BMR and TDEE How do you figure it out?

No matter what I set my goals at, how many pounds I want to lose in a week, how much I exercise, etc. MFP only gives me 1200 calories a day, yet I'm not really losing anything. I stay within my amounts and I'm not moving the scale anywhere. I'm wondering if I'm eating the wrong amount of calories in the day. How are you supposed to figure out your TDEE/BMR rates? Can someone please help me out....I'm getting mad!~
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  • Jodi827
    Jodi827 Posts: 40
    I have yet to figure it out either ~ bump for later.
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/bmr

    Fill it out, eat calorie figure given to you at the bottom of the results page most fitting to your activity level, don't eat exercise calories back as they're accounted for in the number.
  • curvykim78
    curvykim78 Posts: 799 Member
    I've heard BMR is the minimum number of calories to survive on, like in a coma status.
  • Cyndieann
    Cyndieann Posts: 152 Member
    Bump
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    I've heard BMR is the minimum number of calories to survive on, like in a coma status.
    Not quite as your body can take energy from itself for a long time and you'll 'survive'. You are however, more likely to feel like crap if you eat too little.
  • curvykim78
    curvykim78 Posts: 799 Member

    Holy heck that was a lot of reading....thanks!~
  • RumOne
    RumOne Posts: 266 Member

    Holy heck that was a lot of reading....thanks!~

    No problem. It is a lot to read but has been very helpful.

    basal metabolic rate an expression of the rate at which oxygen is used by body cells, or the calculated equivalent heat production by the body, in a fasting subject at complete rest. Abbreviated BMR.
  • curvykim78
    curvykim78 Posts: 799 Member
    www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/bmr

    Fill it out, eat calorie figure given to you at the bottom of the results page most fitting to your activity level, don't eat exercise calories back as they're accounted for in the number.

    Wow....2111 is what it has me eating at for moderately active. MFP gives me 1200! That's a huge difference!
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/bmr

    Fill it out, eat calorie figure given to you at the bottom of the results page most fitting to your activity level, don't eat exercise calories back as they're accounted for in the number.

    Wow....2111 is what it has me eating at for moderately active. MFP gives me 1200! That's a huge difference!
    Their theory is to eat at the level you would maintain at at your goal weight, which makes sense if you think about it. They also say you can dock an extra 2-300 off a day if you want to speed up your results.
  • curvykim78
    curvykim78 Posts: 799 Member
    www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/bmr

    Fill it out, eat calorie figure given to you at the bottom of the results page most fitting to your activity level, don't eat exercise calories back as they're accounted for in the number.

    Wow....2111 is what it has me eating at for moderately active. MFP gives me 1200! That's a huge difference!
    Their theory is to eat at the level you would maintain at at your goal weight, which makes sense if you think about it. They also say you can dock an extra 2-300 off a day if you want to speed up your results.

    I don't think I've ever eaten close to that on MFP...I wonder if this is why I am at a plateau...That just sounds like a lot of calories to me.
  • toysbigkid
    toysbigkid Posts: 545 Member
    bumping
  • HMVOL7409
    HMVOL7409 Posts: 1,588 Member
    www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/bmr

    Fill it out, eat calorie figure given to you at the bottom of the results page most fitting to your activity level, don't eat exercise calories back as they're accounted for in the number.

    Wow....2111 is what it has me eating at for moderately active. MFP gives me 1200! That's a huge difference!
    Their theory is to eat at the level you would maintain at at your goal weight, which makes sense if you think about it. They also say you can dock an extra 2-300 off a day if you want to speed up your results.

    I don't think I've ever eaten close to that on MFP...I wonder if this is why I am at a plateau...That just sounds like a lot of calories to me.

    In reality it's not. I eat 2000 calories daily now. If you compare it to before you joined MFP I bet it won't look so high then. I use to eat at 1200 too so I understand the psychological aspect of it and seeing that huge gap is scary. However, I am much happier, healthier and more fit at 2000.
  • CoderGal
    CoderGal Posts: 6,800 Member
    If you want the math-e version, I just wrote one :P Let me know if you have any questions. I also mentioned links to several calculators throughout it defining which equations each one uses.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/637094-cinderella-s-weight-loss-knowledge
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/bmr

    Fill it out, eat calorie figure given to you at the bottom of the results page most fitting to your activity level, don't eat exercise calories back as they're accounted for in the number.

    Wow....2111 is what it has me eating at for moderately active. MFP gives me 1200! That's a huge difference!
    Their theory is to eat at the level you would maintain at at your goal weight, which makes sense if you think about it. They also say you can dock an extra 2-300 off a day if you want to speed up your results.

    I don't think I've ever eaten close to that on MFP...I wonder if this is why I am at a plateau...That just sounds like a lot of calories to me.

    In reality it's not. I eat 2000 calories daily now. If you compare it to before you joined MFP I bet it won't look so high then. I use to eat at 1200 too so I understand the psychological aspect of it and seeing that huge gap is scary. However, I am much happier, healthier and more fit at 2000.
    This is better testimony than I could ever provide.
  • pten0pus
    pten0pus Posts: 25
    Have you checked out the Eat More to Weigh Less group here on MFP? This is also a good calculator. http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
  • curvykim78
    curvykim78 Posts: 799 Member
    If you want the math-e version, I just wrote one :P Let me know if you have any questions. I also mentioned links to several calculators throughout it defining which equations each one uses.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/637094-cinderella-s-weight-loss-knowledge

    You lost me honey....too many numbers and calculations. I'm dumb at weight loss, I need plain and simple. :)
  • CoderGal
    CoderGal Posts: 6,800 Member
    If you want the math-e version, I just wrote one :P Let me know if you have any questions. I also mentioned links to several calculators throughout it defining which equations each one uses.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/637094-cinderella-s-weight-loss-knowledge

    You lost me honey....too many numbers and calculations. I'm dumb at weight loss, I need plain and simple. :)
    Take a small cut of your tdee and eat at that, do not go near your bmr :p thats ny advice. Fat2fits bmr calculator gives a cut below your tdee at the bottom of their page. I suggest using intervals less then 30
  • curvykim78
    curvykim78 Posts: 799 Member
    If you want the math-e version, I just wrote one :P Let me know if you have any questions. I also mentioned links to several calculators throughout it defining which equations each one uses.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/637094-cinderella-s-weight-loss-knowledge

    You lost me honey....too many numbers and calculations. I'm dumb at weight loss, I need plain and simple. :)
    Take a small cut of your tdee and eat at that, do not go near your bmr :p thats ny advice. Fat2fits bmr calculator gives a cut below your tdee at the bottom of their page. I suggest using intervals less then 30

    What do you mean when you say 'using intervals less than 30?'
  • CoderGal
    CoderGal Posts: 6,800 Member
    When it asks for your goal weight...if someone is say 300 lbs and they want to be 100...it knocks off a lot of calories. Some people lose at tdee...no need to jump down below bmr. Just take a sensible cut and go from there. If you type tdee calculator fitness frogs comes up. Thats the number most people eat below. I personally ate at this number without a cut to lose
  • curvykim78
    curvykim78 Posts: 799 Member
    When it asks for your goal weight...if someone is say 300 lbs and they want to be 100...it knocks off a lot of calories. Some people lose at tdee...no need to jump down below bmr. Just take a sensible cut and go from there. If you type tdee calculator fitness frogs comes up. Thats the number most people eat below. I personally ate at this number without a cut to lose

    According to the frog website, it tells me 2290.

    According to the fat 2 fit radio, it tells me 2111.

    Ugh.. .why can't all of the results be the same...the same info is put in the computer! This is why I get frustrated!
  • CoderGal
    CoderGal Posts: 6,800 Member
    When it asks for your goal weight...if someone is say 300 lbs and they want to be 100...it knocks off a lot of calories. Some people lose at tdee...no need to jump down below bmr. Just take a sensible cut and go from there. If you type tdee calculator fitness frogs comes up. Thats the number most people eat below. I personally ate at this number without a cut to lose

    According to the frog website, it tells me 2290.

    According to the fat 2 fit radio, it tells me 2111.

    Ugh.. .why can't all of the results be the same...the same info is put in the computer! This is why I get frustrated!

    Because they are all estimated using different equations and different variables with different sources of error. That's why I put the cinderella thread up. Plus, 2290 and 2111 are not all that different. That's a difference of 179. The fact that nutritional daily values on boxes are averages could make a difference as big as that. What if that cookie you took out of that box had an extra chocolate chip on it, that's more calories? Just because you weighed food and the nutritional value says it's a certain thing, doesn't mean you're actually eating that. And then it depends on how accurately to the gram you are measuring your food...And how much muscle you have, and how much you are actually moving around. For example, take the sedentary value. Some sedentary people move limbs more then others. Are you sleeping and sitting all day? Do you stand up to make dinner? I wouldn't worry about it. Mine were under estimated no matter what equation I used, so I lost at TDEE.

    If you want to get extra accurate with your complete resting rate, you can get your RMR read by a doctor (I define how they do it in that thread).

    Anyway, don't worry about it, it tends to work for the masses, you probably won't be any different, despite the fact many people who start have insecurities about it.
  • herownkindofwonderfull
    herownkindofwonderfull Posts: 307 Member
    No matter what I set my goals at, how many pounds I want to lose in a week, how much I exercise, etc. MFP only gives me 1200 calories a day, yet I'm not really losing anything. I stay within my amounts and I'm not moving the scale anywhere. I'm wondering if I'm eating the wrong amount of calories in the day. How are you supposed to figure out your TDEE/BMR rates? Can someone please help me out....I'm getting mad!~

    You can use online calculators to find out your personal BMR and TDEE.

    Do not follow MFP'S calories... they are way off and not set up to your individual needs for height and weight, etc. Everyone is different..

    Once you get these numbers, set up your goals accordingly; Set your calorie goal ABOVE your BMR. You need AT LEAST your BMR in calories to SURVIVE and STAY HEALTHY! Eat below your TDEE to lose weight. Staying at your TDEE should help you maintain your current weight.

    Hope this helps!!!
  • curvykim78
    curvykim78 Posts: 799 Member
    www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/bmr

    Fill it out, eat calorie figure given to you at the bottom of the results page most fitting to your activity level, don't eat exercise calories back as they're accounted for in the number.

    Wow....2111 is what it has me eating at for moderately active. MFP gives me 1200! That's a huge difference!
    Their theory is to eat at the level you would maintain at at your goal weight, which makes sense if you think about it. They also say you can dock an extra 2-300 off a day if you want to speed up your results.

    I don't think I've ever eaten close to that on MFP...I wonder if this is why I am at a plateau...That just sounds like a lot of calories to me.

    In reality it's not. I eat 2000 calories daily now. If you compare it to before you joined MFP I bet it won't look so high then. I use to eat at 1200 too so I understand the psychological aspect of it and seeing that huge gap is scary. However, I am much happier, healthier and more fit at 2000.

    You're probably right, i ate a lot of junk before and never thought twice about it. My calories were probably way over 2000 on average and i wasn't really exercising consistently then either.
  • curvykim78
    curvykim78 Posts: 799 Member
    No matter what I set my goals at, how many pounds I want to lose in a week, how much I exercise, etc. MFP only gives me 1200 calories a day, yet I'm not really losing anything. I stay within my amounts and I'm not moving the scale anywhere. I'm wondering if I'm eating the wrong amount of calories in the day. How are you supposed to figure out your TDEE/BMR rates? Can someone please help me out....I'm getting mad!~

    You can use online calculators to find out your personal BMR and TDEE.

    Do not follow MFP'S calories... they are way off and not set up to your individual needs for height and weight, etc. Everyone is different..

    Once you get these numbers, set up your goals accordingly; Set your calorie goal ABOVE your BMR. You need AT LEAST your BMR in calories to SURVIVE and STAY HEALTHY! Eat below your TDEE to lose weight. Staying at your TDEE should help you maintain your current weight.

    Hope this helps!!!

    I figured them out, I'll adjust it later. Thanks for the help.
  • curvykim78
    curvykim78 Posts: 799 Member
    When it asks for your goal weight...if someone is say 300 lbs and they want to be 100...it knocks off a lot of calories. Some people lose at tdee...no need to jump down below bmr. Just take a sensible cut and go from there. If you type tdee calculator fitness frogs comes up. Thats the number most people eat below. I personally ate at this number without a cut to lose

    According to the frog website, it tells me 2290.

    According to the fat 2 fit radio, it tells me 2111.

    Ugh.. .why can't all of the results be the same...the same info is put in the computer! This is why I get frustrated!

    Because they are all estimated using different equations and different variables with different sources of error. That's why I put the cinderella thread up. Plus, 2290 and 2111 are not all that different. That's a difference of 179. The fact that nutritional daily values on boxes are averages could make a difference as big as that. What if that cookie you took out of that box had an extra chocolate chip on it, that's more calories? Just because you weighed food and the nutritional value says it's a certain thing, doesn't mean you're actually eating that. And then it depends on how accurately to the gram you are measuring your food...And how much muscle you have, and how much you are actually moving around. For example, take the sedentary value. Some sedentary people move limbs more then others. Are you sleeping and sitting all day? Do you stand up to make dinner? I wouldn't worry about it. Mine were under estimated no matter what equation I used, so I lost at TDEE.

    If you want to get extra accurate with your complete resting rate, you can get your RMR read by a doctor (I define how they do it in that thread).

    Anyway, don't worry about it, it tends to work for the masses, you probably won't be any different, despite the fact many people who start have insecurities about it.

    I just had my 'ah ha' moment. lol Thanks for your help. I got it, now hopefully I did it right and it works. :)
  • Sheila_Ann
    Sheila_Ann Posts: 365 Member
    Wow! What great information on this post! I've always had issues with trying to figure out what I should eat at as well. MFP has me at 1200.

    So from what I gather, if my BMR is 1574 (sedentary, thru fat2fit) and my TDEE is 1593 I should be eating between 1574 and 1593? Plus eat back my workout calories? The TDEE is what MFP has me.

    Thanks!
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    Wow! What great information on this post! I've always had issues with trying to figure out what I should eat at as well. MFP has me at 1200.

    So from what I gather, if my BMR is 1574 (sedentary, thru fat2fit) and my TDEE is 1593 I should be eating between 1574 and 1593? Plus eat back my workout calories? The TDEE is what MFP has me.

    Thanks!
    Your TDEE has to be higher than that if your BMR is 1574 - the smallest common multiplier is 1.2, so at least 1888.
  • tishajo
    tishajo Posts: 142 Member
    I'm on a plateau as well. I've been trying to stay close to the 1200 that MFP has me on. My BMR is 1564. No wonder I'm not loosing. Thanks for posting:smile:
  • tishajo
    tishajo Posts: 142 Member
    I'm on a plateau as well. I've been trying to stay close to the 1200 that MFP has me on. My BMR is 1564. No wonder I'm not loosing. Thanks for posting:smile:

    Make that *losing*. :tongue: