FORGET counting calories!

sullykat

Lift weights. That is how you will tone up. Cardio will keep you slim, lifting will get you the muscle tone you desire.

As for counting… do it. And make sure you eat a lot of protein while you're at it.

dakotababy

If you think logging calories is stressful...you obviously had a very sheltered life.

eric_sg61

Strong thread start date

xmichaelyx

There's nothing in your food diary (at least, on the days I looked at) but all the foods you mention are high in carbs.

It's possible that raising your fat and protein intake would stop your cravings. I know that during the week I rarely have cravings, because I keep carbs low.

Of course, I could be way off base -- it's impossible to give much advice at all without knowing what you eat.

Edit: Year-old thread. Awesome. Thanks for bumping this, nemolani.

Rocbola

I think that as long as you are eating the right foods, you don't need to count calories. Humans, like all animals, wont overeat, or undereat, in their natural environments. As long as you are eating the whole natural foods that humans have been eating for thousands of years, your body will count calories naturally. The only reason people need to consciously count is when they eat artificially concentrated foods not found in our natural environment.

So we won't overeat if we have to go out and forage berries and kill our own meat? Not very useful in our urban lifestyles (aka: reality)

Oh, i got this neat place near me called a "grocery store". There are also co-ops, farmers markets, fruit stands, and even food delivery services. I prefer to live in reality, but if you think you need to forage for food, you go right ahead.

Cortelli

Ok - I recognize this is a zombie thread -- but either we revive zombies or we castigate posters for not using the (highly efficient ) search function.

I think that as long as you are eating the right foods, you don't need to count calories. Humans, like all animals, wont overeat, or undereat, in their natural environments. As long as you are eating the whole natural foods that humans have been eating for thousands of years, your body will count calories naturally. The only reason people need to consciously count is when they eat artificially concentrated foods not found in our natural environment.

I appreciate that you believe strongly in a specific approach to eating and diet, and that it has by all appearences done wonders for you.

But I don't see how you can be thinking crisply and be observant, and look at the world we all share -- and not just the western diet for humans of the last couple of hundred years -- and possibly believe that "Humans, like all animals, wont overeat, or undereat, in their natural environments." Or that "The only reason people need to consciously count is when they eat artificially concentrated foods not found in our natural environment." C'mon man, this sort of hyperbole just weakens any credibility you might try to bring to a discussion.

ETA: glaring spelling error. There may be more.

Francl27

I think that as long as you are eating the right foods, you don't need to count calories. Humans, like all animals, wont overeat, or undereat, in their natural environments. As long as you are eating the whole natural foods that humans have been eating for thousands of years, your body will count calories naturally. The only reason people need to consciously count is when they eat artificially concentrated foods not found in our natural environment.

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SezxyStef

I think that as long as you are eating the right foods, you don't need to count calories. Humans, like all animals, wont overeat, or undereat, in their natural environments. As long as you are eating the whole natural foods that humans have been eating for thousands of years, your body will count calories naturally. The only reason people need to consciously count is when they eat artificially concentrated foods not found in our natural environment.

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Rocbola

I think that as long as you are eating the right foods, you don't need to count calories. Humans, like all animals, wont overeat, or undereat, in their natural environments. As long as you are eating the whole natural foods that humans have been eating for thousands of years, your body will count calories naturally. The only reason people need to consciously count is when they eat artificially concentrated foods not found in our natural environment.

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Wow, what an incredibly well thought out, well articulated point. How can i go on believing that fruits and vegetables are good now?

LiftAllThePizzas

I think that as long as you are eating the right foods, you don't need to count calories. Humans, like all animals, wont overeat, or undereat, in their natural environments. As long as you are eating the whole natural foods that humans have been eating for thousands of years, your body will count calories naturally. The only reason people need to consciously count is when they eat artificially concentrated foods not found in our natural environment.

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Wow, what an incredibly well thought out, well articulated point. How can i go on believing that fruits and vegetables are good now?

At least as well thought out as the assertion that humans live in their natural environment.

LolBroScience

I think that as long as you are eating the right foods, you don't need to count calories. Humans, like all animals, wont overeat, or undereat, in their natural environments. As long as you are eating the whole natural foods that humans have been eating for thousands of years, your body will count calories naturally. The only reason people need to consciously count is when they eat artificially concentrated foods not found in our natural environment.

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Wow, what an incredibly well thought out, well articulated point. How can i go on believing that fruits and vegetables are good now?

They are good.It's just stupid when it comprises 80+% of your diet.

Rocbola

I think that as long as you are eating the right foods, you don't need to count calories. Humans, like all animals, wont overeat, or undereat, in their natural environments. As long as you are eating the whole natural foods that humans have been eating for thousands of years, your body will count calories naturally. The only reason people need to consciously count is when they eat artificially concentrated foods not found in our natural environment.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :noway: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Wow, what an incredibly well thought out, well articulated point. How can i go on believing that fruits and vegetables are good now?

At least as well thought out as the assertion that humans live in their natural environment.

WTF are you talking about?

Rocbola

I think that as long as you are eating the right foods, you don't need to count calories. Humans, like all animals, wont overeat, or undereat, in their natural environments. As long as you are eating the whole natural foods that humans have been eating for thousands of years, your body will count calories naturally. The only reason people need to consciously count is when they eat artificially concentrated foods not found in our natural environment.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :noway: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Wow, what an incredibly well thought out, well articulated point. How can i go on believing that fruits and vegetables are good now?

They are good.It's just stupid when it comprises 80+% of your diet.

Says the person who has never tried it.

tennisdude2004

I think that as long as you are eating the right foods, you don't need to count calories. Humans, like all animals, wont overeat, or undereat, in their natural environments. As long as you are eating the whole natural foods that humans have been eating for thousands of years, your body will count calories naturally. The only reason people need to consciously count is when they eat artificially concentrated foods not found in our natural environment.

I think the answer is to eat lots of meat.

LolBroScience

Says the person who has never tried it.

I like when my test levels aren't sub par.... I also enjoy not needing to rely on viagra at 26.....I also enjoy building muscle...

LiftAllThePizzas

I think that as long as you are eating the right foods, you don't need to count calories. Humans, like all animals, wont overeat, or undereat, in their natural environments. As long as you are eating the whole natural foods that humans have been eating for thousands of years, your body will count calories naturally. The only reason people need to consciously count is when they eat artificially concentrated foods not found in our natural environment.

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Wow, what an incredibly well thought out, well articulated point. How can i go on believing that fruits and vegetables are good now?

At least as well thought out as the assertion that humans live in their natural environment.

WTF are you talking about?

Well at least now you know how the rest of us feel.

Rocbola

Says the person who has never tried it.

I like when my test levels aren't sub par.... I also enjoy not needing to rely on viagra at 26.....I also enjoy building muscle...

Hahaha!!!! ED is what happens to meat eaters! It stems from vascular disease. Vegan men don't have problems down there, meat eaters and dairy eaters do.