what foods dont have protein in?

EvanKeel

Unfortunately when people read this type of thing often enough, they begin to believe it. Of course, they shouldn't take advice from the forums. But they do. And there are a LOT of MFP members with diabetes or insulin resistance or other disorders which could make eating too much protein dangerous. The likelihood is that the percent of the MFP population for which too much protein has the potential to cause harm may be larger than the percent of the overall population, since by nature of the site MFP probably has a larger percent of people with the very medical conditions for which it can be dangerous.

Presumably people with any of those medical conditions would have a physician helping them with their nutrition. If they take blanket statements from a forum as universal truths--that I happen to believe have implied disclaimers given the context--over the advice of a doctor, then that's they're problem. If they don't know they have these medical conditions and they're going on weight loss programs without consulting a physician, then I lack a certain amount of sympathy for them; though, I suppose some of those people can't afford to see a physician, but they can apparently afford to access the internet and its various researching options if they're posting here.

I have an appreciation for what you're saying because I generally have an appreciation for precision and accuracy. I guess I'm just over trying to keep people from making stupid decisions because they're too lazy to read stickies that are designed to keep them from making stupid decisions. Again I'm assuming such a disclaimer exists at all. If it doesn't, then fine.

bcattoes

Unfortunately when people read this type of thing often enough, they begin to believe it. Of course, they shouldn't take advice from the forums. But they do. And there are a LOT of MFP members with diabetes or insulin resistance or other disorders which could make eating too much protein dangerous. The likelihood is that the percent of the MFP population for which too much protein has the potential to cause harm may be larger than the percent of the overall population, since by nature of the site MFP probably has a larger percent of people with the very medical conditions for which it can be dangerous.

Presumably people with any of those medical conditions would have a physician helping them with their nutrition. If they take blanket statements from a forum as universal truths--that I happen to believe have implied disclaimers given the context--over the advice of a doctor, then that's they're problem. If they don't know they have these medical conditions and they're going on weight loss programs without consulting a physician, then I lack a certain amount of sympathy for them; though, I suppose some of those people can't afford to see a physician, but they can apparently afford to access the internet and its various researching options if they're posting here.

I have an appreciation for what you're saying because I generally have an appreciation for precision and accuracy. I guess I'm just over trying to keep people from making stupid decisions because they're too lazy to read stickies that are designed to keep them from making stupid decisions. Again I'm assuming such a disclaimer exists at all. If it doesn't, then fine.

And I have not yet reached the point where I lack sympathy for those that don't always consult a physician when they should, even if they know they should. :ohwell:

EvanKeel

And I have not yet reached the point where I lack sympathy for those that don't always consult a physician when they should, even if they know they should. :ohwell:

Of course, having said what I've said, and reading as much Greek drama as I did in college, I realize I've probably tempted the Fates into giving me some sort of horrible medical condition that I could have prevented by seeing a doctor sooner. Paranoia and irony make for strange bed fellows.

cugglybear

A protein question is exactly the one I came on to ask. I hope it doesn't cause an argument.

I joined MFP a week ago and have been getting on ok except I am finding it hard to stay within the protein level suggested. I am over by between 3 and 6 per day. I am ok on the other things - carbs etc...

Should I worry about the protein?

IronPlayground

A protein question is exactly the one I came on to ask. I hope it doesn't cause an argument.

I joined MFP a week ago and have been getting on ok except I am finding it hard to stay within the protein level suggested. I am over by between 3 and 6 per day. I am ok on the other things - carbs etc...

Should I worry about the protein?

No.

bcattoes

A protein question is exactly the one I came on to ask. I hope it doesn't cause an argument.

I joined MFP a week ago and have been getting on ok except I am finding it hard to stay within the protein level suggested. I am over by between 3 and 6 per day. I am ok on the other things - carbs etc...

Should I worry about the protein?

No. If you have no known medical problems, then you likely don't need to worry about going over on protein. But unless you've been told by your doctor to limit protien 3 - 6 grams per day is highly unlikely to make any difference.

cugglybear

Thanks both. I won't worry!

dls06

This is an incorrect and potentially dangerous statement.

Oh please explain. I'd love to hear your reasoning.

The protein recommendations on MFP match those set by the Institute of Medicine, which sets population based recommendations based on current medical science. Eating above these recommendations may be safe for many people, but for many others it can cause medical problems, some severe. While some lifestyles may benefit from more protein, the average person doesn't "need" more protien. Before eating outside medical recommendations it would be wise to check with your doctor or a licensed dietician, rather than listening to a potentially dangerous blanket statement on a www forum.

From what I could find, the most recent report on the IOM website is from 2002. That is hardly current. The recommendation there is 0.8 g per kg of bodyweight of protein for adults, but no adverse effects are listed should one exceed the recommendation (given normal health markers).

If you are going to make claims, please back up your claims with citation-- it lends validity.

Source:

http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2002/Dietary-Reference-Intakes-for-Energy-Carbohydrate-Fiber-Fat-Fatty-Acids-Cholesterol-Protein-and-Amino-Acids.aspx

2002 is recent enough if there has since been no scientific evidence to refute the recommendation. Medical organizations don't willy nilly change recommendations every year. They change when there is suffiecient medical evidence to warrant a change.

I disagree with 2002 being recent enough! When ever ANYONE has to do research on a topic the sources must be with in the last 5 years to be considered recent anything older is seen as out of date. And unless you have kidney problems there is no reason to fear protein. MFP does set the protein levels too low and if you go over by some it really isn't a problem.

That is ridiculous. Are you really suggesting that medical organizations should change nutrition recommendations based on nothing other than a date? So the conversation would be something like

Dr. Y: "Dr. X, we need to change the protein recommendations."
Dr. X: "Why?" Is there new prevailing medical evidence suggesting they are incorrect?"
Dr. Y: "Well no, but those recommendations have been in place for 10 years."
Dr. X: "OMG, how can that be? Let's change them immediately!"

Thank God, science doesn't work that way.

If you ammend you statement to say "If you have no known medical conditions, then going over the MFP recommendation it is unlikely to be a problem.", then it would be a correct statement.

When is comes to nutrititon and health, blanket statements are rarely true.

I agree. Many people have no Idea they even have a problem.
The fact that people ask medical questions on a fitness site proves many have no idea what they are doing.

d4rkn3ss06

This is an incorrect and potentially dangerous statement.

Oh please explain. I'd love to hear your reasoning.

The protein recommendations on MFP match those set by the Institute of Medicine, which sets population based recommendations based on current medical science. Eating above these recommendations may be safe for many people, but for many others it can cause medical problems, some severe. While some lifestyles may benefit from more protein, the average person doesn't "need" more protien. Before eating outside medical recommendations it would be wise to check with your doctor or a licensed dietician, rather than listening to a potentially dangerous blanket statement on a www forum.

From what I could find, the most recent report on the IOM website is from 2002. That is hardly current. The recommendation there is 0.8 g per kg of bodyweight of protein for adults, but no adverse effects are listed should one exceed the recommendation (given normal health markers).

If you are going to make claims, please back up your claims with citation-- it lends validity.

Source:

http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2002/Dietary-Reference-Intakes-for-Energy-Carbohydrate-Fiber-Fat-Fatty-Acids-Cholesterol-Protein-and-Amino-Acids.aspx

2002 is recent enough if there has since been no scientific evidence to refute the recommendation. Medical organizations don't willy nilly change recommendations every year. They change when there is suffiecient medical evidence to warrant a change.

I disagree with 2002 being recent enough! When ever ANYONE has to do research on a topic the sources must be with in the last 5 years to be considered recent anything older is seen as out of date. And unless you have kidney problems there is no reason to fear protein. MFP does set the protein levels too low and if you go over by some it really isn't a problem.

That is ridiculous. Are you really suggesting that medical organizations should change nutrition recommendations based on nothing other than a date? So the conversation would be something like

Dr. Y: "Dr. X, we need to change the protein recommendations."
Dr. X: "Why?" Is there new prevailing medical evidence suggesting they are incorrect?"
Dr. Y: "Well no, but those recommendations have been in place for 10 years."
Dr. X: "OMG, how can that be? Let's change them immediately!"

Thank God, science doesn't work that way.

If you ammend you statement to say "If you have no known medical conditions, then going over the MFP recommendation it is unlikely to be a problem.", then it would be a correct statement.

When is comes to nutrition and health, blanket statements are rarely true.

First you have to learn to read! -___- I said it wasn't considered recent!! I never said it needed to be changed to to changed it but when you are doing research something that is more than 5 years old is no longer considered recent!!!! I never said science was just changed to be changed! Your being condescending with out understanding what was said! Which is funny!!! and for someone who dislikes blanket statements you used one with your first post on this thread! but i guess when they are convenient it is ok to use them!? haha

janemem

MFP has my daily protein goal at 45g which I very rarely ever get anywhere near.
I am 5'4" and 114lb.
Is this protein goal too low and if so what should it be. As I said, I never even reach anywhere near 45g so I haven't a clue what to aim for now. Help!

LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo

i weighed 132 pound how many grams of protiten am i alloud to eat?

at least from 120-132g, you need to eat at least 1g/lb of body weight whether you're trying to lose weight or maintenance & slightly higher if your goal is to build muscle.

bathsheba_c

MFP has the protein target set at 15% of calories, which is the level recommended by the US government. A "high-protein" diet is anything above 30% of calories according to WebMD. For people who do not have a medical condition requiring limited protein intake, no danger has been associated with going on a diet where 30-45% of calories come from protein (again, according to WebMD).

So don't sweat going over on protein just because the numbers turn red. And don't sweat going even double over your protein target. :flowerforyou:

bcattoes

i weighed 132 pound how many grams of protiten am i alloud to eat?

at least from 120-132g, you need to eat at least 1g/lb of body weight whether you're trying to lose weight or maintenance & slightly higher if your goal is to build muscle.

Why does anyone "need" to eat this much protein?

Most of the advice from bodybuilders on MFP that I've seen say either .8 - 1 gram of protein per lb of lean body mass or 1 g per kg of total body weight. And even that is probably not going to be beneficial unless you are doing fairly intense lifting.

What is the advantage of going to 1 gram per pound of total body weight, and do you have any science to back it up?