Not sure why whole wheat pasta is better

mikek333
mikek333 Posts: 78 Member
I always thought is was the fact that whole wheat has a much lower glycemic index than white. But according to the info on the Southbeach Diet website, (which should be reputable) this is what I found:

The glycemic index of whole wheat spaghetti is 37, white spaghetti is 41. Not much difference, I would go with whichever one I preferred to eat.

As far as rice goes, brown rice is 55, white rice is 58. Again, not much difference. I happen to like brown rice better, but where I live it's much easier to find restaurants that serve white rice.

For bread, multigrain is 48, whole grain is 50, and white is 71. I think that's a big difference between white and the others.

If there is another reason why whole wheat pasta or brown rice are better than their white counterparts, I would appreciate it if someone chimed in.

Thanks!
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  • afcgirl
    afcgirl Posts: 31 Member
    I personally don't think it is better. I avoid all pasta, bread and rice. I think nutritionists say that you can eat whole grains/brown rice because they don't want to admit that low carb diets are better than low fat diets after years of saying the opposite :smile: .
  • bathsheba_c
    bathsheba_c Posts: 1,873 Member
    Whole grains have more nutrients, especially fiber. The overall result is that the whole grains are more filling, even though the calories and glycemic index are pretty much the same.
  • bm99
    bm99 Posts: 597 Member
    Yeah, I thought it was because of the fiber and nutrients. The calories are similar but at least whole grain isn't empty calories. You're getting some bang for your buck
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    In both cases, they are mostly a starchy carb. The difference is that the whole grain has more fiber and slightly higher nutritients. The whole grains also have phytic acid which can inhibit the absorbtion of minerals in the digestive tract. However, the amount and frequency of consumption would have to very high for that to make any significant difference. If you want a little more fiber, eat the whole grain products. If you don't really care about that, eat what you like.
  • I try not to eat a whole lot of pasta either, but when I have to have it, I eat Ronzoni's Garden Delight pasta. It's made with veggies so there's a serving a vegetable in serving of pasta. Tastes good, too. The carb count is the same as regular pasta, though.

    You can check it out here: http://ronzonigardendelight.newworldpasta.com/pasta_story.cfm
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    Whole grains have more nutrients, especially fiber. The overall result is that the whole grains are more filling, even though the calories and glycemic index are pretty much the same.

    Just a point of clarification but fiber is not a nutrient.
  • wackyfunster
    wackyfunster Posts: 944 Member
    thermic effect of food
  • wackyfunster
    wackyfunster Posts: 944 Member
    I personally don't think it is better. I avoid all pasta, bread and rice. I think nutritionists say that you can eat whole grains/brown rice because they don't want to admit that low carb diets are better than low fat diets after years of saying the opposite :smile: .
    Man, I know... eating 500g+ of carbs has made me SO UNHEALTHY... glad we have people like you to point out the evils of bad nasty bad carbohydrates for us! And low carb is so great because it is IMPOSSIBLE to gain fat while eating tons of crappy high-fat foods... all the low-carbers are so fit, and you NEVER see a bodybuilder-looking person who eats a lot of carbs.

    WHARRGARBL
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    I always thought is was the fact that whole wheat has a much lower glycemic index than white. But according to the info on the Southbeach Diet website, (which should be reputable) this is what I found:

    The glycemic index of whole wheat spaghetti is 37, white spaghetti is 41. Not much difference, I would go with whichever one I preferred to eat.

    As far as rice goes, brown rice is 55, white rice is 58. Again, not much difference. I happen to like brown rice better, but where I live it's much easier to find restaurants that serve white rice.

    For bread, multigrain is 48, whole grain is 50, and white is 71. I think that's a big difference between white and the others.

    If there is another reason why whole wheat pasta or brown rice are better than their white counterparts, I would appreciate it if someone chimed in.

    Thanks!

    What relevance do you think the GI rating of a food has to the avg person?
  • thelovelyLIZ
    thelovelyLIZ Posts: 1,227 Member
    More fiber, less processing and therefore less stripped of nutrients.
  • astrampe
    astrampe Posts: 2,169 Member
    I personally don't think it is better. I avoid all pasta, bread and rice. I think nutritionists say that you can eat whole grains/brown rice because they don't want to admit that low carb diets are better than low fat diets after years of saying the opposite :smile: .
    Man, I know... eating 500g+ of carbs has made me SO UNHEALTHY... glad we have people like you to point out the evils of bad nasty bad carbohydrates for us! And low carb is so great because it is IMPOSSIBLE to gain fat while eating tons of crappy high-fat foods... all the low-carbers are so fit, and you NEVER see a bodybuilder-looking person who eats a lot of carbs.

    WHARRGARBL

    LOL! This.... Off to go eat lots of carbs....:flowerforyou:
  • SPNLuver83
    SPNLuver83 Posts: 2,050 Member
    FIBER!

    more fiber in whole wheat. Your body digests whole wheat better, and slower, keeping you full longer and allowing your body to get more of the good stuff in it.
  • toysbigkid
    toysbigkid Posts: 545 Member
    bumping!
  • RonSwanson66
    RonSwanson66 Posts: 1,150 Member
    FIBER!

    more fiber in whole wheat. Your body digests whole wheat better,

    Your body doesn't digest fiber.
  • moeheep
    moeheep Posts: 34 Member
    Bottom line..eat pasta if you want to....eat ice cream if you want to......eat pizza if you want to...I do

    Weight loss = calories out greater than calories in.

    eat 5000 cals a day...... burn of 5500....... you will lose weight.

    Not sure why everyone has to make this so much harder than it really is.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    FIBER!

    more fiber in whole wheat. Your body digests whole wheat better,

    Your body doesn't digest fiber.

    Totally! That is one of the benefits of fiber. A feeling of fullness with out nutrients.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    Bottom line..eat pasta if you want to....eat ice cream if you want to......eat pizza if you want to...I do

    Weight loss = calories out greater than calories in.

    eat 5000 cals a day...... burn of 5500....... you will lose weight.

    Not sure why everyone has to make this so much harder than it really is.

    What?? You mean there is no silver bullet?? lol
  • mikek333
    mikek333 Posts: 78 Member
    Here's a pretty good lit review from JAMA, a peer-reviewed journal on the relevance of GI on people:
    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?volume=287&issue=18&page=2414
  • megmay2591
    megmay2591 Posts: 621 Member
    I can't remember exactly where I read it, but it was from a reputable place, that said eating whole pasta and rice does not have much of a difference. Like you have pointed out, as for bread there's a much bigger difference so it's better to eat wheat than white.
  • monty619
    monty619 Posts: 1,308 Member
    its not... its completely overrated unless ur pre-diabetic or a diabetic.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    For me, the only difference between whole wheat pasta and regular is that I don't much LIKE the whole wheat kind, so I'd be less likely to eat a lot of it. :ohwell:
  • EnchantedEvening
    EnchantedEvening Posts: 671 Member
    Whole wheat pasta, brown rice, and wheat bread leave me feeling much fuller for much longer. I also don't need as big a portion, since it's so filling. Those points plus the fiber make whole grains the healthier option.
  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    its not that it has a significantly lower gi content, but that overall its healthier and the body processes the sugars in it a little differently (not as quickly). I know my hubbys diabetic nutritionist gave a more complete answer when we asked her about it, but that was about the long and short of it.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Here's a pretty good lit review from JAMA, a peer-reviewed journal on the relevance of GI on people:
    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?volume=287&issue=18&page=2414
    Diaz EO et. al. Glycaemic index effects on fuel partitioning in humans. Obes Rev. (2006) 7:219-26.

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-789X.2006.00225.x/full

    Summary
    The purpose of this review was to examine the role of glycaemic index in fuel partitioning and body composition with emphasis on fat oxidation/storage in humans. This relationship is based on the hypothesis postulating that a higher serum glucose and insulin response induced by high-glycaemic carbohydrates promotes lower fat oxidation and higher fat storage in comparison with low-glycaemic carbohydrates. Thus, high-glycaemic index meals could contribute to the maintenance of excess weight in obese individuals and/or predispose obesity-prone subjects to weight gain. Several studies comparing the effects of meals with contrasting glycaemic carbohydrates for hours, days or weeks have failed to demonstrate any differential effect on fuel partitioning when either substrate oxidation or body composition measurements were performed. Apparently, the glycaemic index-induced serum insulin differences are not sufficient in magnitude and/or duration to modify fuel oxidation.
    Long-term effects of 2 energy-restricted diets differing in glycemic load on dietary adherence, body composition, and metabolism in CALERIE: a 1-y randomized controlled trial

    http://www.ajcn.org/content/85/4/1023.abstract?ijkey=57903af923cb2fcdc065ffd37b00a32e22f4c5cf&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha

    Conclusions:These findings provide more detailed evidence to suggest that diets differing substantially in glycemic load induce comparable long-term weight loss.
    No effect of a diet with a reduced glycaemic index on satiety, energy intake and body weight in overweight and obese women.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17923862

    CONCLUSION:
    This study provides no evidence to support an effect of a reduced GI diet on satiety, energy intake or body weight in overweight/obese women. Claims that the GI of the diet per se may have specific effects on body weight may therefore be misleading.
  • carld256
    carld256 Posts: 855 Member
    There's nothing wrong with pasta, even for diabetics.
  • bathsheba_c
    bathsheba_c Posts: 1,873 Member
    FIBER!

    more fiber in whole wheat. Your body digests whole wheat better,

    Your body doesn't digest fiber.

    Totally! That is one of the benefits of fiber. A feeling of fullness with out nutrients.
    Your body doesn't digest fiber, but insoluble fiber helps your body digest by pushing all the other food through your system. :)
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    For me, the only difference between whole wheat pasta and regular is that I don't much LIKE the whole wheat kind, so I'd be less likely to eat a lot of it. :ohwell:

    I'm with ya girl! Besides, my Nona would come back from the grave and smack me in the side of the head and ask "tu se pazzo??" (Are you crazy?) :laugh:
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    FIBER!

    more fiber in whole wheat. Your body digests whole wheat better,

    Your body doesn't digest fiber.

    Totally! That is one of the benefits of fiber. A feeling of fullness with out nutrients.
    Your body doesn't digest fiber, but insoluble fiber helps your body digest by pushing all the other food through your system. :)

    You would be correct! That is one of the other benefits.
  • MileyClimb
    MileyClimb Posts: 414 Member
    wite rice is made from bleach as weill as your white breads, flour etc. that is why most go with whole wheat and why they say it's better for you.
  • wackyfunster
    wackyfunster Posts: 944 Member
    Not sure why everyone has to make this so much harder than it really is.
    Ignorance and self-sabotage