Any foods that you think have gotten a bad rap??

BrendaLee
BrendaLee Posts: 4,463 Member
edited September 20 in Food and Nutrition
Are there any foods that you think have gotten an unnecessary bad rap?

For me:

Egg yolk: The egg yolk is the most nutrient packed part of the egg, and it seems silly to separate the best part and toss it away. Moderation is in order, but don't dismiss the benefits of a good old fashioned egg (and tossing it is waseful!). I wouldn't eat 3 or 4 eggs every day, but I wouldn't hesitate to have a couple of whole eggs a week at least.

Cheese: Cheese definitely has it's place in a healthy diet. It's delicious, and contains tons of essential nutrients. Some cheeses are better than other cheeses, but it only takes a little of a really good cheese to add a ton of flavor. I see a lot of cheese-guilt on the boards, and I feel zero guilt about enjoying my daily piece of cheese.

I think the old adage- all things in moderation really holds true for these two things.
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  • Shanta1983
    Shanta1983 Posts: 1,228 Member
    I totally agree with you BrendaLee:flowerforyou:
  • Jovialation
    Jovialation Posts: 7,632 Member
    haha I have a feeling I may have inspired this a bit with my egg white with no cheese burrito.
    I go with the whites alone because the calories are so much lower that I can have more things with my breakfast than just the eggs!

    Sometimes Ill get a good ol' omelette with whole eggs for the taste and the nutrition, but other times I want that buttered toast, snacks, and a good dinner later without having to workout a ton for it so I go with the whites.

    As for cheese...my bf is always teasing me that I put cheese or grated parmesan on EVERYTHING. Seriously. I even add grated parm to things that come cheese-y packaged. Its an addiction.
    I even went to the WI state fair just to get fried cheese on a stick :laugh:


    Theres plenty foods I think have a bad rep...mostly foreign food. Its funny how going out to eat foreign food seems to make so many people think "bad", when really its not always all that bad!

    Theres also food that I think have an undeserved good rep....like salad! Unless youre having just lettuce with that spray on dressing then its just as bad as any attempt at healthy food if not worse.
    Its a whole meal, too! At least if you like croutons as much as I do!
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    Eggs- I use 1 egg to 3 egg whites. at least twice a week. Love my eggs!!

    Cheese-well, I will never give up cheese. But I did change to eating full fat cheese, but less of it. the LF stuff has so much junk in it........

    Peanut butter is given a bad rap, and I see ppl saying they need to elimate this from their diet. :noway:
    No way! I love my PB. Again, I now eat the Organic sugar/salt free stuff.......in other words PEAUNUT butter:laugh:

    Olive Oil -oil is essential to our bodies and brains.

    I agree Brenda, everything in moderation.

    :flowerforyou: Jeannie
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    haha I have a feeling I may have inspired this a bit with my egg white with no cheese burrito.
    I go with the whites alone because the calories are so much lower that I can have more things with my breakfast than just the eggs!

    Sometimes Ill get a good ol' omelette with whole eggs for the taste and the nutrition, but other times I want that buttered toast, snacks, and a good dinner later without having to workout a ton for it so I go with the whites.

    As for cheese...my bf is always teasing me that I put cheese or grated parmesan on EVERYTHING. Seriously. I even add grated parm to things that come cheese-y packaged. Its an addiction.
    I even went to the WI state fair just to get fried cheese on a stick :laugh:


    Theres plenty foods I think have a bad rep...mostly foreign food. Its funny how going out to eat foreign food seems to make so many people think "bad", when really its not always all that bad!

    Theres also food that I think have an undeserved good rep....like salad! Unless youre having just lettuce with that spray on dressing then its just as bad as any attempt at healthy food if not worse.
    Its a whole meal, too! At least if you like croutons as much as I do!

    I once refused to eat my spaghetti until my DH got back with the Parmesan.:laugh:
  • Jovialation
    Jovialation Posts: 7,632 Member
    I love love love grated parmesan...ive even put it on toast with *dun dun dun* olive oil! its so tasty together!

    I love peanut butter too but after I saw how bad the processed stuff was I just stopped eating it because Im afraid I wont like the "real" stuff. :tongue:

    Ice creams got a bad rep too. The double churned Edys is only 130 cals per half cup! THATS AWESOME. haha
  • iRun4wine
    iRun4wine Posts: 5,126
    Nuts. I stayed away from them for the longest time, but they really do have a lot of benefits. They're just one of those things where portion control makes all the difference in the world! They're the only kind of 100 calorie packs I buy- the others are mostly empty calories.
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    Nuts. I stayed away from them for the longest time, but they really do have a lot of benefits. They're just one of those things where portion control makes all the difference in the world! They're the only kind of 100 calorie packs I buy- the others are mostly empty calories.

    reminds me of my healthy friend. she said she needed something to have in her car for protien in the event she was stuck in traffic. I advised unsalted natural almonds do well for me on the road

    So she bought a canister of Almonds that fit right in her cup holder on the door. She tells me a few weeks later she has gained a few pounds and wants to stop it right away so wanted to go over all she was doing.

    Turns out she had bouth SIX of the canisters and they were all gone! She was eating 1/2 the container on the way home each day, which was approx 8 servings or so!!

    :tongue:
  • BrendaLee
    BrendaLee Posts: 4,463 Member
    haha I have a feeling I may have inspired this a bit with my egg white with no cheese burrito.

    You were my inspiration! lol
  • BrendaLee
    BrendaLee Posts: 4,463 Member
    haha I have a feeling I may have inspired this a bit with my egg white with no cheese burrito.
    I go with the whites alone because the calories are so much lower that I can have more things with my breakfast than just the eggs!

    Sometimes Ill get a good ol' omelette with whole eggs for the taste and the nutrition, but other times I want that buttered toast, snacks, and a good dinner later without having to workout a ton for it so I go with the whites.

    As for cheese...my bf is always teasing me that I put cheese or grated parmesan on EVERYTHING. Seriously. I even add grated parm to things that come cheese-y packaged. Its an addiction.
    I even went to the WI state fair just to get fried cheese on a stick :laugh:


    Theres plenty foods I think have a bad rep...mostly foreign food. Its funny how going out to eat foreign food seems to make so many people think "bad", when really its not always all that bad!

    Theres also food that I think have an undeserved good rep....like salad! Unless youre having just lettuce with that spray on dressing then its just as bad as any attempt at healthy food if not worse.
    Its a whole meal, too! At least if you like croutons as much as I do!

    I once refused to eat my spaghetti until my DH got back with the Parmesan.:laugh:

    I won't even prepare pasta if I don't have some sort of cheese in the house. Pasta is just so...blah without it! It's amazing how the tiniest bit of cheese makes it so much better. :smile:

    Salad can be practically junk food once you start loading stuff on it.
  • BrendaLee
    BrendaLee Posts: 4,463 Member
    Nuts. I stayed away from them for the longest time, but they really do have a lot of benefits. They're just one of those things where portion control makes all the difference in the world! They're the only kind of 100 calorie packs I buy- the others are mostly empty calories.

    reminds me of my healthy friend. she said she needed something to have in her car for protien in the event she was stuck in traffic. I advised unsalted natural almonds do well for me on the road

    So she bought a canister of Almonds that fit right in her cup holder on the door. She tells me a few weeks later she has gained a few pounds and wants to stop it right away so wanted to go over all she was doing.

    Turns out she had bouth SIX of the canisters and they were all gone! She was eating 1/2 the container on the way home each day, which was approx 8 servings or so!!

    :tongue:

    I had a can of whole, unsalted almonds in my cart last night, and I so wanted to buy them because I know they're good for you, but they had like .5 gram fat in each one...50 was 25 grams of fat, and I knew I couldn't limit myself to just a few. I might get a can next time and try to save them for tossing a few in my salad.
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    I love love love grated parmesan...ive even put it on toast with *dun dun dun* olive oil! its so tasty together!

    I love peanut butter too but after I saw how bad the processed stuff was I just stopped eating it because Im afraid I wont like the "real" stuff. :tongue:

    Ice creams got a bad rep too. The double churned Edys is only 130 cals per half cup! THATS AWESOME. haha

    Jovi I love the Smuckers Organic PB. you have to stir it when first opened as the oil separates.

    It took 2 sammiches before I was hooked:love:
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    Nuts. I stayed away from them for the longest time, but they really do have a lot of benefits. They're just one of those things where portion control makes all the difference in the world! They're the only kind of 100 calorie packs I buy- the others are mostly empty calories.

    reminds me of my healthy friend. she said she needed something to have in her car for protien in the event she was stuck in traffic. I advised unsalted natural almonds do well for me on the road

    So she bought a canister of Almonds that fit right in her cup holder on the door. She tells me a few weeks later she has gained a few pounds and wants to stop it right away so wanted to go over all she was doing.

    Turns out she had bouth SIX of the canisters and they were all gone! She was eating 1/2 the container on the way home each day, which was approx 8 servings or so!!

    :tongue:

    I had a can of whole, unsalted almonds in my cart last night, and I so wanted to buy them because I know they're good for you, but they had like .5 gram fat in each one...50 was 25 grams of fat, and I knew I couldn't limit myself to just a few. I might get a can next time and try to save them for tossing a few in my salad.

    I bought those little Glad cups and separated 24 into each cup. I know it is 180 cals and the fat is the good kind of fat.

    Pair it up with some apple slices:love:
  • :drinker:

    I think in general, protein gets a bad rap. While lots of fat is not a good thing, our skin needs a little to say healthy. Protein is filling and keeps us satisfied for a longer time than sugar's and such. Its all in how you prepare it and the choices of cuts and of course the serving size.
  • ivykivy
    ivykivy Posts: 2,970 Member
    I agree with the eggs. My mom was tossing the yellows and I told her to stop and save the for me. I have 2 -3 yolks a day for the past year or so guess what no cholesterol problem triglycerides 42. Now experts are saying eating two whole eggs a day won't raise your cholesterol.

    I know 20 years ago the doctor to my grandmother to stop eating salmon because it was high in cholesterol. To this day she won't eat them. That just proves to me not be so quick to jump on every bandwagon.

    Also butter . Now 'experts' say eat butter instead of the fake margarine and spreads b/c they cause heart disease. I guess it's like the song says. Ain't nothing like the real thing. :happy:
    Are there any foods that you think have gotten an unnecessary bad rap?

    For me:

    Egg yolk: The egg yolk is the most nutrient packed part of the egg, and it seems silly to separate the best part and toss it away. Moderation is in order, but don't dismiss the benefits of a good old fashioned egg (and tossing it is waseful!). I wouldn't eat 3 or 4 eggs every day, but I wouldn't hesitate to have a couple of whole eggs a week at least.

    Cheese: Cheese definitely has it's place in a healthy diet. It's delicious, and contains tons of essential nutrients. Some cheeses are better than other cheeses, but it only takes a little of a really good cheese to add a ton of flavor. I see a lot of cheese-guilt on the boards, and I feel zero guilt about enjoying my daily piece of cheese.

    I think the old adage- all things in moderation really holds true for these two things.
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    I agree with the eggs. My mom was tossing the yellows and I told her to stop and save the for me. I have 2 -3 yolks a day for the past year or so guess what no cholesterol problem triglycerides 42. Now experts are saying eating two whole eggs a day won't raise your cholesterol.

    I know 20 years ago the doctor to my grandmother to stop eating salmon because it was high in cholesterol. To this day she won't eat them. That just proves to me not be so quick to jump on every bandwagon.

    Also butter . Now 'experts' say eat butter instead of the fake margarine and spreads b/c they cause heart disease. I guess it's like the song says. Ain't nothing like the real thing. :happy:


    Ivy..........I agree so much about the bandwagon mentality. Everything in moderation!
  • BrendaLee
    BrendaLee Posts: 4,463 Member
    Also butter . Now 'experts' say eat butter instead of the fake margarine and spreads b/c they cause heart disease. I guess it's like the song says. Ain't nothing like the real thing. :happy:

    I don't know if I've ever tasted real butter. I think I have in restaurants in those little packets, but I've never once bought butter. I tend to buy the Omega 3 margarine, but I think I'm going to switch to olive oil for cooking...and I may even buy a little butter.
  • Shanta1983
    Shanta1983 Posts: 1,228 Member
    Eggs- I use 1 egg to 3 egg whites. at least twice a week. Love my eggs!!

    Cheese-well, I will never give up cheese. But I did change to eating full fat cheese, but less of it. the LF stuff has so much junk in it........

    Peanut butter is given a bad rap, and I see ppl saying they need to elimate this from their diet. :noway:
    No way! I love my PB. Again, I now eat the Organic sugar/salt free stuff.......in other words PEAUNUT butter:laugh:

    Olive Oil -oil is essential to our bodies and brains.

    I agree Brenda, everything in moderation.

    :flowerforyou: Jeannie

    I agree with you to Jeannie...Im not given up cheese or eggs only in moderation,Because to much of anything is not good for you anyways..And I have no problems loosing weight..Why cause I believe in moderation now more than ever:wink:
  • lilangel7671
    lilangel7671 Posts: 353 Member
    Pasta! Now indeed it is calorie and carbohydrate dense, BUT again in moderation pasta is NOT so bad! I tend to do some sort of pasta dish 1-2 x's a week (whole wheat ones of course:tongue: , brown rice) Maybe be that is too much? haha..I stay within portion and calories for the day, and always exercise, so I think I'm fine!:laugh:
  • I agree about nuts and peanut butter having an undesearved bad rap. Now, oil soaked, super salty addicting roasted nuts are pure evil, but delicious and wholesome raw nuts are my favorite snack.

    Fruit, too.

    My favorite unfairly maligned foods to champion are french fries and popcorn. Like nuts, there are terribly unwholesome things people do to them that make them bad for your body, but they can be part of a healthy diet. I give my kid popcorn for breakfast. Look at me sideways if you want, but other people feed them cornflakes and think that's "better" ? No way.
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    I agree about nuts and peanut butter having an undesearved bad rap. Now, oil soaked, super salty addicting roasted nuts are pure evil, but delicious and wholesome raw nuts are my favorite snack.

    Fruit, too.

    My favorite unfairly maligned foods to champion are french fries and popcorn. Like nuts, there are terribly unwholesome things people do to them that make them bad for your body, but they can be part of a healthy diet. I give my kid popcorn for breakfast. Look at me sideways if you want, but other people feed them cornflakes and think that's "better" ? No way.

    Doesn't the popcorn get soggy when you pour the milk on??:wink::laugh: :laugh:

    I don't see anything wrong with popcorn, if it isn't loaded with salt and butter. It is one of my fav snacks!!
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
    Yes, saturated fats (animal fats).
  • mrd232
    mrd232 Posts: 331
    Most of my daily intake gets a horrible rap. Sometimes I wonder if people turn into instant cardiologists when they see someone eating bacon....ANYWAY, here's what I think gets a bad rap that shouldn't:

    1. EGG YOLKS (this was already posted)
    2. Butter
    3. Red meat
    4. Whole milk
    5. Whole yogurt
    6. Beef tallow OR lard (for use namely as a cooking medium...EVOO and most liquid oils go rancid at higher heat. Animal fats, butter, ghee are really the ways to go for more stable cooking grease.)
    7. Bacon
    8. Beets (why must everyone hate beets!?)
    9. Lamb (I know it's a cute and fuzzy animal..sorry Clareeeece)
    10.Coffee / Tea / Caffeine in general

    Hi I'm Melissa, and I've lost weight eating LARD. Yep, lard. I approve this message.
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
    My eating plan looks similar to yours. I am always being told I am a walking heart attack, yet my cholesterol and trigs are better than they have been in years. I am also reversing my diabetes.

    Most of my daily intake gets a horrible rap. Sometimes I wonder if people turn into instant cardiologists when they see someone eating bacon....ANYWAY, here's what I think gets a bad rap that shouldn't:

    1. EGG YOLKS (this was already posted)
    2. Butter
    3. Red meat
    4. Whole milk
    5. Whole yogurt
    6. Beef tallow OR lard (for use namely as a cooking medium...EVOO and most liquid oils go rancid at higher heat. Animal fats, butter, ghee are really the ways to go for more stable cooking grease.)
    7. Bacon
    8. Beets (why must everyone hate beets!?)
    9. Lamb (I know it's a cute and fuzzy animal..sorry Clareeeece)
    10.Coffee / Tea / Caffeine in general

    Hi I'm Melissa, and I've lost weight eating LARD. Yep, lard. I approve this message.
  • mrd232
    mrd232 Posts: 331
    Haha, yep, isn't it funny how everyone becomes your cardiologist when you eat something with fat in it? "OH...don't eat that. It's going to clog your arteries!" Usually the advice comes from:

    A) Someone in much worse shape than I
    B) Someone who has many more health problems than I
    C) Someone who does very little research and believes most everything marketing and doctors tell them.

    Unfortunately in most discussions, their ideas (i.e. low fat, standard "healthy" advice) typically wins the favor of others around them. BUT, I must say, I have been seeing a lot more promising research and articles regarding the benefits of fat and lower carbohydrate diets.
    My eating plan looks similar to yours. I am always being told I am a walking heart attack, yet my cholesterol and trigs are better than they have been in years. I am also reversing my diabetes.

    Most of my daily intake gets a horrible rap. Sometimes I wonder if people turn into instant cardiologists when they see someone eating bacon....ANYWAY, here's what I think gets a bad rap that shouldn't:

    1. EGG YOLKS (this was already posted)
    2. Butter
    3. Red meat
    4. Whole milk
    5. Whole yogurt
    6. Beef tallow OR lard (for use namely as a cooking medium...EVOO and most liquid oils go rancid at higher heat. Animal fats, butter, ghee are really the ways to go for more stable cooking grease.)
    7. Bacon
    8. Beets (why must everyone hate beets!?)
    9. Lamb (I know it's a cute and fuzzy animal..sorry Clareeeece)
    10.Coffee / Tea / Caffeine in general

    Hi I'm Melissa, and I've lost weight eating LARD. Yep, lard. I approve this message.
  • madmama
    madmama Posts: 123 Member
    Most of my daily intake gets a horrible rap. Sometimes I wonder if people turn into instant cardiologists when they see someone eating bacon....ANYWAY, here's what I think gets a bad rap that shouldn't:

    1. EGG YOLKS (this was already posted)
    2. Butter
    3. Red meat
    4. Whole milk
    5. Whole yogurt
    6. Beef tallow OR lard (for use namely as a cooking medium...EVOO and most liquid oils go rancid at higher heat. Animal fats, butter, ghee are really the ways to go for more stable cooking grease.)
    7. Bacon
    8. Beets (why must everyone hate beets!?)
    9. Lamb (I know it's a cute and fuzzy animal..sorry Clareeeece)
    10.Coffee / Tea / Caffeine in general

    Hi I'm Melissa, and I've lost weight eating LARD. Yep, lard. I approve this message.

    I am in agreement with you. The only doctor I listen to in mine and she tells me I have cholesterol levels most people would kill for, so I continue eating the things I like in MODERATION it works for me.
    :heart:
  • Wecandothis
    Wecandothis Posts: 1,083 Member
    Coconut oil is another one. I use that and EVOO. It's very good for you. :-)
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
    Yes, I believe so too. Natural, low carb, higher fat is the way to go for good health. A lot of doctors are starting to "get it".

    I have actually converted my family practice doctor over to thinking this way and revisiting the standard low calorie / low fat eating plan.

    It is amazing to be able to eat upwards of 2000 - 2400 calories per day and lose weight effortlessly, be full and satisfied. :drinker: :drinker:
    Haha, yep, isn't it funny how everyone becomes your cardiologist when you eat something with fat in it? "OH...don't eat that. It's going to clog your arteries!" Usually the advice comes from:

    A) Someone in much worse shape than I
    B) Someone who has many more health problems than I
    C) Someone who does very little research and believes most everything marketing and doctors tell them.

    Unfortunately in most discussions, their ideas (i.e. low fat, standard "healthy" advice) typically wins the favor of others around them. BUT, I must say, I have been seeing a lot more promising research and articles regarding the benefits of fat and lower carbohydrate diets.
    My eating plan looks similar to yours. I am always being told I am a walking heart attack, yet my cholesterol and trigs are better than they have been in years. I am also reversing my diabetes.

    Most of my daily intake gets a horrible rap. Sometimes I wonder if people turn into instant cardiologists when they see someone eating bacon....ANYWAY, here's what I think gets a bad rap that shouldn't:

    1. EGG YOLKS (this was already posted)
    2. Butter
    3. Red meat
    4. Whole milk
    5. Whole yogurt
    6. Beef tallow OR lard (for use namely as a cooking medium...EVOO and most liquid oils go rancid at higher heat. Animal fats, butter, ghee are really the ways to go for more stable cooking grease.)
    7. Bacon
    8. Beets (why must everyone hate beets!?)
    9. Lamb (I know it's a cute and fuzzy animal..sorry Clareeeece)
    10.Coffee / Tea / Caffeine in general

    Hi I'm Melissa, and I've lost weight eating LARD. Yep, lard. I approve this message.
  • BrendaLee
    BrendaLee Posts: 4,463 Member
    Coconut oil is another one. I use that and EVOO. It's very good for you. :-)

    What do you do with coconut oil?
  • Wecandothis
    Wecandothis Posts: 1,083 Member
    I cook with coconut oil! It does add a coconut taste so I don't use it for everything. But I use it to make Pineapple chicken and veggies, beef and green pepper - and many other things. It's very good.

    I also use it for dry skin. It smells wonderful.
  • dewdrop
    dewdrop Posts: 1,715 Member
    I absolutely :love: this topic, so I'll save it in My topics :wink: . Go natural! :drinker:
    (Brenda, you seem to read my mind with your topics :happy: : I was going to ask Melissa today about the butter - whether it's good fat or not. The answer is right here - thank you all :flowerforyou: )
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