What really makes us fat (NYTimes.com)

kalynn06

Low-carb diets increase the stress hormone cortisol, CRP, which is an inflammation marker linked to heart disease and diabetes, and overall mortality.

That is funny, then how do patients on low carb diets have their numbers decrease so much that they do not have to take any medicine?????

The blood work numbers they use to determine most common medications are not generally the stress markers that increase. Losing weight tends to lower blood pressure, cholesterol, etc. no matter how you lose it. Inflammation causes damage that predisposes you to disease but the results of this inflammation are usually seen farther down the road rather than immediately when blood markers go up. There need to be longer term studies to follow people on these diets and determine how long the inflammation lasts and if it has long term consequences.

RayRay1500

Low-carb diets increase the stress hormone cortisol, CRP, which is an inflammation marker linked to heart disease and diabetes, and overall mortality.

That is funny, then how do patients on low carb diets have their numbers decrease so much that they do not have to take any medicine?????

The blood work numbers they use to determine most common medications are not generally the stress markers that increase. Losing weight tends to lower blood pressure, cholesterol, etc. no matter how you lose it. Inflammation causes damage that predisposes you to disease but the results of this inflammation are usually seen farther down the road rather than immediately when blood markers go up. There need to be longer term studies to follow people on these diets and determine how long the inflammation lasts and if it has long term consequences.

@, I just have not heard of this. Can you document the medical literature that backs this up?

BoydLabBuck

http://robbwolf.com/2012/07/06/maintaining-weight-loss-jama-study/

BrianSharpe

http://robbwolf.com/2012/07/06/maintaining-weight-loss-jama-study/

"Until then we still have strong anecdotal data that the paleo diet is the best treatment for obesity."

The plural of anecdote is not data.

LesterBlackstone

http://robbwolf.com/2012/07/06/maintaining-weight-loss-jama-study/

LULZ @ Wolf trying to shoehorn this BS into his Paleo agenda.

Much better analysis here:

http://anthonycolpo.com/?p=3680

and here

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2012/06/new-study-is-calorie-calorie.html


and here

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/modest-proposal-for-peer-review.html

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/friday-jama-lama-ding-dong.html

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/more-on-ebbeling-etal-jama-study.html

BoydLabBuck

http://robbwolf.com/2012/07/06/maintaining-weight-loss-jama-study/

LULZ @ Wolf trying to shoehorn this BS into his Paleo agenda.

Much better analysis here:

http://anthonycolpo.com/?p=3680

and here

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2012/06/new-study-is-calorie-calorie.html


and here

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/modest-proposal-for-peer-review.html

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/friday-jama-lama-ding-dong.html

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/more-on-ebbeling-etal-jama-study.html

I don't post that for your pleasure, I post it for the hundreds of people on this site that continue to struggle with weight loss because you post your tired "eat less, workout more" over and over again.

There sure seems to be a hell of a lot of "anecdotes" that primal / paleo works for many people.

Acg67

http://robbwolf.com/2012/07/06/maintaining-weight-loss-jama-study/

LULZ @ Wolf trying to shoehorn this BS into his Paleo agenda.

Much better analysis here:

http://anthonycolpo.com/?p=3680

and here

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2012/06/new-study-is-calorie-calorie.html


and here

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/modest-proposal-for-peer-review.html

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/friday-jama-lama-ding-dong.html

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/more-on-ebbeling-etal-jama-study.html

I don't post that for your pleasure, I post it for the hundreds of people on this site that continue to struggle with weight loss because you post your tired "eat less, workout more" over and over again.

There sure seems to be a hell of a lot of "anecdotes" that primal / paleo works for many people.

Paleo/primal/low carb works the same way every other diet works, a caloric deficit.

LesterBlackstone

http://robbwolf.com/2012/07/06/maintaining-weight-loss-jama-study/

LULZ @ Wolf trying to shoehorn this BS into his Paleo agenda.

Much better analysis here:

http://anthonycolpo.com/?p=3680

and here

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2012/06/new-study-is-calorie-calorie.html


and here

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/modest-proposal-for-peer-review.html

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/friday-jama-lama-ding-dong.html

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/more-on-ebbeling-etal-jama-study.html

I don't post that for your pleasure, I post it for the hundreds of people on this site that continue to struggle with weight loss because you post your tired "eat less, workout more" over and over again.

“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson

There sure seems to be a hell of a lot of "anecdotes" that primal / paleo works for many people.

As has already been pointed out: the plural of anecdote is not data. Paleo works the same way every other diet works - by creating a caloric deficit.

If you find that you can adhere to it, fine. But just as many find the nonsensical exclusion of perfectly healthy food to be counterproductive.

heatgal976

LMAO! :laugh:

**AS I MUNCH ON MY BOWL OF WHITE RICE** :drinker:

Septlondon

well reading the above comments has been an interesting experience. I wonder why some people are getting so angry and 'superior' about it all. All I know is if I eat sugar and grains I am ill and in a lot of pain, if I don't eat them I am well. I get my carbohydrates from vegetables and fruit. The whole ''if you were just more disciplined and ate less you would be thin thing makes me smile, been there done that, still felt like cr@p. Sugar and grains are bad for me (not talking about anybody else). I feel no need to try and convert anybody, if what you choose to eat really works for you that is great and just fantastic. Lets face it we are a very versitile species, we just need to look at the huge variety of ethnic diets in the world, and each diet type has healthy happy active contributing people eating it.

LaJaunaF

Atkins died of a heart attack (all meat and no veggies makes for sad organs), and even this article points out that this sort of diet should be short-term rather than a lifestyle. If you want a lifestyle try paleo or primal, you can forever refuse breads and processed grains, but you'll get healthy carbs from fruits and veggies.

Wow, that was a long rant for an iPad post.
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It is so sad that this urban myth is still around. Dr Atkins slipped and fell while walking to work. He hit his head and caused serious head injury, putting him into a coma which eventually killed him.

LaJaunaF

There are so many people doing low fat and still cannot lose. There are so many people doing low fat and are still diabetic and hypertensive.

The same can be said for low carb.

Untrue. If you are following the doctor's recommendations as a diabetic (my hubby is one), you will keep your carbs (healthy, plant based ones) under 100g a day. That is low compared to most SAD dieters. My husband's doctor always wants to know if he is keeping his carbs controlled. So, I am assuming that his doctor knows that carbs are connected to his controlling his diabetes. The goal is to get him off of his meds and back to control through diet (low carb).