.

Yeah I know, it is awful. It's amazing how you can change the findings of an entire study by taking a tiny bit of data and extrapolating it to cover the whole country!


Something about the actual organic food: in the UK, I would buy organic meat ALL the time if I could afford it, but I'm a poor student so I buy organic eggs and free-range meat if it's not too extortionate. But that's because there is such a huge difference in the animal welfare - organic farmers are tightly regulated in the treatment of their animals, and the poor chickens actually get to see daylight if they belong to an organic farm! As for veggies, I don't think it's worth the money, if you wash them before you eat them, who cares what fertiliser they had? :P and veggies don't get badly treated by their owners!

unsuspectingfish

People that eat organic do it for the status. There is absolutely no difference between organic and Conventional crops and food. Except maybe the organic has more e-coli. I wish people that were passionate about Organic foods would go out and actually see how they grow organic foods. Opened my eyes for sure.

I don't know what crops you're talking about, but I grew up in the apple business, and there is definitely a difference between how conventional and organic crops are grown. There's a lot less of a difference now than there used to be, as a lot of farmers are moving toward more preventative pest control measures, as opposed to pesticides, but there's still a difference. For one, there are are limits on the types of nutrients they can put back into the soil on organic crops, which is why most organic fruits come out smaller. Organic also strips the topsoil because of these regulations, and is more susceptible to pests, as a better fed tree is more capable of fighting off pests by itself.