140lb, 5, 3 doing 1000 calorie diet .....

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  • saral8981
    saral8981 Posts: 65 Member
    1000 calories might be to low. I recommend the group Eat more to weigh less: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/3817-eat-more-to-weigh-less
    Take a look at the group and also there's a video with Lucia from eat more to weigh less who can explain it better than me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYi9xjIRvbY&feature=plcp


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  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    If you are tall that could be little enough to damage your metabolism over time, but otherwise it's unlikely you'll go into starvation mode on 1000 calories at your age, especially if you are not exercising. At 20 yo you should naturally have a healthy metabolism.

    If you are hungry or tired all the time on 1000, then eat more. 100-200 calories more isn't really going to slow your weight loss anyway. And if you exercise, then also eat more.
  • pundas
    pundas Posts: 165 Member
    Eating 1000 calories is definitely starvation mode. Even 1200 calories may be considered starvation mode. I was brainwashed into thinking 1200 calories was what I should be eating. WRONG! Go to this website and input your data. It will tell you your total daily energy expenditure (TEE). Make sure you eat 15% LESS of that number.

    http://www.health-calc.com/diet/energy-expenditure-advanced

    If your body is in starvation mode, it will hold on to every ounce of weight you consume, making it extremely difficult to lose weight. Trust me, I have been there.
  • pundas
    pundas Posts: 165 Member
    1000 calories might be to low. I recommend the group Eat more to weigh less: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/3817-eat-more-to-weigh-less
    Take a look at the group and also there's a video with Lucia from eat more to weigh less who can explain it better than me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYi9xjIRvbY&feature=plcp


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    I second this.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Eating 1000 calories is definitely starvation mode. Even 1200 calories may be considered starvation mode. I was brainwashed into thinking 1200 calories was what I should be eating. WRONG! Go to this website and input your data. It will tell you your total daily energy expenditure (TEE). Make sure you eat 15% LESS of that number.

    http://www.health-calc.com/diet/energy-expenditure-advanced

    If your body is in starvation mode, it will hold on to every ounce of weight you consume, making it extremely difficult to lose weight. Trust me, I have been there.

    Starvation mode refers to a slowing of metabolism, not a number of calories. Starvation mode can be caused by eating too few calories, but there is no magic number to cause it. It depends on a lot of things such as age, gender, activity level, genetics, height, weight.
  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
    Eating 1000 calories is definitely starvation mode. Even 1200 calories may be considered starvation mode. I was brainwashed into thinking 1200 calories was what I should be eating. WRONG! Go to this website and input your data. It will tell you your total daily energy expenditure (TEE). Make sure you eat 15% LESS of that number.

    http://www.health-calc.com/diet/energy-expenditure-advanced

    If your body is in starvation mode, it will hold on to every ounce of weight you consume, making it extremely difficult to lose weight. Trust me, I have been there.

    Starvation mode refers to a slowing of metabolism, not a number of calories. Starvation mode can be caused by eating too few calories, but there is no magic number to cause it. It depends on a lot of things such as age, gender, activity level, genetics, height, weight.

    Agreed. Personally I think the word "starvation" is overloaded here on this forum...
  • FitForLife81
    FitForLife81 Posts: 372 Member
    I am 5' 3" and started at 138lbs and am now maintaining at 110. 1200 wasnt even enough for me I was still losing weight at 1500-1700 plus exercise calories. I am now maintaining at 1900-2200!! so 1000 is way tooo low!
  • belgerian
    belgerian Posts: 1,059 Member
    Since someone started the starvation mode scare I suggest doing some research on your own and decide what is healthiest and best choice. THis was copied and paste from a disucssion in this forum http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/81391-starvation-mode-myths-and-science.

    First, a definition. Starvation mode does not mean going without food. It means that you cut your caloric intake to less than what the body would normally burn in the course of a day. I have seen so many posts where people offer advice and tell people they need to eat more to lose weight because they are starving their bodies. The idea postulated is that eating too few calories will reduce a person’s metabolism to such an extent that the person will gain weight instead of losing.

    Now, a look at one of the classic scientific studies on starvation. Probably the most famous study done was conducted after WWII by researchers at the University of Minnesota. Starvation was widespread throughout Europe during the war and scientists were trying to figure out how to re-feed people suffering from starvation and determine the long-term effects. (Remember, tens of thousands of people died after liberation from concentration camps not only from disease but from the reintroduction of food that their bodies were no longer capable of digesting.) Scientists recruited 36 young healthy men to participate in a yearlong study divided into several phases: a 12-week normal control period, a 24-week starvation phase where calories were so dramatically reduced that participants lost approximately 25% of body weight; and, finally, a recovery phase to renourish participants. Results of the study were published in the two-volume, Biology of Human Starvation (Minneapolis: University of Minneapolis, 1950). See more information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment.

    So, what did the results of the study find? First, all participants lost weight. Starvation mode does not result in your body hanging onto extra fat or calories in an effort to “preserve” your body. But, it’s more complicated than just losing weight. All of the participants also experienced a drop in their metabolic rates – approximately 40% below baseline. Now, you will see many posters here that will argue that you will start losing muscle and not fat within a few days of going into so-called “starvation mode.” Yet, the research shows that participants lost both. In fact, at no point did they stop losing fat until they hit a rate of approximately 5% body fat near the end of the study.

    Lyle McDonald explains it this way:

    In general, it's true that metabolic rate tends to drop more with more excessive caloric deficits… But here's the thing: in no study I've ever seen has the drop in metabolic rate been sufficient to completely offset the caloric deficit. That is, say that cutting your calories by 50% per day leads to a reduction in the metabolic rate of 10%. Starvation mode you say. Well, yes. But you still have a 40% daily deficit.

    But, keep in mind that apart from weight loss, semi-starvation has other not-so-cool effects on your mind and body. The other physical effects from the Minnesota study on semi-starvation included a significant drop in physical endurance, reduction in strength of about 10%, and sluggish reflexes. Those that were the most fit initially showed the greatest deterioration. In addition, heart volume shrank about 20%, pulses slowed and their body temperatures dropped. Concentration and judgment became impaired. Sexual function was reduced and all lost interest in sex. They had every physical indication of accelerated aging. But keep in mind, this was a year-long study, not something that happened in a just a few days or two weeks of eating restricted calories.

    The more dramatic effects of semi-starvation from the Minnesota study were psychological, similar to what can be observed in anorexic patients. The men became nervous, anxious, apathetic, withdrawn, impatient, self-critical, emotional and depressed. A few even mutilated themselves, one chopping off three fingers in stress. They became obsessed with food, thinking, talking and reading about it constantly; developed weird eating rituals; hoarding, etc.

    Now, let’s look at another aspect. The folks at Cambridge University in England did a study to determine the different effects starvation had on lean people versus obese people. The study can be found here: http://www.unu.edu/unupress/food2/UID07E/uid0 7e11.htm. Let’s just cut to the chase with this study.

    Does starvation mode slow down the metabolism? No and Yes.

    In the first 2 days of starvation, there is a small absolute increase in basic metabolic rate relative to values obtained from overnight fasting. Overnight fasting is what every one of us does during our sleeping hours. So it is not true that going below recommended calories for one day is going to slow down your metabolism -- quite the contrary, it may speed it up just a little. Of course, this is just limited to the first few days. After that, studies in fact support that “starvation mode” slows down metabolism.

    Does Starvation mode cause our bodies to catabilize (devour our muscles and other lean mass)? Yes and No.

    Lean individuals lost great amounts of fat-free, lean tissue during starvation, but obese individuals lost much more fat tissue. The loss of lean mass is not as critical to the obese person simply because an obese person has more lean mass than a person of the same age and height but normal weight. Here we get to a basic idea that makes sense – fat storage – the same way animals build up bulk to rely on during the winter, obese people have fat stores they can use (to a limited extent) in times of need. This means that the effects of a semi-starvation diet upon a normal weight individual are of course much more devastating than the effects on someone who is obese.

    Finally, some conclusions. Does all this mean I should reduce my caloric intake below the minimum recommended as an effective way to lose weight? If you think the answer is yes, then you haven’t carefully read everything here, so I will spell it out:

    Let’s start by clearing up that major myth I see repeated over and over again in the forums: that a single day or even a few days of extreme caloric restrictions forces your body into starvation mode, significantly reducing your metabolism and causing you to lose muscles. Not true. You may, in fact, lose weight in the short term. Your body does not go into starvation mode after a few days of extreme calorie restricted eating.

    However, let’s look again at the Minnesota study for further compelling evidence why semi-starvation is not a good idea for long-term weight loss. In the latter half of the Minnesota Starvation Study the men were allowed to eat ad libitum again. Researchers found they had insatiable appetites, yet never felt full, these effects continued for months afterwards. Semi-starvation diets don’t work long-term for this simple reason – under ordinary pressures, when eating resumes, people put the weight back on and oftentimes, gain more.

    And let’s not forget the other physical and psychological effects mentioned earlier. Any of those sound appealing to you? Reduced concentration or sexual function anyone? The Cambridge study also looked at several deaths from people who undertook extreme starvation diets, particularly those that did not create a good nutritional balance in the calories that were consumed.

    Bottom line, you should do adequate research and dietary analysis to ensure you are getting the best nutrition you can for your calories.

    I will point out that for you to get into starvation mode according to this study you body fat percentage has to be less than 5 percent that probably is maybe 1 percent or less of the ppl on this site. (Just a rought estimate)
  • Kebby83
    Kebby83 Posts: 232 Member
    It won't kill you and you will lose weight. If that is the end goal and you aren't starving then do it. I would be hungry and I normally eat 1200 (which people here would tell me is too low because I have a very active job and work out enough to burn sometimes 600 cals or so a day - but I am eating every 4 hours just about and not feeling hungry - I am by no means feeling like I need to stuff my face by 9pm). I'm not starving, I'm quite full and I am 5"6 weighing 157lbs.

    Do what you need to do. You might try it and feel lethargic and cranky and then you need to eat some damn peanut butter and that's what you do. For a short amount of time it will not hurt. It might not stay off, it might not perform miracles but short term it is not going to put you on your death bed.
  • Ok I took a slightly different approach, I didn't set a particular goal in a particular time but when I decided to participate in a health challenge I simply replaced most of the bad things in my diet with healthier ones, worked out regularly 45 min daily (you can do it all at once or in spurts) & started drinking only water in massive amounts. My starting weight was 160 & in 8 weeks (of total consistency) I was 133. I did consult a nutritionist and got a personal trainer to advise me as well. Like I said I did not calorie count but I have started to recently since my job restricts my movent and I have climbed back up to 146 now.
  • Kebby83
    Kebby83 Posts: 232 Member
    I wanted to add to my previius comment.

    If person x does not count cals and wakes up and eats 2 slices toast and a handful of nuts, for lunch a couple boiled eggs and some fruit on the run, has a candy bar in the afternoon and a cooked dinner of a reasonable size, rehydrates on water black coffee/tea it would be around 1000 cals. Plenty of people do this...and stay alive. They may eat more some days (we call them spike or off days) normal people call it being normal.

    People talk like she will die eating it for a little while. There is a whole world where people do not count, are under 1000 and live but if tthose who eat amd eat saw a homeless person who was late for the soup line how many would worry abput his macros, or a single mom who feeds her kid instead of herself - she won't die. We are spoiled and we act it. There is a difference between starving and starvation mode.

    Not everyone counts cals and not every healthy person aims for an exact number...and they aren't fat and never have to count cals. We do have to count cals because otherwise , at one point in time at least, our eating was mismanaged and we needed to count.
  • Mc_Queen
    Mc_Queen Posts: 48 Member
    If person x does not count cals and wakes up and eats 2 slices toast and a handful of nuts, for lunch a couple boiled eggs and some fruit on the run, has a candy bar in the afternoon and a cooked dinner of a reasonable size, rehydrates on water black coffee/tea it would be around 1000 cals. Plenty of people do this...and stay alive. They may eat more some days (we call them spike or off days) normal people call it being normal.

    People talk like she will die eating it for a little while. There is a whole world where people do not count, are under 1000 and live but if tthose who eat amd eat saw a homeless person who was late for the soup line how many would worry abput his macros, or a single mom who feeds her kid instead of herself - she won't die. We are spoiled and we act it. There is a difference between starving and starvation mode.

    Well said.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member

    could you double check that for me - doesn't seem to work. Thx.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Here's the deal. If you were in a coma, you would have a feeding tube that would supply you with 1200 calories worth of food. Why 1200 calories? That is because that is what your body needs in order to survive while you are in a coma.

    That's not necessarily true. If one were in a coma, their caloric needs would be individually determined. Certainly not everyone would get 1200 calories, and not even all women. Some would get more, some might get less, based on size, age, etc. Most women would get more, as they don't normally put coma patients on a calories deficit and the BMR of many women is > 1200.

    1200 is just the average number of calories the average woman needs to lose weight safely. But not everyone is average.
  • rlaseter1
    rlaseter1 Posts: 19 Member
    YOUR BODY CAN DEFINITELY GO INTO STARVATION MODE!! I have done a lot of research and found out that this is true, so if you're eating too few calories then at least once a week eat about 500 more calories than usual. This surplus in calories will feed your body. If you are going to splurge (eating a lot of calories) then make sure you do it all at one time, your body can only consume so many calories at one time! Also, eating a very low calorie diet is only used as a temporary fix. Meaning, if you are getting married and need to slim quick..or for your birthday. Once you get to your goal weight, you need to get on a higher calorie intake so that you can maintain. Just like there is a certain number of calories you need to eat to lose weight, there is also a number of calories you need to eat to maintain! This depends on your height and how much you weigh at that time. Overall, a 1000 calories is not a permanent thing. Realize that eating too few calories will cause you to not feel as healthy (tired, no energy...) I think that there is a middle for you! I AM EATING 1200 CALORIES A DAY AND AM 5'3"! It is important to exercise because it allows you to eat more calories..( I don't use all of the calories I earned, but a few more helps). Also, NEVER allow yourself to get hungry! When you feel hungry your mind and body start working against you. Eat every couple of hours, even if it is a 50 calorie cheese string! Your body needs to have something in your stomach all the time...Good luck, if you need help.., message me!
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Also, NEVER allow yourself to get hungry! When you feel hungry your mind and body start working against you. Eat every couple of hours, even if it is a 50 calorie cheese string! Your body needs to have something in your stomach all the time...

    What?? Where did you hear that? That might be a personal preference but it's certainly not necessary.
  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
    I wanted to add to my previius comment.

    If person x does not count cals and wakes up and eats 2 slices toast and a handful of nuts, for lunch a couple boiled eggs and some fruit on the run, has a candy bar in the afternoon and a cooked dinner of a reasonable size, rehydrates on water black coffee/tea it would be around 1000 cals. Plenty of people do this...and stay alive. They may eat more some days (we call them spike or off days) normal people call it being normal.

    Please help me since I can't wrap my mind around these numbers. I have been counting calories for a while so I have a rough idea about how many calories this menu you used as example would be...It's hard to believe this would be around 1000 calories...

    Many people have hard time to lose weight because they don't count and think they eat very little, myself included. When I started writing down everything, even on those days when I thought I didn't have time for bites, it was easily over 1000 calories. So people don't die because they eat more than enough. :)
  • Kebby83
    Kebby83 Posts: 232 Member
    2 slices toast - 140 cals (white generic bread)
    1tbsp can't believe it's not butter - 70 cals
    Raisin yogurt trail mix (used because it's what I eat) - 150 cals

    Breakfast: 360 cals

    2 hard boiled eggs plain - roughly 150 cals
    1 cup grapes - around 100 cals Or banana - around 110 cals Or apple - less than both of these options.

    Lunch in a hurry - 250 cals
    (BTW I survive on this lunch - I have no lunch break at work and may only eat while feeding the people that cannot feed themselves - 6 people in a 30 minute timeframe, and most the time the people who can feed themselves steal my grapes)

    Snickers - 280

    Afternoon snack - 280 cals

    Note - this doesn't have to be snickers. If you didn't have the snickers you could eat quite a few more items and feel even more full - but I said candy bar and have written the one that I haven't eaten in 2 years!)

    Italian sausage - 250 cals -prepared on an indoor grill sprayed with non fat cooking spray)
    2 cups salad - 50 cals (If that)
    Fat free salad dressing 1 tbsp - 45 cals
    Small side of those pasta side (lipton things) - 70 cals

    Dinner - 415 cals (This TO ME is a reasonable size meal. It is what I might eat - my husband would have at least 500 cals in the italian sausage, my kid would have a little less than me but for 415 cals there are quite a few reasonably size meals)

    Coffee - black 0 cals
    Tea - black 0 cals. With fat free milk - 5-10 cals.
    Water - 0 cals

    Drinks - 5-10 cals.


    Days cals 1035 (go walk around the block, burn 35 cals - day done!)

    It doesn't meet macros, it's not a healthy day but it is around 1000 cals and it would fill me up. For the record - this is not MY day - I eat more than mentioned here and I eat healthier 90% of the time but you asked for help to work those numbers out and I used MFP database.
  • Smuterella
    Smuterella Posts: 1,623 Member
    ^ that is a really weird lunch....don't mean to be offensive but I'd be starving all day after that. :-)
  • Kebby83
    Kebby83 Posts: 232 Member
    Lol I had said eggs and fruit so gave cals.

    And peopl here eat exercize cals back so net cals would make room for a bigger lunch.

    And you'd be hungry because you normally eat more but in no way would you starve.goes to show how spoiled we all are foodwise. Some people woul be thrilled to get all that food, but people here turn their noses up like the spoiled calorie brats we are.
  • graysmom2005
    graysmom2005 Posts: 1,882 Member
    I love how everyone is like "OH NO! 1000 IS WAAAAY TOO LOW!" TRY 1200! :noway:
  • Tzippy7
    Tzippy7 Posts: 344 Member
    I pretty much feel like I wrote this post. I just turned 21, I am a student, Im 138 lbs, 5'1". Starting weight 172. 1000 is low for me, but I workout all the time. THe past few days have been a **** show for me eating wise, but I usually eat around 1200. People give you alot of **** for eating low cal. Sometimes its justified and sometimes its not. I understand why you would want to eat 1000 but in your case I dont thing you should. Here is why. I also yoyo dietied and ****ed up my metabolism starting in 5th grade. In order to get metabolism back on track you should eat more (maybe even 1300) for a few weeks. That will make weight loss easer in the long run. And I know you think you dont have time to work out. God knows I get that but I have found that when I work out I am way more productive in my work. If you get on the treadmill for 30 mins a day (not that long at all! ) you can start to get into good shape. Honestly this could only be good for you. There are so many studies that show students who exercise and eat healthy and get enough sleep are better students. Since I started MFP my grades have improved.
  • Tzippy7
    Tzippy7 Posts: 344 Member
    I love how everyone is like "OH NO! 1000 IS WAAAAY TOO LOW!" TRY 1200! :noway:

    It doesnt seem that much higher but % wise it does make a difference.
  • Kybelle132
    Kybelle132 Posts: 71 Member
    Before I started using MFP I was only eating around 1000 cals a day and my weight loss was very sluggish and so was I! I started MFP and upped my cals to 1200 and just do light walks for excercise...my weight loss has picked back up and I feel great!
  • I agree with everyone else; 1000 isn't really enough calories. I'm almost 5' 4" and almost 23 years old and was eating 1200 calories a day since December and lost 35lbs, however even that wasn't enough calories for me. My body is now rebelling; my weight loss has mostly stalled, I bruise easier, and I have MAJOR hair shedding. This past week I upped my calories to 1500 so while I can't speak for results yet I know that's my bodys way of telling me I need more food. It will probably take me a while to reset my metabolism which sucks but I have no one to blame but myself.

    Have you considered, instead of focusing on pounds lost, maybe focus on sizes/inches? Some people lose 2-3 pants sizes without ever losing weight because they convert body fat into muscle mass. I know you said you don't have time but Jillian Michaels 30 day shred is a great workout to lose inches and it's only a 20 minute work out. You can find the whole thing for free on Youtube and a few other sites. If you want links just message me sometime :)
  • Jovialation
    Jovialation Posts: 7,632 Member
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  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
    2 slices toast - 140 cals (white generic bread)
    1tbsp can't believe it's not butter - 70 cals
    Raisin yogurt trail mix (used because it's what I eat) - 150 cals

    Breakfast: 360 cals

    2 hard boiled eggs plain - roughly 150 cals
    1 cup grapes - around 100 cals Or banana - around 110 cals Or apple - less than both of these options.

    Lunch in a hurry - 250 cals
    (BTW I survive on this lunch - I have no lunch break at work and may only eat while feeding the people that cannot feed themselves - 6 people in a 30 minute timeframe, and most the time the people who can feed themselves steal my grapes)

    Snickers - 280

    Afternoon snack - 280 cals

    Note - this doesn't have to be snickers. If you didn't have the snickers you could eat quite a few more items and feel even more full - but I said candy bar and have written the one that I haven't eaten in 2 years!)

    Italian sausage - 250 cals -prepared on an indoor grill sprayed with non fat cooking spray)
    2 cups salad - 50 cals (If that)
    Fat free salad dressing 1 tbsp - 45 cals
    Small side of those pasta side (lipton things) - 70 cals

    Dinner - 415 cals (This TO ME is a reasonable size meal. It is what I might eat - my husband would have at least 500 cals in the italian sausage, my kid would have a little less than me but for 415 cals there are quite a few reasonably size meals)

    Coffee - black 0 cals
    Tea - black 0 cals. With fat free milk - 5-10 cals.
    Water - 0 cals

    Drinks - 5-10 cals.


    Days cals 1035 (go walk around the block, burn 35 cals - day done!)

    It doesn't meet macros, it's not a healthy day but it is around 1000 cals and it would fill me up. For the record - this is not MY day - I eat more than mentioned here and I eat healthier 90% of the time but you asked for help to work those numbers out and I used MFP database.

    I such at math, but, 360+250+280+415 = 1035?????

    Or did I misread anything here? scratching my head...
  • Kebby83
    Kebby83 Posts: 232 Member
    You should be scratching your head. Haha. Editing to hide my bad math skills :D

    Edit - oh it won't let me edit. Haha.
    Ok here. Take italian sausage and eat 0.75. Eat m&m pretzels instead of snickers. Eat 3/4 of grapes. And anyhow. And skip the pasta side.

    Oh dear. My point was it can be done and has been done but I screwed up with math at some point. I have done 1000 cals (and I let MFP add it up, not me) and been fine. I don't do it every day and I wouldn't love it - but I wouldn't be weak and unmotivated.

    Edit again - awkward as I realize I posted more than I ate today.
  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
    You should be scratching your head. Haha. Editing to hide my bad math skills :D

    You could have fooled me...LOL
  • Kebby83
    Kebby83 Posts: 232 Member
    Nah, I had a brain fart. Maybe it's my calorie deficit. ;)
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