Calories burned exaggerations
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HRMs are a different story, I agree...its the people that say they burned 600 calories walking for 30 minutes and Im like...WHAAAATTT?!! Lol
If someone is overweight, out of shape, and just starting a workout program, they could be burning 600 in 30.
How does it hurt you?
Highly unlikely, in my opinion. 10 calories/minute is what most people MAX at. That's fit people, so obese people will burn more. But double? 20 calories/minute? I'd say maybe 15, and that's being generous.
It doesn't hurt us the readers, it hurts the dieter. The MFP plan of 'adding back' exercise doesn't leave you much room for deficit, especially if you're smallish and use BMR as your floor instead of 1200. Then you get people who don't understand why they have to do so much math and why they're not losing. And it sucks for them.
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Why is everyone jumping on the original poster! I get annoyed by people over exagerrating their burns as well. Even if they do claim to use a HRM. Can I just remove them? Yes but sometimes I might not want to.
I find it impossible to burn 1,000 calories doing housework. Seriously. No way. SOme people really do need some education on what they are acutally burning.
I'm confused as to why the calories burned by OTHER people, annoy you? I'm not a doctor or scientist but am pretty sure what they eat and burn won't cause you to gain/lose any weight.
And you, ma'am, are late to this discussion and need to actually read through the previous posts before posting. We covered that pages ago.
And you sir, shouldn't make an assumption.
I have read through every post but my phone at work rang before I could hit *reply*. I apologize if my not responding pages earlier bothered you.
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MFP tells me that the slow paced 90 minute walk me and my dog did today burned 345 calories. Apparently my usual fast 30 minute walk to the fields, the hours slower walk around the fields and the fast 30 minute walk home burns around 500 calories. Everything I've checked gives me roughly the same amount of calories burned for the walking I'm doing. I don't have a HRM so all I can do is go by averages. I don't eat all my exercise calories back though, just enough to keep me at a minimum of 1200 net calories per day.
I think if what you're doing is working then keep at it. If it's not then it's time to look at whether you're over estimating calories burned, under estimated calories eaten or what.0 -
Just FYI, I have a HRM. I don't consider myself to be particularly fit. I still burn around 10 cal/min doing Turbo Jam, and roughly 5 cal/min hiking. "shrugs" My husband, who is far larger than me and far less fit, burns about double what I do simply because he's about double my size.
I too burn about 10 calories/min at Turbo Jam and I'm not particularly fit or overweight and I'm one of those 'high HR genetically' people. Ok, I can buy a very large man burning 20/min., I guess. But 33/min.? That's a toughie. You'd have to be over 600 lbs. and running to burn 30, according to that Runners World article. I would think if someone could burn 33 calories/min. they'd have a problem keeping weight ON.
Lower resting heart rate, and lower blood pressure. (Not quite treatable low, but still low.) And, yeah, I'm presently a whole pound overweight.
Yeah, I'd find that 33 calories a minute is insane.0 -
I go by the machines numbers and MFP numbers.. Everything no matter how precise you make think it is,is an estimate. I am just an overweight person hoping to get healthy, so, I am moving and I am eating better...it's all good!0
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Yesterday I ran for 51 minutes. I run a pretty consistent 9 minute per mile pace.
HRM: 520 calories
MFP for running 9 min/mile for 51 minutes: 520 calories
I did a 30 day shred video once too:
HRM: 189 calories
MFP for circuit training for 25 minutes: 189 calories
I was kinda baffled that they were exactly the same! For some reason MFP is pretty accurate for me0 -
It also depends on how overweight you are. The more weight you have to lose, the more you'll burn compared to someone who doesn't have as much.
I have a co-worker that was upset because I was burning more calories than her doing cardio for the same length of time. I was burning 100+ more calories per session than she was. She'd also already lost 80 some pounds at that point, I hadn't.
It depends on more than that. My workout partner weighs less than me, and always burns more than me, but my heart rate doesn't go up as high as hers does.0 -
As long as I'm losing weight at 5-10 pounds a month I'm happy with what the machines say. As some have said already, If I stop losing I'll adjust. Right now I'll take any victory that I can escpecially if it makes me feel like I am accomplishing something and my scale agrees.0
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Your right about the buring 1000 calorie during an hr of zumba i am at 189 and i burn about 750 depending on the intensity of the song and class too lol so there u have it.0
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From that article:
Now that you understand why running burns 50 percent more calories per mile than walking, I hate to tell you that it's a mostly useless number. Sorry. We mislead ourselves when we talk about the total calorie burn (TCB) of exercise rather than the net calorie burn (NCB). To figure the NCB of any activity, you must subtract the resting metabolic calories your body would have burned, during the time of the workout, even if you had never gotten off the sofa.
You rarely hear anyone talk about the NCB of workouts, because this is America, dammit, and we like our numbers big and bold. Subtraction is not a popular activity. Certainly not among the infomercial hucksters and weight-loss gurus who want to promote exercise schemes. "It's bizarre that you hear so much about the gross calorie burn instead of the net," says Swain. "It could keep people from realizing why they're having such a hard time losing weight."
YEP.
This is true.. I will say my old HRM had me burning more than my newer one did. When Polar redid their HRM's, they recalculated so that your calories burned is minus your BMR.0 -
The problem with ellipticals is that the MFP calculator in no way takes into account your actual effort. I see people on them without any resistance just swinging away. You see other people working their tails off. No way that they are burning the same calories. Treadmills are more reliable because you can't fake speed on a treadmill.
Personally, I've used MFP's numbers for 4 1/2 months and I've lost about 19 lbs in 19 weeks. Weird huh?0 -
Your right about the buring 1000 calorie during an hr of zumba i am at 189 and i burn about 750 depending on the intensity of the song and class too lol so there u have it.
Ok, I have GOT TO DO THIS CLASS!!0 -
Looks like a very popular topic lol,
my tuppence worth.
I agree a lot of the estimations of MFP do seem on the high side, which is why I go off what the machines in the Gym say,
to a point that is,
Our Gym has two rowers, and if you set them up the same and did the same workout you would get a totally different calorie burn.
Some of it is the calibration of the machine, some is that it works off air resistance, a dirty internal fan wheel on one would be different to a clean one.
Needless to say there must be many variables for every machine.
On strength training,
some people (like myself do mini circuits and hardly rest) others sit around half the time watching video's as they recover ...
if they just use a general strength training, one of us must be wrong.
I would say, just be wise and skeptical, if your following everything blindly on MFP, you may just be kidding yourself,
and that's not what where here for,
not just to go thru the motions, we want results.
After thought - sorry to rant - I love going on the rower but I can do it more with arms or like absolute leg power, different techniques for the same exercise, that makes a hell of a difference too.... just saying.0 -
I go by the machines numbers and MFP numbers.. Everything no matter how precise you make think it is,is an estimate. I am just an overweight person hoping to get healthy, so, I am moving and I am eating better...it's all good!
My thoughts exactly! The truth is the truth and my body knows how many calories I actually ate & burned as opposed to my most careful estimations. So I don't really care what numbers I log all I care about is that I am exercising and changing my eating habits. The weight loss follows naturally.0 -
I tried my best to read this thread and wow! people are defensive.0
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My metabolism is utter crap so I know my estimates are likely wrong. Ive been eating back my calories because people say "it's the right thing to do" but let me tell you, I think I am just a very efficient energy storer and can do a ton of exercise that even feels intense to me, but I'm efficient at utilizing my energy so I don't burn a ton. Remind me to thank my ancestors for THOSE particular genes.... *grumpy*
It sucks, but at 40 years old I am finally coming to the conclusion that is my metabolism and my destiny is either to work WITH it or keep failing LOL So, maybe I won't eat back all my calories from now on and give that a shot. Seriously, it can't hurt!
The one thing that always bothered me about tracking exercise, is that one time long ago I read that calculators and machines gave you total burned for that period of time AND work, and didn't deduct the calories you would have burned during the time. So, it would be inflating the numbers because we already have base available calories here and our exercise doesn't DEDUCT the basal stuff from that exercise time frame, from the actual exercise burn INDEPENDENT of what you would have burned anyway. Does that make sense?? For example, if just by breathing I burned 100 calories for a time period, and ran from the same time period, the machine would say 300. Now, if we put 300 calories in on top of our normal we would actually be adding 100 calories onto our days, so could end up overeating by a lot in a week if your exercise is high in the hours for a week...
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I have found that the treadmill I use at the Y, and the numbers on MFP are pretty close. The other day, I did 35 minutes of interval walking at 3 mph with a few inclines thrown in, followed by 5 minutes of cool-down at about 2.5-2.7 mph. Treadmill said 285 calories, which seemed reasonable given my weight. MFP came up with about 250 for 35 minutes at 3 mph.
It is interesting to note that when I went on the www.healthstatus.com and for kicks entered 12 hours of sleeping and 12 hours of sitting, it came up with an overall calorie burn of about 2,600 for the day. Sleeping burns about 10 calories a minute; sitting awake burns roughly 1.7 calories a minute, according to this website.
But according to MFP, I currently have a BMR of 1,760 and a TDEE of 2,120, assuming a sedentary lifestyle and I am set at 1,200 to lose just under 2 lbs. a week. All these numbers are very confusing.0 -
Why is everyone jumping on the original poster! I get annoyed by people over exagerrating their burns as well. Even if they do claim to use a HRM. Can I just remove them? Yes but sometimes I might not want to.
I find it impossible to burn 1,000 calories doing housework. Seriously. No way. SOme people really do need some education on what they are acutally burning.
I'm confused as to why the calories burned by OTHER people, annoy you? I'm not a doctor or scientist but am pretty sure what they eat and burn won't cause you to gain/lose any weight.
And you, ma'am, are late to this discussion and need to actually read through the previous posts before posting. We covered that pages ago.
And you sir, shouldn't make an assumption.
I have read through every post but my phone at work rang before I could hit *reply*. I apologize if my not responding pages earlier bothered you.
Get over it.
Huh? My point was, the OP's reasons for bringing this up were previously covered, and they were beyond simply the impact to her efforts.
Clearly, you and I are not on the same page...and that's okay with me.0 -
You r right...u know nothing about breastfeeding. The 400cal PER DAY is right and can b even higher or lower depending on how often u feed. And obviously it's not per minute cos on average a feed can take around 45 - 60 min for little babies and if they were doing a log per minute that's 45min x 400 cal. Commonsense would tell u something not right n I would have checked b4 assuming they were overestimating. And yeh I was a breastfeeding mum but went to bottle cos baby not happy n I was a bloody wreck and hungry! I absolutely admire those women who can breastfeedYou guys can't keep going off the numbers in MFP, nor what your elliptical/spin/treadmills say. If you went on the elliptical for an hour, as I do (level 17/20), and it says you burned 1200 calories...chances are you most likely did half. In the end isn't it better to underestimate it and NOT eat back those hard earned calories. Just sayin'....
I find this constructive. A lot of people I see on here burn extreme amounts of calories doing very light activity, eat all of their calories back and wonder why they are gaining weight. I think this helps those who are having problems.
I see several members every once in a while post they burned 400 calories for 1 minute of breastfeeding. I don't know much about
breastfeeding, but if their next post is that they gained 2lbs that week I would direct them here.0 -
I personally only consume a set amount of calories everyday 1300, with the exception of 1 day a week where I consume 2000 to prevent plateaus. So even if I burn 1000 or think I did it doesn't really matter. Now if someone is eating based on calories burned then they should make sure it is as accurate as possible if they want results. HRM is the best way to go.0
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I do a workout video that on here says about 1100 cals burned.. but I do the advanced version and a lot of the time I do it like insanity as fast as I can... Another website list the advance version at over 1300 cals an hour I usually just cut that in half... if I logged everything the way the sites say id burn over 2000 cals a day...which is nice if its accurate but doubt it...0
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I use a HRM and often find my cal burn is higher then that on cardio equipment and MFP and other times its lower...just depends on my intensity0
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You guys can't keep going off the numbers in MFP, nor what your elliptical/spin/treadmills say. If you went on the elliptical for an hour, as I do (level 17/20), and it says you burned 1200 calories...chances are you most likely did half. In the end isn't it better to underestimate it and NOT eat back those hard earned calories. Just sayin'....
Edit: I am talking about people who are of a lower weight body type who cannot possibly burn a bazillion calories doing 20 squats...sorry for the confusion.
I usually post what the machine says... but don't eat back the calories either... I am of course still class 1 obese and that is why the machine gives me more calorie burn. I also recognize there are variables that are not plugged into the machine such as... individual metabolism, height, how I complete the task (holding on to the machine or walking with my hands free)... etc. For me, I do sweat a lot during the routine and if it says I am burning 1100 calories in an hour, I try not to eat back more than maybe 550 calories of it.
Other variations are found on the intake side... You go to one place and buy a grilled chicken sandwich and they put minimum mayonnaise on it. Go to another place and get the same sandwich and they mayo both sides of the bread AND meat heavily ... These sandwiches are not the same. You go to a restaurant and order a 6oz steak and it could be up to an oz different +/- .5 oz... Significant difference in calories. I always try to allow for some variation... Good point you make here.0 -
You guys can't keep going off the numbers in MFP, nor what your elliptical/spin/treadmills say. If you went on the elliptical for an hour, as I do (level 17/20), and it says you burned 1200 calories...chances are you most likely did half. In the end isn't it better to underestimate it and NOT eat back those hard earned calories. Just sayin'....
Edit: I am talking about people who are of a lower weight body type who cannot possibly burn a bazillion calories doing 20 squats...sorry for the confusion.
Let me elaborate on my frustration with these type of posts. Whenever any individual starts a post with "YOU GUYS CAN'T"...you've already set yourself up for back lash from people. It seems as though you were addressing the ENTIRE MFP community..Thast's STrike 1. Strike 2 is the fact that you've now amended your quote to say you're talking about people of a lower body weight...which is still a bit of a problem. If you see it on your friends list (And I'm assuming thats where you see their progress from), why not approach them directly when they ask advice about their plateaus or weight gains?. Question 2, why couldn't this have been rephrased better, offer your opinion and then ask what other thing...don't accuse, state, or affirm anything.
YOu're not a doctor and scientists and EVEN IN SCIENCE NOTHING IS REALLY FACT. THat was my frustration. I burn 1000 calories a day, but thats because i'm running 90 minutes hardcore outside, sweating my but off, and then I bike to work every day, and then some days i go blitz boxing. I also almost never eat back my exercise calories and if I do it will be 200 calories that I eat back at most. Thats how i've BEATEN TYPE 2 DIABETES and lost 110 pounds. I SEE THE SAME THING YOU DO, BUT UNLESS MY OPINION IS ASKED, I HAVE NEVER POSTED A POST WITH THE FIRST SENTENCE "YOU GUYS CAN'T". It makes you come off as a busy body and a nosy neighbor.
I'm sure that wasn't your intent, but thats how it comes off. And it tends to discourage some people instead of showing them a constructive solution to their problem. I don't mean to be negative, but this is a forum for support. Few of us here are experts, so a lot of it is trial and error. Just be more cognizant of how your post may come off next time
Now IM OUT FOR MY 1000 CALORIES CARDIO BURN...HAPPY SATURDAY 0 -
Oh yeah, those things are set for a 150 pound man. I'm a 95 pound woman. I choose to log my workouts just so I remember what I did, but I don't eat back the calories. If MFP's estimates were right for my body I think I'd weigh about 80 pounds by now.0
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This is exactly why I never post on these....even on these "supportive" website we have bandwaggoners and people feeling powerful because a few people support your rant. PLEASE..I still stand by what I said, I'm an EPIDEMIOLOGIST...and even I..WILL NEVER TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY CANT AND CANT DO IN REGARDS TO WEIGHT LOSS. How cute..the OP went from apologizing to now reposting other people's comments and posting her own passive agressive snarky ones...LETS BE DIRECT ABOUT IT...YOUR ORIGINAL POST "YOU GUYS CAN'T" yielded nothing but a plethora of different opinions and different ways in which people have achieved weight loss...SO CALL US THE LITTLE MFPERS THAT COULD
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Could someone recommend a HRM that takes BMR into account? Or is there an easy way to do it without having to buy a new HRM?
I'm thinking of this equation:
My BMR (according to Klatch-Macardle formula) is 1300. That's 54 calories per hour. So if my HRM says I burned 600 calories in an hour, I actually burned 546? Do I have that right?
I don't eat my calories back, by the way. That never works for me. I have consistent losses when I don't eat them back.0 -
I agree with ladimang, after you get to or close to your desired weight, then you may want to be fairly accurate with adding calories to compensate exercise (outgoing calories). Usually when you begin to lose weight the idea is to take in less calories. Adding calories for exercise seems to defeat your purpose. Why not discover how many calories you are consuming now and how many your body requires (BMR). Then start with a daily calorie intake slightly higher than needed. You will lose weight and as you do you can tighten up your system, adjusting for calories used for exercise. I'm 65, reached my desired weight, work out two times a day and am just now adjusting calories for exercising. I feel that any excuse for adding calories (eating more) usually is just that, an excuse. At this point I'm interested in Calories, Exercise, and a Balanced Meal Plan. Get a plan, work hard and have fun with it.
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I think more than a few people agreed with me. But I've been done arguing with you for a hot minute now. Its exhausting. All i was saying is that my HRM says i burned 400 calories today, and MFP says I did well over 1200. Idk. End of story. The people who I was trying to reach understood what I was saying, those in denial left, and those offended freaked out. Kewl beanz, no worries. Doctors are not the only people deemed a likely source for sound thought....my 900 hour Bikram yoga training tells me what i need to know for myself. Good night loves
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You guys can't keep going off the numbers in MFP, nor what your elliptical/spin/treadmills say. If you went on the elliptical for an hour, as I do (level 17/20), and it says you burned 1200 calories...chances are you most likely did half. In the end isn't it better to underestimate it and NOT eat back those hard earned calories. Just sayin'....
Edit: I am talking about people who are of a lower weight body type who cannot possibly burn a bazillion calories doing 20 squats...sorry for the confusion.
Let me elaborate on my frustration with these type of posts. Whenever any individual starts a post with "YOU GUYS CAN'T"...you've already set yourself up for back lash from people. It seems as though you were addressing the ENTIRE MFP community..Thast's STrike 1. Strike 2 is the fact that you've now amended your quote to say you're talking about people of a lower body weight...which is still a bit of a problem. If you see it on your friends list (And I'm assuming thats where you see their progress from), why not approach them directly when they ask advice about their plateaus or weight gains?. Question 2, why couldn't this have been rephrased better, offer your opinion and then ask what other thing...don't accuse, state, or affirm anything.
YOu're not a doctor and scientists and EVEN IN SCIENCE NOTHING IS REALLY FACT. THat was my frustration. I burn 1000 calories a day, but thats because i'm running 90 minutes hardcore outside, sweating my but off, and then I bike to work every day, and then some days i go blitz boxing. I also almost never eat back my exercise calories and if I do it will be 200 calories that I eat back at most. Thats how i've BEATEN TYPE 2 DIABETES and lost 110 pounds. I SEE THE SAME THING YOU DO, BUT UNLESS MY OPINION IS ASKED, I HAVE NEVER POSTED A POST WITH THE FIRST SENTENCE "YOU GUYS CAN'T". It makes you come off as a busy body and a nosy neighbor.
I'm sure that wasn't your intent, but thats how it comes off. And it tends to discourage some people instead of showing them a constructive solution to their problem. I don't mean to be negative, but this is a forum for support. Few of us here are experts, so a lot of it is trial and error. Just be more cognizant of how your post may come off next time
Now IM OUT FOR MY 1000 CALORIES CARDIO BURN...HAPPY SATURDAY this woman is awesome, love her replies!0
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