Lifting Question

Sarauk2sf

I have put 10lbs of solid muscle on a client in a little under 2 weeks.

The length, lack of paragraphs, and relentless listing of his bona fides make his post easy to mock, but his main point is on point. Lifting 90% of Max is dangerous and silly and terrible advice for a beginner. That's what he was trying to get at and I hope people hear it thru the background noise. Nobody get hurt out there

I was mocking the claim I quoted (as were a few others which you have chosen to ignore) not the rest of it (hence why it was not quoted) as it was harmless.

I am not sure where you got the fact that I was disagreeing that lifting at 90% of max is a bad idea for a beginner.

Jeez! Sensitive much? I wasn't picking on you nor was I ignoring the other similar posts. Your was the most recent so I quoted that one. Nothing personal. And I didn't suggest anything you did or did not disagree with. Just picked a random post. I swear. Good God.

About the claim. I believe it. Sort of. I believe his pupil may have put on 10ish pounds. But primarily water weight, not muscle. I put on 8 pounds in June when I loaded creatine for the first time in 2 years. My training partner only weighs 165 and gained 7 pounds for the same reason. If I was selling PT, I would have told him it was all muscle too. But it's the water retention.

Calm down! I was trying to understand what you were getting at.

DavPul

I have put 10lbs of solid muscle on a client in a little under 2 weeks.

The length, lack of paragraphs, and relentless listing of his bona fides make his post easy to mock, but his main point is on point. Lifting 90% of Max is dangerous and silly and terrible advice for a beginner. That's what he was trying to get at and I hope people hear it thru the background noise. Nobody get hurt out there

I was mocking the claim I quoted (as were a few others which you have chosen to ignore) not the rest of it (hence why it was not quoted) as it was harmless.

I am not sure where you got the fact that I was disagreeing that lifting at 90% of max is a bad idea for a beginner.

Jeez! Sensitive much? I wasn't picking on you nor was I ignoring the other similar posts. Your was the most recent so I quoted that one. Nothing personal. And I didn't suggest anything you did or did not disagree with. Just picked a random post. I swear. Good God.

About the claim. I believe it. Sort of. I believe his pupil may have put on 10ish pounds. But primarily water weight, not muscle. I put on 8 pounds in June when I loaded creatine for the first time in 2 years. My training partner only weighs 165 and gained 7 pounds for the same reason. If I was selling PT, I would have told him it was all muscle too. But it's the water retention

Calm down! I was trying to understand what you were getting at.

You're completely right. My carbs have been low (by my standards, anyway) this week so at the end of the day I'm a total crab *kitten*. I apologize. I'm gonna go get some Ben and Jerry's before I kill again

Sarauk2sf

You're completely right. My carbs have been low (by my standards, anyway) this week so at the end of the day I'm a total crab *kitten*. I apologize. I'm gonna go get some Ben and Jerry's before I kill again

Thank you very much, and we're good!! Go get that B&J and enjoy!!

nick1109

I have put 10lbs of solid muscle on a client in a little under 2 weeks.

Agree. What a load crap, 10lbs of muscle in 2 weeks is impossible even taking drugs

geeniusatwurk

considering that most people dont even know what their 1RM is, i seriously doubt there's going to be a rash of gym injuries because legions of people are working at 90% of that amount.

most people, especially women, underestimate their strength and many are hesitant to increase weight any more frequent than every 6 weeks.

and yeah newbs in general shouldnt even worry about their 1RM until theyve got a good 6-12 months of solid weight training and have great form

Yeesh, I use one number (90%) that works for me and now I'm seeing it everywhere. But the quoted post is where I was coming from. I didn't start worrying about my 1RM until I went from Starting Strength to Texas Method, back when I was debating between 5/3/1 and TM. Weeks 2 and 3 of the recommended 5/3/1 have you at 90 and 95% of your 1RM, and TM's volume day is 85-90% 5x5.

So my 90% 1 RM wasn't pulled out of my butt or anything, but I mistakenly didn't clarify like the quoted post does, and for that I feel partly responsible for all this back and forth. When I first started lifting I was just worried about not hurting my back or dropping the bar on my neck, and I didn't even hear about the concept of 1RM until I asked around for an intermediate program and was told about the STRSTD site. Once I learned about it though, I forgot the fact that I didn't always know it, and my first post reflected that.

Can we ignore the quibbling over the 5th set and get back to posting funny reaction pics/gifs to 10 pounds of solid muscle in 2 weeks?

Rae6503

Growing muscle tissue usually requires you eat above your TDEE.

You can get stronger without growing muscles. Basically your body just learns to do things better. Nervous system adaptations.

So I was thinking that I'd try eating AT tdee when I start lifting... I'm going to still have a few lbs of fat I need to shed and according to the scooby workshop calculator thingie, if you set a goal to "lose fat and gain muscle" you can do it by eating at tdee...

See, my goal weight with my existing lean mass would be 150 lbs (20% body fat) but if I'm up to 160 I don't mind as long as I don't jiggle So I don't have too much farther to go, really... I'm kinda hoping starting to lift and eating at maintenance will do both.

Opinions?

I still had a few pounds of fat left when I started my bulk last winter (eating above TDEE and lifting heavy). I just didn't want to diet and bulking sounded fun. Honestly before my bulk I thought I had 10lbs of fat to lose, afterward I think I still only have 10lbs to lose, maybe even less. I'm sure I gained some fat during the bulk, but where it was positioned, etc, it's not noticeable. The extra muscle somehow makes my fat prettier. :glasses: