MFP 1200 cal goal
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By that logic, the smaller the deficit, the healthier? So a 200 lb. woman should spend the next 5 years losing 50 lbs.? That's clearly not optimal, either. There are health benefits to getting your body to a healthy weight, especially for the obese.
It's just a matter of choices. If you believe that a shallow deficit of say 300 calories a day is best (and losing 3 lbs/month), that's ok. If you think losing 2 lbs/week is better for your life and goals, that's considered safe, too. If one is concerned that the former is safER than the latter, they can definitely research that.
But telling them here that 2 lbs/week is dangerous is just misinformation.
You miss the point.
People can lose 2lbs a week while eating high cals.
It's happening now!
I'm simply saying 1200cals is not an accurate way of setting up a diet.
It needs to take into account age, height, weight and body fat.
I'll say it again, I have obese III people eating at a smaller deficit and losing weight.
This doesnt seem to sink in for you though.
I'll let them decide.
Heres one from today.
"I'm amazed, plateaued at 141 for several weeks. After reading your roadmap post, I upped my calories and started eating back my exercise calories and I have lost 4 pounds in 2 weeks. I cannot believe all the ill advice and misunderstood good intentions there are when it comes to fueling your body, burning fat, and loosing weight.
Though it was really hard to eat more, until the scale started moving... wow."
Following my info she dropped 2lbs a week at a 20% deficit from TDEE.
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plateaued at 141 for several weeks
Before - calories eaten, exercise calories, weight loss (zero, presumably)
After - calories eaten, exercise calories, weight loss (2 lbs/week, presumably)
Height / weight / age / gender
2 lbs/week = 7000 (MFP) to 8750 calories per week deficit. TDEE over 5000 calories/day ?Since I am technically still obese by BMI standards, I went with 30% below TDEE, rounded to 1500. (I was doing 1200 for several weeks before.) I fully expected to just maintain or even gain a little for a couple weeks but, instead, I lost 2.6 lbs the first week upping my calories0 -
Math and science do not apply to Dan's group. They get to bypass the laws of thermodynamics.0
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I wish I was cool enough to be in Dan's group....*looks away wistfully into the distance*0
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I wish I was cool enough to be in Dan's group....*looks away wistfully into the distance*
These doors are open to everyone.
;D
All you have to do is try it out.0 -
I actually think they are both right. But I definitely side with Dan because he's always trying to help and someone attacks his eating more advice with eating less. I always pipe in on these arguments. I'm telling you all right now they BOTH work great. Whatever works for you man. But if you can get your head around that starving yourself to lose weight crap you will feel a ton better about yourself. The thing about 1200 cals is it's an easy way out that just flat out isn't AS good for your body. Despite if you like it or not Mcarter, all that fat energy your body has to burn is just energy, nothing else. Your body needs specific nutrients every single day to use a long with that energy. I don't have to drink energy drinks. You know why? Because I always feel really good and I keep my body FULL of everything it needs.0
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Your body needs specific nutrients every single day to use a long with that energy.
1200 calories of food provides the nutrients your body needs in a day, which is why those with medical degrees and those in the weight loss industry almost invariably use it as a 'one size fits all' floor.
I'm not advocating anyone eat 1200. I'm advocating correct information. With correct info, people should make their own decision. Saying your body needs to fuel today's workout with today's intake is not true.0 -
I've been reading about eat less vs eat more cals since I joined MFP...does anybody have any results longer than 2wks progress? That's all I've read on this thread - I need to see some long term results because I'm def in the "calories in/calories out" group.0
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I've been reading about eat less vs eat more cals since I joined MFP...does anybody have any results longer than 2wks progress? That's all I've read on this thread - I need to see some long term results because I'm def in the "calories in/calories out" group.
How about these - http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/531086-before-and-after-pics-no-starvation0 -
1200 calories can work for some people. Its been working for me. For 2 months I was at a standstill with my weight and than 2 weeks ago I dropped to 1200 and now I am dropping weight. I'm not sluggish and I have energy. I exercise and I'm happy. Sometimes it works.0
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I would suggest not to go by the mfp calories. try here
scooysworkshop.com
you can input your height/ age and weight it will tell you the right calories you need.
for myheight weight age I need 1,450.0
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