My nutritionists advice for an endomorph - what you eat

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  • jveracruz
    jveracruz Posts: 2
    1. Somatotypes are just about varying body types. Not psychology. Body types. It's a scientific fact that there are different body types. There's absolutely no reason to doubt that each individual body type would need a different plan to get in shape. Why do you think there are people walking around every day who can eat 5000 calories and never gain a lb? And then there are others who can work out and cut their calories and still not lose more than 5 lbs. body types.
    2. Why can't people just be happy for each other? This website is supposed to be uplifting! We are supposed to encourage each other on our journey to getting fit and get every single time someone posts something there are people who have to knocked the poster down a couple notches. Why? If you don't have anything nice to say then shut up!!! If you don't agree with a post there are kind ways to present your opinion. And it would be wonderful to have web links to the "facts" you seem to know so well.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,973 Member
    Ummm, apparently we are.

    I see. Well you might be interested to learn that the entire concept of endo/ecto/mesomorph is a bunch of total bunk made up by a 1940s psychologist, and it corresponds to nothing at all in the real world.
    THIS. You can take any person who's skinny and make them an "endomorph" by just making sure they over consume. And vice versa. There are thousands of people out there today who have disproven the concept of somatotypes by gaining and losing weight. The general population is usually a "mix" of all 3 proposed body types.
    There are genetic tendencies from races, but by enlarge the amount of energy stored is the body is determined by calories in/out.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • victoriavoodoo
    victoriavoodoo Posts: 343 Member
    This endomorph business sort of sounds like another thing to blame besides yourself. Of course all overweight people would like to think they are an endomorph, because it shifts some of the responsibility. I've seen people be very overweight and then lose it and be very very petite, so no one is stuck a certain way and saying that it's harder because you have a certain body type is not helping you reach your goals any faster.

    Both of my parents have always been fat, and I have had to pull myself out of the mindset that I am genetically programmed to be fat also. Once I stopped thinking like that I progressed faster, because I could no longer say, "Well, It's probably a lost cause anyway so I'm going to eat this whole pizza and hate my biology."
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,973 Member
    1. Somatotypes are just about varying body types. Not psychology. Body types. It's a scientific fact that there are different body types. There's absolutely no reason to doubt that each individual body type would need a different plan to get in shape. Why do you think there are people walking around every day who can eat 5000 calories and never gain a lb? And then there are others who can work out and cut their calories and still not lose more than 5 lbs. body types.
    Actually there is no science that actually backs different body types. If there are I'd like to see them. As to people who eat 5,000 calories and don't gain, then they are compensating by either exercising it off or their metabolic rate (which isn't a somatotype) equals the intake. Many times people who can't lose have a hormonal or other issue discouraging weight loss.
    2. Why can't people just be happy for each other? This website is supposed to be uplifting! We are supposed to encourage each other on our journey to getting fit and get every single time someone posts something there are people who have to knocked the poster down a couple notches. Why? If you don't have anything nice to say then shut up!!! If you don't agree with a post there are kind ways to present your opinion. And it would be wonderful to have web links to the "facts" you seem to know so well.
    It's not about being happy. It's about misinformation that gets spread and leads people the wrong direction. No one has to take the advice from people refuting the OP post, but some will look, research and more than likely disagree. And there's nothing wrong with that. What better way to support than by making sure the site has correct information.

    The truth is a person's "look" is the product of their lifestyle.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • brigit628
    brigit628 Posts: 50 Member
    STOCKY. It's stocky, not "stalky". Unless you are a stalker, or celery.

    geesh
  • kwedman488
    kwedman488 Posts: 132 Member
    I'm a true endomorph...I've been referenced to as "stalky", "thick" and so forth. I love weight training and when I do, I definitely bulk up more than perhaps most. Not crazy, but definitely a lot more than most woman lol

    I also am hypothryoid... does anyone have any experience with this -- from the endomorph diet experience? I've started reducing my carbs but I've been doing a lot of reading that doing so could affect and lower the thyroid function. I already have an issue and don't want to make it worse.

    I have a very difficult time loosing weight, and am fearful of upping my calories too much, I just went from 1200 to 1600 since my workouts have been seeming to lack and I feel exceptionally tired and unmotivated. I realize it's going to be a lot of playing around with the numbers to find the "magic" number for me.

    Any advice or input is appreciated!!!

    My younger sister also has hypothyroidism, although she actually is allergic to wheat-it turns out that was why she had such awful acne problems for years. So my mom uses almond, coconut, and tapioca flours when she bakes. So that could be something you could try out; I think almond flour/meal is the only one of the 3 I listed that has different ratios you use when cooking or baking with it since it's more dense, but I'm not certain so I'd look into it.

    As for your activity levels, maybe you just need to find an activity that's right for you-I also feel exhausted a lot of the time lately, but I think a large part of that is me recovering from working overtime at 2 jobs last week, and stress from having school start up again in a week and a half. Plus I work out 2-3 times a day. But you might find something like Zumba or dance aerobics to be fun, there are plenty of videos on the web that you can do at home if you don't want to get a gym membership. Or you could start taking walks with friends-having someone to talk to makes it much less boring and the time really flies.
  • NavyKnightAh13
    NavyKnightAh13 Posts: 1,394 Member
    Bumping for later read
  • candylilacs
    candylilacs Posts: 614 Member
    I'm a mesomorph and I'm fat. Anyone can overeat and gain weight -- it just may take a few years. (If you don't believe me, look at all the skinny people you know that hit their late30/40s and gain 15-20 pounds mainly in the midsection.)

    I have broad shoulders and build muscle easily. I also gain weight easily, or maybe it's because I eat too much too easily.

    However, I am different than many people i see. I've seen so many young women who are really doughy, as if you can press them hard with a finger and feel no muscle at all. I think it's the sedentary lifestyle nowadays.
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    ....... You people aren't seriously discussing somatotypes, are you? In 2013?

    I can tell you what you should be eating based on phrenology. Those bumps on your head will tell me if pasta is a go or a not go for you.
  • peggymdellinger
    peggymdellinger Posts: 151 Member
    STOCKY. It's stocky, not "stalky". Unless you are a stalker, or celery.

    geesh

    This... Thank you!
  • _Zardoz_
    _Zardoz_ Posts: 3,987 Member
    As such, I need to avoid insulin spiking foods as much as possible.

    yet you say this this
    50% of my intake in a day should be protein.

    Dude, seriously forget about somatotypes - they are the physiological equivalent of astrology....
    this
  • stefjc
    stefjc Posts: 484 Member
    1. Somatotypes are just about varying body types. Not psychology. Body types. It's a scientific fact that there are different body types. There's absolutely no reason to doubt that each individual body type would need a different plan to get in shape. Why do you think there are people walking around every day who can eat 5000 calories and never gain a lb? And then there are others who can work out and cut their calories and still not lose more than 5 lbs. body types.

    Psychologist Sheldon 'invented' somatotypes and researched stereotyping and body shape, basically he wanted to say that your personality and temperament has a biological basis, is shaped by your body composition

    Endomorphs are likely to be perceived as slow, sloppy, and lazy.
    Mesomorphs, in contrast, are typically stereotyped as popular and hardworking
    Ectomorphs are often viewed as intelligent but fearful

    Body shapes were classified on a scale of 1 -7 by observation only. As such they are obvious and so 'right'.

    But he obviously has been debunked as being outdated and, phsyiologically incorrect in some aspects.

    Here, have a read http://users.rider.edu/~suler/somato.html

    Look at the questions at the bottom and ask yourself, how strong is the power of stereotyping?
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    I'm an ectoplasmic endo-mesomorph but also a Capricorn. However because I am born in early January I am a 1979 who also happens to be a horse instead of a goat in the Chinese zodiac.


    So to keep the weight off, should I cut out simple carbs or drink more water at night? Just to be safe, I'm avoiding foods that taste white.
  • TheBaileyHunter
    TheBaileyHunter Posts: 641 Member
    I'm an endomorph body type as well. This does not mean anything other than I am naturally soft and when I build muscle it's thick. I don't mind so much. I know I'll never be Miss Universe, or Abtastic. I like the smoother, curvier version of who I am so it's all good... but it also takes more work to be the slimmer version of me. I can't just do calories in/calories out. I have to be conscious of what those calories are made of.

    Pain in the *kitten*? Sure. But worth it? sure.

    Here's to us endomorph body types. We are power houses in our own right. Nothing wrong with being curvy/barrel chested. (and yes, we could probably match the super cut folk, but at such a strict cost it may or may not be worth it depending upon your own personal goals)
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    I'm an endomorph body type as well. This does not mean anything other than I am naturally soft and when I build muscle it's thick. I don't mind so much. I know I'll never be Miss Universe, or Abtastic. I like the smoother, curvier version of who I am so it's all good... but it also takes more work to be the slimmer version of me. I can't just do calories in/calories out. I have to be conscious of what those calories are made of.

    Pain in the *kitten*? Sure. But worth it? sure.

    Here's to us endomorph body types. We are power houses in our own right. Nothing wrong with being curvy/barrel chested. (and yes, we could probably match the super cut folk, but at such a strict cost it may or may not be worth it depending upon your own personal goals)

    Sorry, that's bull****. You can do anything you want if you put your heart into it and don't quit and don't take no for an answer.

    As stated above, you might as well be talking about the bumps on your head.


    Phenotype is the interface between genetics and environment. You can't be an endomorph without carrying extra fat, which doesn't happen without a calorie surplus.

    That's good news, actually.
  • Lupercalia
    Lupercalia Posts: 1,857 Member
    Tagging to read this somatotype craziness later. :wink:
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
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  • stefjc
    stefjc Posts: 484 Member
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  • Yanicka1
    Yanicka1 Posts: 4,564 Member
    ....... You people aren't seriously discussing somatotypes, are you? In 2013?

    I can tell you what you should be eating based on phrenology. Those bumps on your head will tell me if pasta is a go or a not go for you.


    Oh oh oh I am next!!!! Please tell me that my diet should include brown edibles like chocolate
  • jadethief
    jadethief Posts: 266 Member
    STOCKY. It's stocky, not "stalky". Unless you are a stalker, or celery.

    geesh

    Thanks for this. I kept envisioning those posters who described themselves as stalky as standing tall and straight with leafy hair.
  • adrainne1
    adrainne1 Posts: 1
    So....no fruit and vegetables?
  • Pmsylvester
    Pmsylvester Posts: 36 Member
    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
    Stalky vs stocky
  • formerfatboy1
    formerfatboy1 Posts: 76 Member
    Endomorphs can have visible ABS it all comes down to discipline and staying away from all the crap your body craves. I'm living proof of that. It's all about Carb timing and keeping them low when shedding body fat plus daily cardio for us endos. Keep your head up and stay focus if you want the shredded look it is possible. Depending on How bad you want it! Former Fat Boy Out!
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    Endomorphs can have visible ABS it all comes down to discipline and staying away from all the crap your body craves. I'm living proof of that. It's all about Carb timing and keeping them low when shedding body fat plus daily cardio for us endos. Keep your head up and stay focus if you want the shredded look it is possible. Depending on How bad you want it! Former Fat Boy Out!

    I think you missed all the information over the last few pages about somatotypes being bullsh*t.

    I was an "endo" until I stopped being lazy and started eating appropriately. Magically I "changed" types? I don't think so.

    http://www.returnofkings.com/10722/the-3-somatotypes-are-bull****
    Somatotypes were first suggested by psychologist William Sheldon in the 40s. He published his “findings” in 1954. He concluded on the three body types by looking at thousands of pictures of people and classifying them based on how their appearance made him feel. There is no scientific basis to this, just the feelings and observations of a psychologist.
  • sparacka
    sparacka Posts: 137 Member
    45% fat is NEVER good for a diet - it should always be 33% or lower

    Says who?
  • MonaLisaLianne
    MonaLisaLianne Posts: 398 Member
    ....... You people aren't seriously discussing somatotypes, are you? In 2013?

    Rofl - yes. Because..... why?
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    ....... You people aren't seriously discussing somatotypes, are you? In 2013?

    Rofl - yes. Because..... why?

    Somatotypes were first suggested by psychologist William Sheldon in the 40s. He published his “findings” in 1954. He concluded on the three body types by looking at thousands of pictures of people and classifying them based on how their appearance made him feel. There is no scientific basis to this, just the feelings and observations of a psychologist.

    Somatotypes have been debunked.
  • mrschains
    mrschains Posts: 12
    It's DANGEROUS to believe in things like this. You start diets that can be detrimental and undo every bit of success that you have previously had. The BEST and most ACCURATE way to begin any type of weight loss program is to speak with a Dr, a dietician, and a nutritionist. Working with ALL of them will ensure that you are getting a fully rounded diet and exercise plan that is SAFE and effective for YOUR body. Following advice from some crackpot that's been proven numerous times to be a fake is not safe. So yes, we're going to speak out. He could potentially put his health at serious risk.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    It's DANGEROUS to believe in things like this. You start diets that can be detrimental and undo every bit of success that you have previously had. The BEST and most ACCURATE way to begin any type of weight loss program is to speak with a Dr, a dietician, and a nutritionist. Working with ALL of them will ensure that you are getting a fully rounded diet and exercise plan that is SAFE and effective for YOUR body. Following advice from some crackpot that's been proven numerous times to be a fake is not safe. So yes, we're going to speak out. He could potentially put his health at serious risk.

    A doctor, dietician and nutritionist all told me I'm overweight and to lose some weight. I'm a female with less than 20% body fat. One told me that carbs are the enemy, one said sugar and the other said fat. I think I will stick to researching on my own.
  • AutumnElf80
    AutumnElf80 Posts: 58 Member
    I'm an ectoplasmic endo-mesomorph but also a Capricorn. However because I am born in early January I am a 1979 who also happens to be a horse instead of a goat in the Chinese zodiac.


    So to keep the weight off, should I cut out simple carbs or drink more water at night? Just to be safe, I'm avoiding foods that taste white.

    What if I'm a Libra? Should I avoid blue foods?

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