NYC Large sugary drink ban proposed
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I don't think the government has any place regulating these things. If people want to drink them and get fat, they have the right to do so.... but banning it won't solve anything. People will just buy ice cream or something equally as bad.
Proper education about nutrition and fitness needs to be taught... but those are always the first subjects to go by the wayside in school. It's a shame.0 -
What a stupid idea. Oh, I can’t have a 32oz soda, than I’ll take two 16oz sodas please.
People who want to drink soda are going to drink soda.
I don’t need a mommy state to take care of me.0 -
I think the purview of government is not to regulate consensual behavior. What does not harm the person or property of a non-consenting other should not be the purview of laws. Period.0
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I don't think the government has any place regulating these things. If people want to drink them and get fat, they have the right to do so.... but banning it won't solve anything. People will just buy ice cream or something equally as bad.
Proper education about nutrition and fitness needs to be taught... but those are always the first subjects to go by the wayside in school. It's a shame.
I agree with you, but I want to point out that nutrition and fitness can also be taught at home. Not trying to argue, just pointing out an alternative
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Ugh. It is not the government's place to decide what we can and cannot eat (you know, unless they're selling arsenic cookies or something). If the consumer really believed it wasn't healthy they wouldn't buy it and the demand would dwindle. Banning it is just going to have people making other unhealthy choices somewhere else. Give me a break.0
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Yes, sounds great! Banning sugary drinks will surely reverse obesity rates. Ban it all, that stops people!
Excuse me while I go do a bump before I smoke a joint........ :noway:0 -
I don't think the government has any place regulating these things. If people want to drink them and get fat, they have the right to do so.... but banning it won't solve anything. People will just buy ice cream or something equally as bad.
Proper education about nutrition and fitness needs to be taught... but those are always the first subjects to go by the wayside in school. It's a shame.
Actually music and art are the first subjects cut. Nutrition can and should be taught in science classes. Just for the sake of accuracy.0 -
Also NYC seems to be especially out of control thanks to their idiotic mayor. Recently banned people from making food donations to homeless shelters... wait for it... because the food "may not be healthy". Um, if I'm homeless I'm not gonna care if you're giving me a salad or a quarter pounder. It's food.0
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I've never had soda (yes really)... however...
I really don't think the government should be able to dictate what people put in their bodies... especially soda... I mean come on... if a person wants to drink that much, they will drink it regardless of where they buy it and how much they buy at a time. A person has to want to change their habits, it's not going to work if it's forced upon them...
You can't force people to lead healthy lives, they have to want it...
I don't know what the answer to this is, but I don't think it's a government that control our lives this way. Dangerous path....0 -
They'd have to ban the obvious workaround: free refills.0
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Yes, sounds great! Banning sugary drinks will surely reverse obesity rates. Ban it all, that stops people!
Excuse me while I go do a bump before I smoke a joint........ :noway:
Exactly. Prohibition DOESN'T WORK! Haven't we learned that in 100+ years of prohibitory laws? Alcohol prohibition actually INCREASED alcoholism rates!0 -
I have to agree that banning wont make any difference. I know losts of you are from the usa, but in the uk the government were trying to add tax on hot food snacks, like hot dogs and the like, it wont stop people buying them will it. Cigarettes in the uk are now about $8 or more a pack and it doesnt stop people, You just cant control people like that, its down to there own mind not to drink or eat it. Even food nutrition in schools does not make for a healthy lifestyle. Now I am somewhere inbetween as I love my healthy foods but also like to have the odd cake, which is ofcourse no good for me at all, but a treat is a good thing to have.Ive changed my foods alot in the last few years but still like some of the old stuff now and then, but there are other things like burgers and sausages I wouldnt thank you for. I wont eat full english breakfasts anymore coz i know there full of fat and calouries and it really makes me feel bad if there was no other choice.We all have our downfalls but we have got to try and control then simple.0
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Mayor Bloomberg is a tyrant and a bully imposing his own beliefs on people. He needs to mind his own business and let people do with their bodies what they want even if it is smoking, eating crap and drink crazy stuff.0
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I think it's stupid. If I want a Big Gulp, I'm thirsty enough for a Big Gulp. The only thing this would make me do is buy two 16 oz drinks.
This is their objective, to make more money. Instead of consumers buying one 20oz, now people will buy 2 or more,0 -
Also NYC seems to be especially out of control thanks to their idiotic mayor. Recently banned people from making food donations to homeless shelters... wait for it... because the food "may not be healthy". Um, if I'm homeless I'm not gonna care if you're giving me a salad or a quarter pounder. It's food.
Because dying of actual starvation is so much better than dying of an obesity-related illness?0 -
I've never had soda (yes really)... however...
I really don't think the government should be able to dictate what people put in their bodies... especially soda... I mean come on... if a person wants to drink that much, they will drink it regardless of where they buy it and how much they buy at a time. A person has to want to change their habits, it's not going to work if it's forced upon them...
You can't force people to lead healthy lives, they have to want it...
I don't know what the answer to this is, but I don't think it's a government that control our lives this way. Dangerous path....
It's not banning anything. It's a regulation on item sizing. You will still be able to get as fat as you want drinking as much soda as you want.0 -
I despise nanny state politics. I don't personally drink giant sodas or sugary beverages myself, but I think controlling/limiting personal freedoms (when they don't impact others) is outrageous and atrocious.
So ridiculous...0 -
Unless they ban free or any refills, that isn't going to do much IMO.0
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It's not banning anything. It's a regulation on item sizing. You will still be able to get as fat as you want drinking as much soda as you want.
True True0 -
I have to agree that banning wont make any difference. I know losts of you are from the usa, but in the uk the government were trying to add tax on hot food snacks, like hot dogs and the like, it wont stop people buying them will it. Cigarettes in the uk are now about $8 or more a pack and it doesnt stop people, You just cant control people like that, its down to there own mind not to drink or eat it. Even food nutrition in schools does not make for a healthy lifestyle. Now I am somewhere inbetween as I love my healthy foods but also like to have the odd cake, which is ofcourse no good for me at all, but a treat is a good thing to have.Ive changed my foods alot in the last few years but still like some of the old stuff now and then, but there are other things like burgers and sausages I wouldnt thank you for. I wont eat full english breakfasts anymore coz i know there full of fat and calouries and it really makes me feel bad if there was no other choice.We all have our downfalls but we have got to try and control then simple.
The "occasional cake" actually is good for you. Psychological health is as important as physical health.0 -
Wow anyone who has been on this site appreciates that probably no one should EVER drink something that sugary and huge. We require helmets, seatbelts etc so we don't have to use our collective resources to scrape people off the pavement. I have no interest in subsidizing people's obesity surgery, amputations, etc. so I have no problem making it just a little harder for them to poison themselves.0
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I think it's another bull**** step by government... People must choose for themselves wether or not to be healthy... They'll just by smaller soda's and drink more of them... What's next, King Mike makes everybody exercise?
^THIS!
How about better education in schools regarding diet and exercise instead of blaming companies who are doing what companies do....MAKING MONEY.0 -
Yes, sounds great! Banning sugary drinks will surely reverse obesity rates. Ban it all, that stops people!
Excuse me while I go do a bump before I smoke a joint........ :noway:
Exactly. Prohibition DOESN'T WORK! Haven't we learned that in 100+ years of prohibitory laws? Alcohol prohibition actually INCREASED alcoholism rates!
Obviously, prohibition is a failure for both alcohol and drugs. However, that's not what this is, so let's meet straw man.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man0 -
This is possibly one of the dumbest pieces of proposed legislation that I ever heard of. Like we need more laws governing the people. And what will it accomplish? Nothing. Restrictions on what people eat? Really?!!
Here's a thought: How about instead of reducing the time for recess at schools to 15 min (Yes, that's all the recess my kids get.) how about increasing it to an hour? How about giving incentives for kids who are involved in sports? How about incentives for kids who make healthy choices? I don't know. Maybe that's just crazy talk. *rolling eyes*
And who is going to mandate recess time and pay for school sports facilities if not the government? I find this attitude of many in the US that it is 'us' vs 'the government' to be very strange. The government IS us. Its the mechanism by which we can act collectively to achieve things that individually would be impossible!0 -
Does NYC really have that much money, that they can afford the policing costs of this? Imagine getting busted for selling 17oz of soda. Selling 4-12 oz cups and a cup holder is ok?, but selling one 48 oz cup is against the law? All this does is increase the garbage in the environment.0
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What ever happened to PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY!
It is NOT the governments job to regulate what and how much we eat! If I want to overeat, having a ban on x-large soda is not going to stop me...nor will it stop anyone else.
Get the governement out of my life...if I wanted the governement to control it, I will just go live in a communist country!
What is next? ...x-large bags of candy, big macs, whoppers, large pizza with toppings,etc....????
I agree with this 100%0 -
It is a ruse to get more tax money (people will buy 2 16 oz instead of 1 20 oz) and to slowly erode our freedom.
As you say, people are still free to drink as much soda as they like. This is a 'nudge' in the right direction. Everyone will end up paying the huge economic costs of obesity... even people who aren't fat themselves!0 -
While I agree with the purpose behind it, I don't necessarily agree with the government trying to control what people consume. The people who are purchasing these drinks most likely know that it's bad for them but probably don't care. If they don't want to help themselves, I don't think that the government should waste its time and resources trying to step in. People who either don't think that they have a problem or know it and don't care will always find a way to get what they want regardless of the policies in place.0
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What ever happened to PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY!
It is NOT the governments job to regulate what and how much we eat! If I want to overeat, having a ban on x-large soda is not going to stop me...nor will it stop anyone else.
Get the governement out of my life...if I wanted the governement to control it, I will just go live in a communist country!
What is next? ...x-large bags of candy, big macs, whoppers, large pizza with toppings,etc....????
Yeah, God forbid Americans learned any lessons from countries who have stayed slim by spending tax money on building SIDEWALKS so people don't have to drive everywhere, or MANDATING physical education in schools, or REGULATING fast food advertising... A socialist nightmare! (That just happens to result in people being healthier, happier, and more productive!)0 -
I've never had soda (yes really)... however...
I really don't think the government should be able to dictate what people put in their bodies... especially soda... I mean come on... if a person wants to drink that much, they will drink it regardless of where they buy it and how much they buy at a time. A person has to want to change their habits, it's not going to work if it's forced upon them...
You can't force people to lead healthy lives, they have to want it...
I don't know what the answer to this is, but I don't think it's a government that control our lives this way. Dangerous path....
It's not banning anything. It's a regulation on item sizing. You will still be able to get as fat as you want drinking as much soda as you want.
How, exactly, is a "regulation on item sizing" constitutional? It is a ban. It's a ban on bulk packaging, if you like, but it's a ban. And the government has no business banning things that don't harm the person or property of a non-consenting other.0
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