Rushfit vs. TapouT XT - My review/opinion/observation.

eksproductions

Just received Insanity, but after reading this thread, and reading the following review I think I would be better off returning it and ordering Rushfit. Thoughts?

This is a great comparison:

http://www.acefitness.org/certifiednewsarticle/1443/p90x-insanity-and-rushfit-a-side-by-side

contingencyplan

Just received Insanity, but after reading this thread, and reading the following review I think I would be better off returning it and ordering Rushfit. Thoughts?

This is a great comparison:

http://www.acefitness.org/certifiednewsarticle/1443/p90x-insanity-and-rushfit-a-side-by-side

Yes, I would do that just based entirely on how injury prone Insanity is compared to other workouts. That comparison is no joke. Insanity is not all that well put together and the only reason people see results from it is because of massive calorie burn during cardio workouts. It's not safe at all.

eksproductions

Yep, just ordered Rushfit!!

girlfighter1990

Im not a fan of DVDs but I did see the Tap out video, its a very poor grade of training for MMA... My suggestion would be find a good gym to get a intense MMA Fitness workout. I myself go to a gym called MMAXOUT Fitness in Pennsylvania, its the real deal I lost 48 pounds in 4 1/2 months. Its much more fun training with people looking for similar goals and it pushes you harder to get in shape faster.

Good Luck with your Training
Jen Swambach

Kempossible

Bump for later ! great post!

Tat2dDom0105

TTT

dthaverne

Ok, I want to start working out and so far I like the reviews on TO and RF. I've Tried insanity and I hated all of the jumping because it really makes my knees hurt. Here is my situation: I get bored easily, I have a busy schedule, I want to get rid of the jiggles in my arm, legs, belly and back, I don't want to purchase more weights then the ones I already have and my space is limited. What would you suggest?

contingencyplan

Ok, I want to start working out and so far I like the reviews on TO and RF. I've Tried insanity and I hated all of the jumping because it really makes my knees hurt. Here is my situation: I get bored easily, I have a busy schedule, I want to get rid of the jiggles in my arm, legs, belly and back, I don't want to purchase more weights then the ones I already have and my space is limited. What would you suggest?

If space is limited then they are both suitable for your needs because neither of them require more floor space than what it takes to lay a yoga mat in the middle of your floor. If you have enough space to get down on the ground and do pushups, you can do these workouts. Both of these workouts have one "Plyo" day a week that has you doing jumping exercises similar to what you did in Insanity. With TXT it's virtually the same thing, blisteringly fast paced high impact work. With Rushfit it's very different. It's more traditional, orthodox plyometrics, which have a very slow pace, use REAL plyo exercises, and have you take a few moments to compose yourself in between each rep. Basically it's like comparing how athletes train vs. glorified high impact aerobics. Also, with Rushfit, you only do the Plyo workout in the intermediate and advanced rotations. With Rushfit there are 3 different 8-week schedules you can choose to follow depending on your fitness level, and a few of the DVDs in the series are not used when following the beginner rotation. That's one of them. Regarding getting rid of "jiggle" that is more about diet than exercise.

perfect_storm

Thank you, I have Tap Out but have yet to do it. Now I feel inspired.

Tat2dDom0105

I'm a 43 year old Martial Artist, who is in decent shape (i've lost almost 30 lbs), but wants to supplement his training with a Martial Arts-based workout system. Now, i see you've been comparing Rushfit with Tapout XT, but i was thinking of getting Les Mills Combat instead. Which one of the three would you recommend?

contingencyplan

I'm a 43 year old Martial Artist, who is in decent shape (i've lost almost 30 lbs), but wants to supplement his training with a Martial Arts-based workout system. Now, i see you've been comparing Rushfit with Tapout XT, but i was thinking of getting Les Mills Combat instead. Which one of the three would you recommend?

Les Mills Combat is a cardio-specific kickboxing program that basically is a home version of the Les Mills Bodycombat classes held in gyms. It's not as good as the actual classes conducted in class rooms, and it is pretty much strictly cardio, so if your regular training does not include strength training it's not ideal. Think of it as Tae Bo only more resembling actual kickboxing. The question is how do you plan to get your strength training in? Combat is ideal if you already have strength training you're doing on your own.

Dawid83

I'm busy with week four of Rushfit and I am really seeing and feeling overall improvements in my body. (I started Rushfit after completing Body Revolution, which I did as after many years of doing nothing.)

I enjoy my training dvd's, they keep me motivated and not close to being as boring as going to a gym. So my question is, which would be the best exercise dvd for me to do once I've completed Rushfit? I'm a 29 year old male (my profile has me as female, who knows why and how to change it?!)

sixpacklady

bump

sixpacklady

I'm busy with week four of Rushfit and I am really seeing and feeling overall improvements in my body. (I started Rushfit after completing Body Revolution, which I did as after many years of doing nothing.)

I enjoy my training dvd's, they keep me motivated and not close to being as boring as going to a gym. So my question is, which would be the best exercise dvd for me to do once I've completed Rushfit? I'm a 29 year old male (my profile has me as female, who knows why and how to change it?!)

Home> Settings > Diet /Fitness Profile will help you to change to Male, haha...

Dawid83

Home> Settings > Diet /Fitness Profile will help you to change to Male, haha...

Yahooooooooo!!!!! I'm a man!

Thanks

seanburn

Hi Contengency,

I sent this too you as a PM but thought I'd post it here as your reply would probably benefit others as well. I wanted to ask you a couple questions. If you're too busy to respond I understand, but any info would be appreciated! I just purchased Tapout XT and will be starting it on Monday. Currently, for the last few weeks I have been going to the gym doing a 5 day weight lifting workout. Before that I was doing kettle bell at home. I was planning on sticking with the Tapout routine for at least the first month, doing the exercises in the morning. Along with that I would also like to go to them gym three times a week, doing two body groups a day, not super heavy but just enough to keep muscle. Do you think that would be ok? If I'm following the schedule can you recommend certain days that would be good to do the gym workouts on? After a month I may do a modified schedule like you mentioned in the thread, but I wanted to try the schedule and all the workouts first for a month, just to give it a shot.

Also, if you were combining some of the tapout workouts with a 3 day weight workout, do you have any suggestions as to how you would schedule it? I'm thinking something a long the lines of three days at the gym and three days of tap out.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Sean

contingencyplan

I'm busy with week four of Rushfit and I am really seeing and feeling overall improvements in my body. (I started Rushfit after completing Body Revolution, which I did as after many years of doing nothing.)

I enjoy my training dvd's, they keep me motivated and not close to being as boring as going to a gym. So my question is, which would be the best exercise dvd for me to do once I've completed Rushfit? I'm a 29 year old male (my profile has me as female, who knows why and how to change it?!)

Can you view my blog? In there you will find a list of all my highest ranked DVD workout plans as the most recent entry. If you can't let me know and I'll post it.

EDIT: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/contingencyplan

Here you go in case you can't access it any other way

contingencyplan

Hi Contengency,

I sent this too you as a PM but thought I'd post it here as your reply would probably benefit others as well. I wanted to ask you a couple questions. If you're too busy to respond I understand, but any info would be appreciated! I just purchased Tapout XT and will be starting it on Monday. Currently, for the last few weeks I have been going to the gym doing a 5 day weight lifting workout. Before that I was doing kettle bell at home. I was planning on sticking with the Tapout routine for at least the first month, doing the exercises in the morning. Along with that I would also like to go to them gym three times a week, doing two body groups a day, not super heavy but just enough to keep muscle. Do you think that would be ok? If I'm following the schedule can you recommend certain days that would be good to do the gym workouts on? After a month I may do a modified schedule like you mentioned in the thread, but I wanted to try the schedule and all the workouts first for a month, just to give it a shot.

Also, if you were combining some of the tapout workouts with a 3 day weight workout, do you have any suggestions as to how you would schedule it? I'm thinking something a long the lines of three days at the gym and three days of tap out.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Sean

I answered in PM but generally speaking it's not a good idea to combine any 5-6 day a week scheduled high intensity workout program like this with weight days in the gym as your muscles won't get the rest they need to see optimal gains from your gym workouts, which should take precedence over these workouts. It's best to take the cardio-only DVDs in the workout plan that feature little to no resistance training and do them to supplement the weight training in whatever order you choose. Just remember to NEVER EVER EVER do them within 48 hours before or after leg day in the gym as your lower body muscle groups are used extensively in any cardio workout and definitely need their recovery.

contingencyplan

Home> Settings > Diet /Fitness Profile will help you to change to Male, haha...

Yahooooooooo!!!!! I'm a man!

Thanks

Glad the operation was a success

Tat2dDom0105

I'm a 43 year old Martial Artist, who is in decent shape (i've lost almost 30 lbs), but wants to supplement his training with a Martial Arts-based workout system. Now, i see you've been comparing Rushfit with Tapout XT, but i was thinking of getting Les Mills Combat instead. Which one of the three would you recommend?

Les Mills Combat is a cardio-specific kickboxing program that basically is a home version of the Les Mills Bodycombat classes held in gyms. It's not as good as the actual classes conducted in class rooms, and it is pretty much strictly cardio, so if your regular training does not include strength training it's not ideal. Think of it as Tae Bo only more resembling actual kickboxing. The question is how do you plan to get your strength training in? Combat is ideal if you already have strength training you're doing on your own.

I don't do that much strength training, so which program would you recommend then?

contingencyplan

I'm a 43 year old Martial Artist, who is in decent shape (i've lost almost 30 lbs), but wants to supplement his training with a Martial Arts-based workout system. Now, i see you've been comparing Rushfit with Tapout XT, but i was thinking of getting Les Mills Combat instead. Which one of the three would you recommend?

Les Mills Combat is a cardio-specific kickboxing program that basically is a home version of the Les Mills Bodycombat classes held in gyms. It's not as good as the actual classes conducted in class rooms, and it is pretty much strictly cardio, so if your regular training does not include strength training it's not ideal. Think of it as Tae Bo only more resembling actual kickboxing. The question is how do you plan to get your strength training in? Combat is ideal if you already have strength training you're doing on your own.

I don't do that much strength training, so which program would you recommend then?

Rushfit has a schedule that allows you to do high intensity cardio on your off days (which would be good for your actual MMA training). TapouT XT doesn't really leave room for that but you CAN make it work if you're in a pinch. TapouT XT is more value-conscious because the only equipment needed is bands which are cheaper than dumbbells.

To be honest though I don't think these programs are suitable for ACTUAL MMA training. They're MMA-THEMED programs for conventional exercisers who want an MMA theme to their workouts. But actual MMA fighters don't supplement their training with stuff like this. They high intensity, dynamic strength training using off balance loads using either sandbags or kettlebells or something else along those lines. You'd be better off getting a few kettlebells or a sandbag training system from either Ultimate Sandbag or Brute Force Sandbag and a DVD that guides you through high intensity workouts with them.

fantasma62

I had knee scope in early January to repair a meniscal tear. Today the doctor released me to go ahead and start jogging, and to resume my regular life. However, I really would like to begin working with RF. My therapist knows P90X and Insanity, but not RF. She wouldn't recommend Insanity due to its impact on the knees, so I am looking for opinions on the impact that Rushfit, which I purchased already, could have in my surgically repaired knee. I have read your review (very comprehensive...thanks for the work you put into it) plus many others, and have yet to see anyone recommend not to do it because of the joint impact, but have also not seen anyone advocating its use, post procedure.

Earlier this year I completed 54 days of Insanity, before my traveling schedule interfered. Yes, 54!!! LOL...No, the knee damage did not occur due to that. I did my last day at the end of March of last year and did not hurt myself. My injury occurred in October.

In any case, it would be nice to hear from others who may have gone through something similar and of course, Contingency's opinion here...

contingencyplan

I had knee scope in early January to repair a meniscal tear. Today the doctor released me to go ahead and start jogging, and to resume my regular life. However, I really would like to begin working with RF. My therapist knows P90X and Insanity, but not RF. She wouldn't recommend Insanity due to its impact on the knees, so I am looking for opinions on the impact that Rushfit, which I purchased already, could have in my surgically repaired knee. I have read your review (very comprehensive...thanks for the work you put into it) plus many others, and have yet to see anyone recommend not to do it because of the joint impact, but have also not seen anyone advocating its use, post procedure.

Earlier this year I completed 54 days of Insanity, before my traveling schedule interfered. Yes, 54!!! LOL...No, the knee damage did not occur due to that. I did my last day at the end of March of last year and did not hurt myself. My injury occurred in October.

In any case, it would be nice to hear from others who may have gone through something similar and of course, Contingency's opinion here...

Rushfit only has one high impact workout in the whole rotation and that workout is omitted from the schedule completely if you follow the beginner rotation (except for on the second to last day of the whole 8 week rotation). If you do the intermediate one they have you doing it once every couple weeks and advanced they have you doing it once a week. Other than that, there is no high impact exercise found anywhere in the program.

fantasma62

Thank you very much. By the time I get to my eighth week, I should not only be able to do Rushfit, but also every other high impact exercise...

srmojorisin

I'm considering doing the Tapout XT workout because it is more cardio oriented with an emphasis on care strength. While researching it I found this great thread that you have going here. I've read through the whole thread and I see that you are very critical of the schedule they provide. This particularly paragraph really grabbed my attention,

"Will you see results following the schedule? Sure you will. But you can see results that are just as good, if not better, if you closely analyze the strengths and weaknesses inherent in the overall scheduling format and where it unnecessarily borrowed from P90X. Why do extra work when you're not getting any better of workout? Sometimes it's a case of work smart, not hard. I do not do anything workout related without studying it extensively and learning the science behind it. More people should be this way too. "

Now from what I've read it is your opinion to completely toss out the ab workout since it is unnecessary to supplement the already core intensive strength training videos. But what I would like to know is if you were to "re-schedule" the workouts, in which order would you put them in order to get better results and what would be the basis of that order? Thanks for your help in advance.

contingencyplan

I'm considering doing the Tapout XT workout because it is more cardio oriented with an emphasis on care strength. While researching it I found this great thread that you have going here. I've read through the whole thread and I see that you are very critical of the schedule they provide. This particularly paragraph really grabbed my attention,

"Will you see results following the schedule? Sure you will. But you can see results that are just as good, if not better, if you closely analyze the strengths and weaknesses inherent in the overall scheduling format and where it unnecessarily borrowed from P90X. Why do extra work when you're not getting any better of workout? Sometimes it's a case of work smart, not hard. I do not do anything workout related without studying it extensively and learning the science behind it. More people should be this way too. "

Now from what I've read it is your opinion to completely toss out the ab workout since it is unnecessary to supplement the already core intensive strength training videos. But what I would like to know is if you were to "re-schedule" the workouts, in which order would you put them in order to get better results and what would be the basis of that order? Thanks for your help in advance.

Remove Plyo XT from Month 1 for another rest day, remove Ultimate Abs from the rotation entirely.

During Month 2, look at Cardio XT, Plyo XT, and Ripped Conditioning. There's no reason to have all three in one week. You can remove one for another rest day. 6 day a week workout schedules are pretty pointless and don't really give much benefit. 4-5 is more ideal. Look for the weak link workout each week and omit it entirely. Remove all redundancy, which includes Ultimate Abs, and given the intensity of the cardio you only need two cardio workouts per week. Any more and you're putting some strain on the CNS with the tight schedule.

Lil2868

I was wondering if you have any suggestions for me. I have 15-20 pounds to loose. I want to get lean and toned, not beefed up. I tried insanity and only made it through the first week. Solo much cardio, it kicked my *kitten*! When I saw made it through I mean like only 20-30 minutes of it . Haha. I ordered the Rockin Body video, thinking it may be easier for me. Do you have any opinions about it, or can you suggest anything else I can try? I wanna do 5 days a week at 30 minutes a day and tone up and lean.
Thanks

contingencyplan

I was wondering if you have any suggestions for me. I have 15-20 pounds to loose. I want to get lean and toned, not beefed up. I tried insanity and only made it through the first week. Solo much cardio, it kicked my *kitten*! When I saw made it through I mean like only 20-30 minutes of it . Haha. I ordered the Rockin Body video, thinking it may be easier for me. Do you have any opinions about it, or can you suggest anything else I can try? I wanna do 5 days a week at 30 minutes a day and tone up and lean.
Thanks

I lost about 30 pounds in 6 months combining the Rockin' Body cardio workouts with strength training. It's definitely doable. It's a solid cardio workout but no program is completely without strength training so you should do that in addition. Bear in mind it is impossible for you to bulk up while strength training unless you eat at a calorie surplus.

Lil2868

Thanks! What strength program should I do? I'm at a total loss with all this.:0/

contingencyplan

Depends, do you have access to a gym? And if not, what equipment do you have access to?