Does your 8 glasses of water have to be water??!
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The latest recommendations from the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Science, Dietary Reference Intake for Electrolytes and Water say -
"The fluids consumed do not have to be only water. Individuals can obtain their fluids from a variety of beverages and foods. Contrary to popular opinion, consumers do not need to consume "eight glasses of water a day" to meet their fluid needs.”0 -
I agree with steve1686.....Tea and coffee, while they are liquids...are also diuretics....You can actually become dehydrated by drinking coffee/tea all day
Gerry0 -
I find it amazing that people will answer questions when they truly have no idea what the correct answer is.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/caffeinated-drinks/AN01661
Caffeine: Is it dehydrating or not?
I've been seeing ads that say cola and coffee drinks hydrate you as well as water does. Is this true?
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from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.
It is true. Researchers used to believe that caffeinated drinks had a diuretic effect. This means that you would urinate more after drinking them, which could increase your risk of becoming dehydrated. Recent research shows that this is not true and that caffeine has a diuretic effect only if you consume large amounts of it — more than 500 to 600 milligrams (the equivalent of 5 to 7 cups of coffee) a day.
Still, caffeinated drinks can make you jittery, sleepless or anxious. Water is probably your best bet to stay hydrated. It's calorie-free, caffeine-free, inexpensive and readily available.0 -
I agree with steve1686.....Tea and coffee, while they are liquids...are also diuretics....You can actually become dehydrated by drinking coffee/tea all day
Gerry
No this is not true - the actual fluid you drink with the coffee and tea provides you with significantly more fluids than the actual diuretic effect of caffeine.0 -
WATER = WATER = WATER! :drinker:
Artificial flavoring, colors, tea, unsweetened or not is NOT Water.:sad:
Tea, coffee, wine, juice = LIQUID
And some are dehydrating = drink MORE PLAIN WATER
A doctor told me years ago that we don't wash our clothes in tea, right?!!
Same applies here..........
WATER = WATER = WATER! :drinker: :flowerforyou:
Water may be water, but it is not the only thing that you can count as fluid intake which is the point of the question.0 -
I agree with most of what you said, except that coffee has some health benefits that plain water doesn't have (e.g prevent cancer, Parkinson's, diabetes) so unless a person has some negative side effects there is no real reason to chose water over coffee.I find it amazing that people will answer questions when they truly have no idea what the correct answer is.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/caffeinated-drinks/AN01661
Caffeine: Is it dehydrating or not?
I've been seeing ads that say cola and coffee drinks hydrate you as well as water does. Is this true?
Answer
from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.
It is true. Researchers used to believe that caffeinated drinks had a diuretic effect. This means that you would urinate more after drinking them, which could increase your risk of becoming dehydrated. Recent research shows that this is not true and that caffeine has a diuretic effect only if you consume large amounts of it — more than 500 to 600 milligrams (the equivalent of 5 to 7 cups of coffee) a day.
Still, caffeinated drinks can make you jittery, sleepless or anxious. Water is probably your best bet to stay hydrated. It's calorie-free, caffeine-free, inexpensive and readily available.0 -
Some people find it easier to restrict themselves to hard and fast rules that others make for them, ie. water is water, tea is tea. Whatever. It's all hydrating, which is, actually, the point.
If I'm drinking water, I usually get in two or three cups, since that is what my body tells me it needs. However, if I'm drinking water with decaffeinated, flavored, tea bags dunked in it, I usually get about 8 - 12 cups, since it tastes yummy and helps keep me full.
Hydration needs are different for all individuals. Scientific American puts it well:
"The [Food and Nutrition] Board, [now part of the National Academy of Sciences's Institute of Medicine] revisited the question of water consumption in 2004. Its panel on 'dietary preference intakes for electrolytes and water' noted that women who appear adequately hydrated consume about 91 ounces (2.7 liters) of water a day and men about 125 ounces (3.7 liters). These seemingly large quantities come from a variety of sources—including coffee, tea, milk, soda, juice, fruits, vegetables and other foods. Instead of recommending how much extra water a person should drink to maintain health, the panel simply concluded that "the vast majority of healthy people adequately meet their daily hydration needs by letting thirst be their guide...
"Water requirements depend so much on outside temperature, activity levels and other factors that there isn't one rule that fits everybody... So how much water should you drink? Here's their advice: If you have specific medical concerns, talk to your doctor. But if you are healthy, Rolls recommends that you "have a beverage with meals and drink when you are thirsty.
"In other words, heed your thirst signals, enjoy that watermelon, and stop feeling guilty for not guzzling those extra glasses."
~ Scientific American
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=eight-glasses-water-per-day
^^this
Emphasis on the word "beverage" in the last sentence of the penultimate paragraph - beverage, not water.0 -
I agree with most of what you said, except that coffee has some health benefits that plain water doesn't have (e.g prevent cancer, Parkinson's, diabetes) so unless a person has some negative side effects there is no real reason to chose water over coffee.I find it amazing that people will answer questions when they truly have no idea what the correct answer is.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/caffeinated-drinks/AN01661
Caffeine: Is it dehydrating or not?
I've been seeing ads that say cola and coffee drinks hydrate you as well as water does. Is this true?
Answer
from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.
It is true. Researchers used to believe that caffeinated drinks had a diuretic effect. This means that you would urinate more after drinking them, which could increase your risk of becoming dehydrated. Recent research shows that this is not true and that caffeine has a diuretic effect only if you consume large amounts of it — more than 500 to 600 milligrams (the equivalent of 5 to 7 cups of coffee) a day.
Still, caffeinated drinks can make you jittery, sleepless or anxious. Water is probably your best bet to stay hydrated. It's calorie-free, caffeine-free, inexpensive and readily available.
That wasn't me, that was the Mayo Clinic. But you bring up a good point. Coffee and tea both have health benefits that water does not. ~Drink up~0 -
You're right, I should have said what you had posted not said.
I agree with most of what you said, except that coffee has some health benefits that plain water doesn't have (e.g prevent cancer, Parkinson's, diabetes) so unless a person has some negative side effects there is no real reason to chose water over coffee.I find it amazing that people will answer questions when they truly have no idea what the correct answer is.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/caffeinated-drinks/AN01661
Caffeine: Is it dehydrating or not?
I've been seeing ads that say cola and coffee drinks hydrate you as well as water does. Is this true?
Answer
from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.
It is true. Researchers used to believe that caffeinated drinks had a diuretic effect. This means that you would urinate more after drinking them, which could increase your risk of becoming dehydrated. Recent research shows that this is not true and that caffeine has a diuretic effect only if you consume large amounts of it — more than 500 to 600 milligrams (the equivalent of 5 to 7 cups of coffee) a day.
Still, caffeinated drinks can make you jittery, sleepless or anxious. Water is probably your best bet to stay hydrated. It's calorie-free, caffeine-free, inexpensive and readily available.
That wasn't me, that was the Mayo Clinic. But you bring up a good point. Coffee and tea both have health benefits that water does not. ~Drink up~
(Now when I read my reply, it's sounds like I could be sarcastic, but really not meant to be
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Other stuff helps keep you hydrated but not as well as water. Nothing works like water. 8 glasses should be the MIN ammount but you would do good drinking more. If I drink 12-15 cups a day I feel dehydrated. I think 18-20 is good for me but you have to find what feels good for you. :drinker:0
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MFP has a water intake counter because most people don't think about their water intake and this helps (just like it helps people track what they are putting in their mouth by tracking calories)
BUT as all the posts from mayoclinic etc show, there are plenty of ways to hydrate your body and get the recommended water intake every day. You don't need 8 glasses of water.0 -
Water intake needs to be WATER INTAKE. If this was negotiable, the little ticker thingy would read "liquid consumption" instead of "water consumption." Not to be too blunt, but, suck it up and drink the water. How important is this to you?
blessings,
sam
I agree with this and even I have trouble making my goal sometimes.0 -
why doesnt unsweetened tea count? lets say you took the tea leaves and put them into a salad instead and ate the salad and also drank the water you were going to use for tea. you are still consuming the tea and water but separately. would that water count?0
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okay.. water is water.. as long as you have 2 litres of liquid a day it is okay.. what ever it is! it makes up the liquid that you drink!!
tea. coffee or coke its all liquid
if your a big coffee drinker then the caffeine in the coffee wont dehydrate you because your body has gotten use to the effects so it wouldn't have the same effects on your body0 -
I count tea or coffee that is decaffeinated as a cup of water (as long as it's 8 oz, of course). I don't count sodas that are without caffeine as water though.
It gets a little boring drinking just water. I don't know about counting vegetables as that though.0 -
So long as the 'dilutable squash' is diluted with 8 glasses of water, then yes :P
^^^ this xD0 -
i count water bubbly or still, tea (if it is unsweetened and low in caffeine (green, white or herbal), "flavored" water (floating fruit, herbs or spritz of juice, drink tablets).
Not on my list: soda, coffee, milk, undiluted juice.0 -
No! It can be in soup, any beverage (including coffee and/or tea with caffeine!!) ,yogurt, fruit, smoothies, fruit bars, popsicles, oatmeal, anything with liquid and anything you add liquid to. (That's what my Dr. told me) It's also 8 8ounce cups of water, more like an 'on the rocks' or juice glass, not 8 huge glasses or bottles of water.
Per my Dr., I judge my intake by the color of my pee. If it's light colored or clear, all is good. If it's dark, I drink more. You want it to be clear or you are at higher risk of getting kidney stones and they arent fun! Also, if you work out and sweat a lot you may want to make sure you stay hydrated.
If you're having problems drinking enough, try what I do. I drink 8oz of something with my morning vitamin, 8 oz with my oatmeal, 8oz with a snack, 8oz or more with lunch, 8oz more with another snack and 8 with dinner and if I snack yet again, 8 more later on. If I still need more, I'll drink a glass of diet koolaid or whatever before I go to bed. After you do this for a while you don't even think about it anymore.0 -
CRYSTAL LIGHT is my BFF!0
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I only count actual water consumption. I keep a bottle with me at all times when I'm in the office and DRINK, DRINK, DRINK!!! 2 weeks - no soda!!! GO me!!!! lol
I am also two weeks soda free! Congrats to both of us. I raise my glass of water to you 0 -
OMG everytime this comes up I just want to scream.
NO it does not have to be plain water. ANY fluid counts toward your daily.
If it has calories, you need to track it in your food journal too -- thats the only difference.
I haven't drank a plain glass of water in years... I don't like it and I'm not going to force it down.
I haven't dropped dead yet, go figure.
How much water a day? (By the Mayo Clinic) - http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283
http://www.divinecaroline.com/22178/46361-coffee-makes-dehydrated-say-what
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/drinking-enough-water-topic-overview
http://www.livestrong.com/article/466085-can-you-substiture-green-tea-for-the-8-glasses-of-water-a-day/
"Eight 8-ounce glasses of water a day. Another approach to water intake is the "8 x 8 rule" — drink eight 8-ounce glasses of water a day (about 1.9 liters). The rule could also be stated, "Drink eight 8-ounce glasses of fluid a day," as all fluids count toward the daily total. Although the approach really isn't supported by scientific evidence, many people use this easy-to-remember rule as a guideline for how much water and other fluids to drink."0 -
this^. unsweetened iced tea isnt WATER. water with lemon or those crystal light packets/mio can be put in your water to sweeten it a bit and its still considered your water intake though. water is really important so you should make sure you get 8 or more glasses a day..
Not trying to be sarcastic or anything, but how can you say that adding those crystal light packets can still be considered water when I believe they either have low calories or are artifically sweetened? Unsweetened iced tea is calorie free.0 -
You need plain water for many reasons. Will you drop dead if you drink 8 glasses of soda probably not, but you will probably have body odor especially women (vaginal odor), bad skin, slowed digestion which equals slower weight loss, unhealthy hair. I can look at people and tell when they don't drink water, their skin and hair has a dullness. If diet Pepsi and Iced Tea works for you great, but I'll stick to my water, crystal light, and occasional diet ginger ale.0
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So I have a question.... If I drink the glass of water, and then 5 minutes later eat the packet of drink mix, does that negate the effect of drinking my glass of water??? Or is there a lag time.... I guess I gotta stop sucking on tea bags too. and drink my water completely seperate from any food. In fact.... lets just stop eating all together. It might ruin my water consumption...0
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If you are talking purely about hydration, then pretty much any beverage will hydrate you to some extent. It is a complete myth that caffeinated beverages causes a net loss in hydration. Water is probably the best choice, but it isn't the only choice. If pure water was required for my body, I would have been dead years ago. Before I gave up soda, I would go months without drinking a glass of water.0
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So I have a question.... If I drink the glass of water, and then 5 minutes later eat the packet of drink mix, does that negate the effect of drinking my glass of water??? Or is there a lag time.... I guess I gotta stop sucking on tea bags too. and drink my water completely seperate from any food. In fact.... lets just stop eating all together. It might ruin my water consumption...
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You need plain water for many reasons. Will you drop dead if you drink 8 glasses of soda probably not, but you will probably have body odor especially women (vaginal odor), bad skin, slowed digestion which equals slower weight loss, unhealthy hair. I can look at people and tell when they don't drink water, their skin and hair has a dullness. If diet Pepsi and Iced Tea works for you great, but I'll stick to my water, crystal light, and occasional diet ginger ale.
How is your crystal light any healthier than Iced Tea? Iced tea is a tea bag brewed in water and ice added to it. While crystal light contains horrible chemicals. Some flavors of Crystal Light contain aspartame, one of the most dangerous artificial sweeteners. Side effects of aspartame include headaches, anxiety, abdominal pain, nausea, heart palpitations and irritable bowel syndrome. Acesulfame potassium is another artificial sweetener used in some Crystal Light varieties. This sweetener contains methylene chloride, which is a known carcinogen. Therefore, long-term use of this carcinogen may cause cancer. Other side effects include nausea, headaches and impaired liver.
Source: http://www.livestrong.com/article/413874-what-are-the-ingredients-of-crystal-light/#ixzz1vZ10suX2
Are you aware that diet ginger ale is also soda? Here's the list of ingredients: Water Carbonated Citric Acid, Flavor(s) Natural, Sodium Citrate, Sodium Benzoate, Malic Acid, Aspartame, Caramel Color.
Source: http://www.foodfacts.com/NutritionFacts/Ginger-Ale/Canada-Dry-Diet-Ginger-Ale-20-fl-oz/47843
Folks, before you try to preach.... please read!0 -
You need plain water for many reasons. Will you drop dead if you drink 8 glasses of soda probably not, but you will probably have body odor especially women (vaginal odor), bad skin, slowed digestion which equals slower weight loss, unhealthy hair. I can look at people and tell when they don't drink water, their skin and hair has a dullness. If diet Pepsi and Iced Tea works for you great, but I'll stick to my water, crystal light, and occasional diet ginger ale.
How is your crystal light any healthier than Iced Tea? Iced tea is a tea bag brewed in water and ice added to it. While crystal light contains horrible chemicals. Some flavors of Crystal Light contain aspartame, one of the most dangerous artificial sweeteners. Side effects of aspartame include headaches, anxiety, abdominal pain, nausea, heart palpitations and irritable bowel syndrome. Acesulfame potassium is another artificial sweetener used in some Crystal Light varieties. This sweetener contains methylene chloride, which is a known carcinogen. Therefore, long-term use of this carcinogen may cause cancer. Other side effects include nausea, headaches and impaired liver.
Source: http://www.livestrong.com/article/413874-what-are-the-ingredients-of-crystal-light/#ixzz1vZ10suX2
Are you aware that diet ginger ale is also soda? Here's the list of ingredients: Water Carbonated Citric Acid, Flavor(s) Natural, Sodium Citrate, Sodium Benzoate, Malic Acid, Aspartame, Caramel Color.
Source: http://www.foodfacts.com/NutritionFacts/Ginger-Ale/Canada-Dry-Diet-Ginger-Ale-20-fl-oz/47843
Folks, before you try to preach.... please read!
Ummmm - while I agree that some people may be sensitive to aspartame - the myth that is is bad for you has been pretty much debunked.0 -
I am a former WeightWatcher employee. Every single day I was faced with people who would swear they just could not put down the minimum # of glasses of water each day. Our advice to them was that they count unsweetened, decaf drinks as a substitute, but for no more than half the daily consumption.
For MFP's 8 glass minimum, that would mean you could have 32 ounces of decaf/unsweetened drinks and 32 ounces of pure water and still make your goal for the day.
Just keep in mind that your body needs water to function properly, especially in the heat or during workouts.0 -
What If I drink a glass of water with a cafeine pill?
I hate the logic....and I am about to disagree with my boy steve...but If I drink 8 oz of water laced with green tea (35mg caffeine) no sugar how is that different than me drinking a glass of water with a caffeine pill that is 200mg of caffeine?
So I don't log water that I had with a caffeine pill? What if I take a sip with the caffeine pill..wait 5 mins...is that 8 oz now legal to be logged?
This made me giggle!
I think some people take logging water way too seriously. If you start with a glass of water and add something to it...you still have water...the H2O molecules didn't magically disappear!0
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