Thermogenic Supplements

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  • meowstrom
    meowstrom Posts: 37
    Aw I was taking this last year for one day only thinking it was a good idea to incorporate into my workout routine along with all my other supplements, unfortunately the rep who sold it to me didn't explain it very well and I ended up having an adverse reaction in the form of a severe and very public anxiety attack from all the caffeine.

    Just make sure that you get all the info you can off the store selling it D:

    Other than that they probably work wonders for people that can take them :)
  • geeniusatwurk
    geeniusatwurk Posts: 68 Member
    Almost every legal thermogenic has between 150 and 200 mg caffeine in each dose, along with a "proprietary blend" that doesn't do jack. I like to look at all the freebies I get when I go to GNC, and almost every sample follows that rule.

    Aside from caffeine, the things that work are illegal due to the danger. For example, the lethal dose of DNP is 1 pill away from its effective dose. Accidentally take 1 too many? Good job, you're dead.

    Other legal thermogenics might have ephedra extract in it, which is not the same thing as ephedrine sulfate (like what you get in Bronkaid) and is the actual banned substance. The thing with thermogenics is true for all legal supplements: If it sounds too good to be true, it is. Hell the peer reviewed research of ECA stacks, which contain ephedrine 25 mg, caffeine 200 mg, and aspirin 81 mg x 3 per day, is only a 3-5% boost over your BMR.

    You know why every thermogenic says "when combined with diet and exercise" or something along those lines? Because when you make progress you won't be able to tell what % of that progress came from diet and exercise versus anything else, and thus you'll be given a false sense that the thermogenic is working.
  • particleastro
    particleastro Posts: 68 Member
    ^^^^Called it. You cant get ephedrine here anymore, eveyrthing else is just caffeine. Having said that, I do like the buzz you get from Tight Extreme.
  • CinJay
    CinJay Posts: 157 Member
    I've said it before, I'll say it again... don't trust quick fixes! Just do it the right way (yeah it's slow but it lasts if you do it right) and you won't be harming your body. I used thermogenic supplements years ago and started getting heart palpitations. Now barely a day goes by without my heart fluttering. If it doesn't belong in your body, don't put it there.
  • fltwins918
    fltwins918 Posts: 12 Member
    I take AdvoCare's Catalyst (Amino acid supplement) aka "my butt be gone gut be gone" and I have noticed I burn more calories in a workout than without. I have also taken the ThermoPlus and liked it. www.advocare.com/100811385

    Thermoplus info page: https://www.advocare.com/Microsite/Images/Store/Labels/T4101.pdf

    Catalyst info page: https://www.advocare.com/Microsite/Images/Store/Labels/T2010.pdf

    I take the Spark for energy (yes it does have caffeine and the b vitamins, but I do not drink coffee or soda anymore, which is a big plus for me).
  • Rilke
    Rilke Posts: 1,201 Member
    Besides the fact that they are basically caffeine pills and a big waste of money, these things mess with your heart. I don't understand why so many people are willing to risk their cardiovascular health to lose some weight.
  • geeniusatwurk
    geeniusatwurk Posts: 68 Member
    ^^^^Called it. You cant get ephedrine here anymore, eveyrthing else is just caffeine. Having said that, I do like the buzz you get from Tight Extreme.

    Actually you can still get it from most pharmacies, just gotta show an ID and buy Bronkaid, which has 25 mg ephedrine and 400 mg guaifenesin in it. I do ECA stacks in between other cycles and have no problem driving to the CVS down the street and getting a box of Bronkaid.
  • run2jeepn
    run2jeepn Posts: 183 Member
    Thermogenic's only help burn 300 extra Calories a day. Even the good old ECA Stack. Which you can still buy Eph. The Ban was Lifted on it a while back. There are many Supplement websites that sell Eph. Based Thermogenic's.

    If you can't figure a way to cut 300 extra Calories out of your Diet to lose weight. You shouldn't be taking Thermogenics anyway.
  • elizabeth1222
    elizabeth1222 Posts: 51
    bump for later:blushing:
  • triinityz
    triinityz Posts: 146 Member
    Hmmm... hope I don't get in trouble, but here's a link to an aritcle by Dr. Weil about these

    http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA29956/thermogenic-supplements-for-weight-loss.html
  • run2jeepn
    run2jeepn Posts: 183 Member
    ^^^^Called it. You cant get ephedrine here anymore, eveyrthing else is just caffeine. Having said that, I do like the buzz you get from Tight Extreme.

    http://www.healthy-living-for-moms.com/ephedra-ban-lifted.html

    http://heartdisease.about.com/od/palpitationsarrhythmias/a/ephedra.htm

    Stores
    http://www.dietpills-with-ephedra.com/

    http://www.tfsupplements.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list&c=195
  • relly1008
    relly1008 Posts: 175 Member
    I just start using C4 extreme, that's what the guy in the store recommend when i went asking for something that gave energy, and help me with my weight loss, I am not really lifting, just doing P90X, but he say that this going to pump me so i'm going to do more excercises, and that going to make me burn more calories, then loss more weight
  • Rilke
    Rilke Posts: 1,201 Member
    I just start using C4 extreme, that's what the guy in the store recommend when i went asking for something that gave energy, and help me with my weight loss, I am not really lifting, just doing P90X, but he say that this going to pump me so i'm going to do more excercises, and that going to make me burn more calories, then loss more weight

    I am sure he very much appreciated your business.
  • VMarkV
    VMarkV Posts: 522 Member
    Blends are garbage...the proportion of good ingredients is never correct and plus all the side effects from the pixie dust isn't worth it

    Go with straight up ingredients that can actually be measured
    200mg caffeine + 25 mg epheDRINE hcl (still available, not to be confused with epheDRA) (also has guafenisen, no side effects but encourages staying hydrated drinking plenty water)

    No point in using unless approaching single digit BF%, and no point taking continuously
    Not for the stimulant sensitive or those with heart conditions
  • StarvingDiva
    StarvingDiva Posts: 1,107 Member
    I'm super sensitive to anything in those things. Over the years I have taken different ones that people suggested, once I took those Stackers, little yellow pills, I think they were stackers, they made me so jittery I had to stop after just two days. Almost all of the pills I've tried, have given me this same effect.
  • FlyEaglesGuy
    FlyEaglesGuy Posts: 436 Member
    General rule of thumb; if it is not illegal/not legally sold as a fat loss supplement, guess what? It's probably *kitten*.

    Any you can find in a store typically have caffeine which is a natural appetite suppresent, or other things like Yohimbine and what not. Some of these have been seen to have thermogenic effects, such as Yohimbine; which (bonus) makes you horny as fuark too. However, it is usually not given in the doses high enough to be effective and any thermogenic effects are nullified in the presence of insulin in the system. Yohimbine -may- work on a keto diet, but otherwise is a waste of money.

    Agreed! Same effect here. The Mrs. Called me jack rabbit! Lol
  • emhargs
    emhargs Posts: 63
    i don't really get what the big deal is, but excuse my ignorance, presumably i lack a lot of education with all of this.... i only take half the recommended dose, its less than what would be in a redbull or other energy drink.... and i get a boost of energy without having to be bloated by drinking a soda etc. i am training alot harder, and even doing some cardio (which i hate)...

    i am nearly at my goal, like moments away, so its not exactly a 'quick fix' i am going for... i train 5 days a week doing weights, i am working on my diet, i feel like i AM putting the hard work in, this is just a little bonus something-or-other i am trying for 30 days to see if it helps me train harder, and so far, it is. i am not expecting it to do anything other than give me a boost of energy due to the caffeine prior to training - am i missing something? what do other people think this stuff does? i feel i'm being pretty realistic in my expectations.
  • rasaseyedian
    rasaseyedian Posts: 3 Member
    You can take those pills and burn your fats quickly, then the remaining is your loose skin! specially around your belly. One of my friend burned 30lb in 2 months, but still he is not sexy for his GF and when we all go to a pool, everybody asks him to cover his body with piece of cloth!!!
    so it's your choice, Chemical Way or Health Way?
    Plus, you can't drink any soda, coffee, or tea during the day while you take these pills. If your read the warning on the bottle, you can see this notice.

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