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July24Lioness

First of all, the making of this post was directed at me when it was made because of another thread where I posted my opinion. Once again, you have no idea of what you are talking about.

I don't think the world revolves around me and we were having a debate, there was no arguing going on. Both sides presenting their own evidence.

I don't know where you get that we were arguing - a debate is very differently presented.

Once again, you misread the information presented.


P.S. - You are not the only one with PMS missy.

good god people......so everyone has differently beliefs and everyone eats differently if it isnt going directly into your body why do u care so much,,,,,,,,if no one is ASKING YOU for advice why do u care so much?....if someone has a diffferent belief let them have one......quit arguing for pages upon pages of who's right and who's wrong, because by the end of the day after all the fuss about who's right and who's wrong neither one of u are really going to budge the other one into believing otherwise...... so how about u both just nicely state what u believe to be true and then let others choose for themselves as to what they believe is true......and LIONESS whyyyyyy do u always assume something is meant to u and about u or if someone is aggressive that it's to u......first page within 4 posts u thought it was all about it.....i read the post and knew right away Jmax was talking to Tom....i;m going to say this in the nicest way possible ............the world does not revolve around u......lol oi vey reading this thread got me all annoyed and now im ranting lmao *leaves thread*

KatWood

Hasian- I don't think I've ever heard you rant.

nah, you're a sweetheart.

:blushing: :blushing: lol now i feel bad i should go and revise that whole post lmao but its gotten quiet so maybe it worked :laugh:

Nothing wrong with a good rant every once in a while. :happy:

mrd232

I was in the debate club in high school.

That could explain why I'm such an @$$hole in forums.

So please excuse my flagrant opinion.

July24Lioness

I was in the debate club in high school.

That could explain why I'm such an @$$hole in forums.

So please excuse my flagrant opinion.

I was also, LOL.

I am just a very honest and blunt person, in real life and on the internet forums.

Only certain people can appreciate a person's straight forwardness and bluntness. Most people want everything sugar-coated for them, both literally and figuratively and when it is not said in that flowery and fluffy manner, people get upset.

It sure won't change how I present myself on this site or any other.

foxyforce

I was in the debate club in high school.

That could explain why I'm such an @$$hole in forums.

So please excuse my flagrant opinion.

I was also, LOL.

I am just a very honest and blunt person, in real life and on the internet forums.

Only certain people can appreciate a person's straight forwardness and bluntness. Most people want everything sugar-coated for them, both literally and figuratively and when it is not said in that flowery and fluffy manner, people get upset.

It sure won't change how I present myself on this site or any other.

i think it is great for people to stick true to themselves, but that will always result in conflict, hands down, which is ok too

but, there is a difference between sugar coating something...and being appropriate.

it may be unrelated to the topic at hand, but

hasiangirl

lioness...i am not just referring to this page...i'm referring to every "debated" topic i've seen you in... and for some reason all the ones i've seen have eventually gotten shut down ....

July24Lioness

I was in the debate club in high school.

That could explain why I'm such an @$$hole in forums.

So please excuse my flagrant opinion.

I was also, LOL.

I am just a very honest and blunt person, in real life and on the internet forums.

Only certain people can appreciate a person's straight forwardness and bluntness. Most people want everything sugar-coated for them, both literally and figuratively and when it is not said in that flowery and fluffy manner, people get upset.

It sure won't change how I present myself on this site or any other.

i think it is great for people to stick true to themselves, but that will always result in conflict, hands down, which is ok too

but, there is a difference between sugar coating something...and being appropriate.

it may be unrelated to the topic at hand, but

I have said nothing inappropriate on this thread and neither has anyone else until this morning. I have stated my facts and MetalPalace has stated his. Others have stated theirs also some leaning toward my way of thinking and others leaning toward his way of thinking.............

July24Lioness

lioness...i am not just referring to this page...i'm referring to every "debated" topic i've seen you in... and for some reason all the ones i've seen have eventually gotten shut down ....

There are plenty of debated topics that I have been in and am presently in that are still ongoing.

What you don't see is the PM's with people coming to me telling me how I have opened their eyes to label reading and being more careful in what they are eating.

I have also had several apologies stating they were wrong to have bashed me in the past.

hasiangirl

lioness...i am not just referring to this page...i'm referring to every "debated" topic i've seen you in... and for some reason all the ones i've seen have eventually gotten shut down ....

There are plenty of debated topics that I have been in and am presently in that are still ongoing.

What you don't see is the PM's with people coming to me telling me how I have opened their eyes to label reading and being more careful in what they are eating.

I have also had several apologies stating they were wrong to have bashed me in the past.

like i told you in the PM 4 topics that you started to "debate" in have been closed down in a month and a half.. i think thats quite a bit....if there's no rudeness involved then would they be shut down?

and I refuse to be nice to someone who doesnt seem to be nice to others for the majority of time... like i said before there is blunt and then there is being rude....anyway if u would like to further talk about this i am not going to take up thread space discussing it...u may PM if u want any explanations or examples......

KatWood

That's fantastic. So we have heard both sides of this argument a million times. Unless someone has something NEW to add, how about we agree to disagree and get on with our lives? I mean a healthy debate is one thing but enough is enough. :grumble:

I think the one thing we can agree on is that time will tell. I look forward to the research that will come out 100 yrs from now to either support or refute different diets. Time and a large sample size is what is required to really highlight the facts, whatever they end up being.

Anyways, happy ALMOST - Friday everyone!:drinker:

foxyforce

Anyways, happy ALMOST - Friday everyone!:drinker:

yayyyyyyy

arewethereyet

lioness...i am not just referring to this page...i'm referring to every "debated" topic i've seen you in... and for some reason all the ones i've seen have eventually gotten shut down ....

There are plenty of debated topics that I have been in and am presently in that are still ongoing.

What you don't see is the PM's with people coming to me telling me how I have opened their eyes to label reading and being more careful in what they are eating.

I have also had several apologies stating they were wrong to have bashed me in the past.

I will admit to being one of those people:blushing: . I think the more information we are provided, the better choices we can make. Sometimes we (I) have a bad day or the words are harder on white page than if spoken from the heart in person, but what it all boils down to is learning.

We should always listen and learn. Provided we are respectful of one another.

That being said, I will eat a balanced diet of 40/30/30 and read the posts if I wish or ignore if they piss me off

foxyforce

lioness...i am not just referring to this page...i'm referring to every "debated" topic i've seen you in... and for some reason all the ones i've seen have eventually gotten shut down ....

There are plenty of debated topics that I have been in and am presently in that are still ongoing.

What you don't see is the PM's with people coming to me telling me how I have opened their eyes to label reading and being more careful in what they are eating.

I have also had several apologies stating they were wrong to have bashed me in the past.

I will admit to being one of those people:blushing: . I think the more information we are provided, the better choices we can make. Sometimes we (I) have a bad day or the words are harder on white page than if spoken from the heart in person, but what it all boils down to is learning.

We should always listen and learn. Provided we are respectful of one another.

That being said, I will eat a balanced diet of 40/30/30 and read the posts if I wish or ignore if they piss me off

knowledge is power...so true. but! there are lots of streams of knowledge, and as long as no one forces theirs as being a conclusive argument, then i think it is ok and that we can all be aware of each others research on this topic

arewethereyet

lioness...i am not just referring to this page...i'm referring to every "debated" topic i've seen you in... and for some reason all the ones i've seen have eventually gotten shut down ....

There are plenty of debated topics that I have been in and am presently in that are still ongoing.

What you don't see is the PM's with people coming to me telling me how I have opened their eyes to label reading and being more careful in what they are eating.

I have also had several apologies stating they were wrong to have bashed me in the past.

I will admit to being one of those people:blushing: . I think the more information we are provided, the better choices we can make. Sometimes we (I) have a bad day or the words are harder on white page than if spoken from the heart in person, but what it all boils down to is learning.

We should always listen and learn. Provided we are respectful of one another.

That being said, I will eat a balanced diet of 40/30/30 and read the posts if I wish or ignore if they piss me off

knowledge is power...so true. but! there are lots of streams of knowledge, and as long as no one forces theirs as being a conclusive argument, then i think it is ok and that we can all be aware of each others research on this topic

Usually heated debate makes me want to know more!

July24Lioness

That's fantastic. So we have heard both sides of this argument a million times. Unless someone has something NEW to add, how about we agree to disagree and get on with our lives? I mean a healthy debate is one thing but enough is enough. :grumble:

I think the one thing we can agree on is that time will tell. I look forward to the research that will come out 100 yrs from now to either support or refute different diets. Time and a large sample size is what is required to really highlight the facts, whatever they end up being.

Anyways, happy ALMOST - Friday everyone!:drinker:

You are correct in that, that time will tell.

Personally speaking though, I see the failure of the Standard American Diet and the Low Fat mantra that has been touted for decades and instead of decreased instances of heart disease, diabetes, cancer and other illnesses - we are seeing more and more everyday.

July24Lioness

lioness...i am not just referring to this page...i'm referring to every "debated" topic i've seen you in... and for some reason all the ones i've seen have eventually gotten shut down ....

There are plenty of debated topics that I have been in and am presently in that are still ongoing.

What you don't see is the PM's with people coming to me telling me how I have opened their eyes to label reading and being more careful in what they are eating.

I have also had several apologies stating they were wrong to have bashed me in the past.

I will admit to being one of those people:blushing: . I think the more information we are provided, the better choices we can make. Sometimes we (I) have a bad day or the words are harder on white page than if spoken from the heart in person, but what it all boils down to is learning.

We should always listen and learn. Provided we are respectful of one another.

That being said, I will eat a balanced diet of 40/30/30 and read the posts if I wish or ignore if they piss me off

knowledge is power...so true. but! there are lots of streams of knowledge, and as long as no one forces theirs as being a conclusive argument, then i think it is ok and that we can all be aware of each others research on this topic

Usually heated debate makes me want to know more!

Me too!!!

metalpalace

oh i have such a bad joke lmao but i cant say it here lol

Say it! Oh you have to now! Don't deprive us of a good joke :happy:

metalpalace

That's fantastic. So we have heard both sides of this argument a million times. Unless someone has something NEW to add, how about we agree to disagree and get on with our lives? I mean a healthy debate is one thing but enough is enough. :grumble:

I think the one thing we can agree on is that time will tell. I look forward to the research that will come out 100 yrs from now to either support or refute different diets. Time and a large sample size is what is required to really highlight the facts, whatever they end up being.

Anyways, happy ALMOST - Friday everyone!:drinker:

Every day to me is friday, or saturday, whichever way I feel that particular day :laugh:

HealthyKt78

If there's no debate than what's the fun in reading it? Its like watching a movie or tv show. Who watches if there's no controversy? They don't make entertainment material without some type of conflict in it. I skip over the posts that have no 'meat' in them cause I honestly just don't care but when I see that there's a difference in opinion somewhere I become intrigued and I want to learn more so I know what side I stand on or whether I'm somewhere in the middle.
Those of us who just want everyone to agree and to not have debates obviously don't see the benefits. I learn much more in a debate setting than I ever will when there's no confrontation involved.