Skipping Breakfast?
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As it relates to weight loss, I’m not sure of the correct answer. I’m a chronic “non-breakfast” eater, and I honestly think it’s been detrimental. I have found that whenever I do try to lose weight, it comes off much faster if I do eat breakfast regularly. It also means I’m hungry all day long, whereas if I don’t eat breakfast, I can go most of the day without eating. This seems to corroborate the notion that eating early turns on the metabolism for the rest of the day, at least in my case.
But there’s another reason to eat breakfast not related to weight management. It has to do with blood sugar levels. I was recently doing some research on how to lower blood sugar levels because I have been steadily creeping toward “pre-diabetic” levels over the last several years. Without getting too technical, adult onset diabetes is usually related to the body developing an insulin resistance. Insulin is needed to break down the glucose derived from what we eat. The more insulin the pancreas has to secrete over time to handle the blood glucose, the less effective that insulin becomes. Then it has to secrete more to keep up with glucose levels. Over time, it can’t keep up, and blood sugar rises along with the insulin resistance. Since insulin is secreted in direct response to how much glucose there is to handle, eating smaller meals more often will help level out the amount needed. With each small meal, only a small amount of insulin is needed. And if these meals are spread out throughout the day, it allows for a steady state blood glucose level, rather than peaks and valleys.
If you ate only one meal a day, but that meal was 1,400 calories, you still might lose weight. But you’d create a situation where the pancreas has to secrete a huge amount of insulin to handle that much food. And it’s the large amount of insulin that can cause the body to become resistant to its effects.
So it stands to reason that breakfast is important, not only because there might be metabolism benefits, but it also helps to smooth out the blood glucose curves and allows for as little insulin use as possible. That’s a clear benefit that makes sense to me. Hence, I eat a small breakfast (since I’m not really hungry), then I snack on healthy things all day long (since I’m hungry the rest of the day). I just have to make sure that lunch and supper are not gigantic meals. I’m able to stay within my calorie range, and I’m helping my body by allowing it to not have to use much insulin.
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Do whatever works for you
I hardly eat breakfast because I simply don't get hungry until 10 or later, so when my tummy does start rumbling, I usually have some fruit which holds me over until I eat lunch at noon
As long as you are getting in your calories & nutrients, no worries.
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VVV THIS is one of the best written post I have read in a while VVVAs it relates to weight loss, I’m not sure of the correct answer. I’m a chronic “non-breakfast” eater, and I honestly think it’s been detrimental. I have found that whenever I do try to lose weight, it comes off much faster if I do eat breakfast regularly. It also means I’m hungry all day long, whereas if I don’t eat breakfast, I can go most of the day without eating. This seems to corroborate the notion that eating early turns on the metabolism for the rest of the day, at least in my case.
But there’s another reason to eat breakfast not related to weight management. It has to do with blood sugar levels. I was recently doing some research on how to lower blood sugar levels because I have been steadily creeping toward “pre-diabetic” levels over the last several years. Without getting too technical, adult onset diabetes is usually related to the body developing an insulin resistance. Insulin is needed to break down the glucose derived from what we eat. The more insulin the pancreas has to secrete over time to handle the blood glucose, the less effective that insulin becomes. Then it has to secrete more to keep up with glucose levels. Over time, it can’t keep up, and blood sugar rises along with the insulin resistance. Since insulin is secreted in direct response to how much glucose there is to handle, eating smaller meals more often will help level out the amount needed. With each small meal, only a small amount of insulin is needed. And if these meals are spread out throughout the day, it allows for a steady state blood glucose level, rather than peaks and valleys.
If you ate only one meal a day, but that meal was 1,400 calories, you still might lose weight. But you’d create a situation where the pancreas has to secrete a huge amount of insulin to handle that much food. And it’s the large amount of insulin that can cause the body to become resistant to its effects.
So it stands to reason that breakfast is important, not only because there might be metabolism benefits, but it also helps to smooth out the blood glucose curves and allows for as little insulin use as possible. That’s a clear benefit that makes sense to me. Hence, I eat a small breakfast (since I’m not really hungry), then I snack on healthy things all day long (since I’m hungry the rest of the day). I just have to make sure that lunch and supper are not gigantic meals. I’m able to stay within my calorie range, and I’m helping my body by allowing it to not have to use much insulin.
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I found I was skipping breakfast then an hour later was snacking on crisps and chocolate so I started taking yogurts to work and an apple
I can't say I've noticed a difference in my weight as yet but I definitely feel better for it
I think every person is different tho and you should listen to your body
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I never eat breakfast. Here are some reasons why: http://stronglifts.com/7-reasons-why-you-should-not-eat-breakfast/0
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I eat about 200 calories or less for breakfast (usually coffee with a splash of cream and some toast with jam). I HATE eating breakfast, but I'm on meds that require it. Otherwise, I wouldn't.0
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I have not been a breakfast eater myself, mostly because I am not hungry when I first get up and don't feel like eating, However, I recently had a consultation with an outstanding nutritionist who said that it is very important to eat breakfast and suggested a nonfat yogurt with fruit and perhaps a few Grapenuts on top, or a smoothie. Now that sounded do-able to me as it is not very filing or heavy. Perhaps that type of item for breakfast might be helpful for you by being so light or being a beverage so it doesn't set off other eating?0
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I believe I eat more when I eat breakfast. But since I work days, I have to eat breakfast otherwise I get sick/shaky.
Before, when I worked evenings though, I never ate until 12 or 1 in the afternoon, would have a regular-size lunch, then not eat again until 6 or 7 at night, and have a big dinner. That's it.
Since I've worked days, I eat breakfast, lunch, dinner, and usually 1 snack, occasionally 2. Probably explains why I've gained 40+ pounds since switching to days (almost 2 years ago).
I think you can make it work either way, though. Since starting here, I'm creating more regular eating patterns and learning how to control my portion sizes - portion control is more important than anything, I think.0 -
YES, YOU ARE DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD.
We have all heard the line "breakfast is the most important meal of the day." Why is this? Well, your body is literally fasting overnight. You must break that fast in order to JUMPSTART your METABOLISM. While we sleep, our metabolism slows down to a crawl...if you do not jumpstart it with food within 30 minutes of rising, it will continue to crawl. It's very counter intuitive to want to lose weight but accept a sluggish metabolism.
There are also the factors of providing your body and brain with fuel. Remember how we are told to always eat in the morning before an exam in school when we were younger...it's not a cliche. It's real ****.
Eating later in the day also opens you up to the risk of gorging on foods later.
If you are hungry - you may want to consider changing what you are eating and how often you are eating. Start with lots of protein, at each meal. Protein is your #1 priority. Veggies are #2. Fruit is dessert or #3. If eaten as a snack, make sure you eat some protein first (nuts, protein shakes, meat, whatever.)
Meet with a nutritionist and go over your options. You CAN do this. It's a lifestyle change. For anyone who tells you to "go with what you know" or "do what feels right" they want you to succeed, but they are NOT providing you with the correct information.0 -
I skip breakfast every day because once I start eating I find it hard to stop. I typically eat lunch around 1:00 then try not to eat again until dinner then one light snack before bed. Am I doing more harm then good by doing this?
Studies have already proven that it doesn't matter when you eat. As long as you meet your calorie goals (and in a deficit) you will lose weight. I've seen plenty of successful people on this forum; one eats a single meal per day and it is like 2000 or 3000 calories, another eats 3 meals a day, personally I eat anywhere from 4 to 6 depending on my hunger levels.0 -
YES, YOU ARE DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD.
We have all heard the line "breakfast is the most important meal of the day." Why is this? Well, your body is literally fasting overnight. You must break that fast in order to JUMPSTART your METABOLISM. While we sleep, our metabolism slows down to a crawl...if you do not jumpstart it with food within 30 minutes of rising, it will continue to crawl. It's very counter intuitive to want to lose weight but accept a sluggish metabolism.
There are also the factors of providing your body and brain with fuel. Remember how we are told to always eat in the morning before an exam in school when we were younger...it's not a cliche. It's real ****.
Eating later in the day also opens you up to the risk of gorging on foods later.
If you are hungry - you may want to consider changing what you are eating and how often you are eating. Start with lots of protein, at each meal. Protein is your #1 priority. Veggies are #2. Fruit is dessert or #3. If eaten as a snack, make sure you eat some protein first (nuts, protein shakes, meat, whatever.)
Meet with a nutritionist and go over your options. You CAN do this. It's a lifestyle change. For anyone who tells you to "go with what you know" or "do what feels right" they want you to succeed, but they are NOT providing you with the correct information.
Not true. There is no need to "jump start" your metabolism.0 -
Eat when hungry. Timing of meals doesn't matter as long as you are meeting your nutrional goals. Check out all the people who are successful in their journey and do intermittent fasting.
As long as waiting so long to have your first meal of the day doesn't make you binge or turn to less healthy options than go with it if it's working for you.0 -
YES, YOU ARE DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD.
We have all heard the line "breakfast is the most important meal of the day." Why is this? Well, your body is literally fasting overnight. You must break that fast in order to JUMPSTART your METABOLISM. While we sleep, our metabolism slows down to a crawl...if you do not jumpstart it with food within 30 minutes of rising, it will continue to crawl. It's very counter intuitive to want to lose weight but accept a sluggish metabolism.
There are also the factors of providing your body and brain with fuel. Remember how we are told to always eat in the morning before an exam in school when we were younger...it's not a cliche. It's real ****.
Eating later in the day also opens you up to the risk of gorging on foods later.
If you are hungry - you may want to consider changing what you are eating and how often you are eating. Start with lots of protein, at each meal. Protein is your #1 priority. Veggies are #2. Fruit is dessert or #3. If eaten as a snack, make sure you eat some protein first (nuts, protein shakes, meat, whatever.)
Meet with a nutritionist and go over your options. You CAN do this. It's a lifestyle change. For anyone who tells you to "go with what you know" or "do what feels right" they want you to succeed, but they are NOT providing you with the correct information.
I'm sorry but the above is not true. Eating breakfast doesn't jumpstart your metabolism. Your metabolism is running 24 hours a day 7 days a week from birth to death. Metabolism slows when the body is consistantly provided far too little calories (for example, someone who only eats 600 calories a day for weeks and weeks).0 -
@jaybird and @nowornever - I still disagree and feel as though you misread my comment. I did not state that your metabolism stops, but that it "slows to a crawl." If there is reliable documentation out there that says otherwise, please provide sources. My information is coming from nutritionist who works in a hospital that has a high rating.
I will cite some resources. My point here, is not only is jumpstarting your metabolism in the morning (and continued throughout the day) important, but it's essential for a healthy weight loss.
What we are doing here is, hopefully, going for a change from an unhealthy lifestyle to a healthy lifestyle and the byproduct (and one of the major things we look for to prove we are doing so) is weight loss.
Yes, you can eat one meal per day at 2,000-3,000 calories and still lose weight (depending on your current weight and level of activity) but at what cost to your body? What does your insulin levels look like after that meal? How do you feel the rest of the day, both before and after?
Yes, you can eat 3 meals per day and lose weight, again, what does your insulin levels look like? Are you overeating during those meals? Are you going in for the "late night snack" later on? Are you eyeballing the clock waiting for your next meal because you aren't eating snacks?
I could go on and on, but my point is, that truly learning about how various areas help with weight loss is essential to a healthy and long-lasting lifestyle change and not just "dumping some pounds" (heh, most people gain them back when they do this.)
Metabolism, Sleep, Sunlight, Vitamin levels, Exercise, Knowledge, Motivation, Stress Levels, Breakfast and more are all vital areas that we need to look into and learn about in order to get the most out of our new lives in health.
Some sources to consider:
This article goes into a slightly different area regarding the importance of sleep on insulin levels and the metabolic system:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/489157-does-your-metabolism-slow-down-at-night/
Page 2, under the "eat often" section talks about how eating will increase your metabolism for a short time (which is what I mean by "jumpstarting" your metabolism...you can jumpstart your metabolism throughout the day, as well as in the mornings when you break - the - fast)
http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/increase-your-metabolism-start-losing-fat
This article not only talks about the various reasons TO eat breakfast but directly speaks to jumpstarting your metabolism: http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/lose-weight-eat-breakfast
Additional information on jumpstarting your metabolism: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/fact-or-fiction-breakfast-is-the-most-important-meal-of-the-day.html#b0 -
@jaybird and @nowornever - I still disagree and feel as though you misread my comment. I did not state that your metabolism stops, but that it "slows to a crawl." If there is reliable documentation out there that says otherwise, please provide sources. My information is coming from nutritionist who works in a hospital that has a high rating.
I will cite some resources. My point here, is not only is jumpstarting your metabolism in the morning (and continued throughout the day) important, but it's essential for a healthy weight loss.
What we are doing here is, hopefully, going for a change from an unhealthy lifestyle to a healthy lifestyle and the byproduct (and one of the major things we look for to prove we are doing so) is weight loss.
Yes, you can eat one meal per day at 2,000-3,000 calories and still lose weight (depending on your current weight and level of activity) but at what cost to your body? What does your insulin levels look like after that meal? How do you feel the rest of the day, both before and after?
Yes, you can eat 3 meals per day and lose weight, again, what does your insulin levels look like? Are you overeating during those meals? Are you going in for the "late night snack" later on? Are you eyeballing the clock waiting for your next meal because you aren't eating snacks?
I could go on and on, but my point is, that truly learning about how various areas help with weight loss is essential to a healthy and long-lasting lifestyle change and not just "dumping some pounds" (heh, most people gain them back when they do this.)
Metabolism, Sleep, Sunlight, Vitamin levels, Exercise, Knowledge, Motivation, Stress Levels, Breakfast and more are all vital areas that we need to look into and learn about in order to get the most out of our new lives in health.
Some sources to consider:
This article goes into a slightly different area regarding the importance of sleep on insulin levels and the metabolic system:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/489157-does-your-metabolism-slow-down-at-night/
Page 2, under the "eat often" section talks about how eating will increase your metabolism for a short time (which is what I mean by "jumpstarting" your metabolism...you can jumpstart your metabolism throughout the day, as well as in the mornings when you break - the - fast)
http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/increase-your-metabolism-start-losing-fat
This article not only talks about the various reasons TO eat breakfast but directly speaks to jumpstarting your metabolism: http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/lose-weight-eat-breakfast
Additional information on jumpstarting your metabolism: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/fact-or-fiction-breakfast-is-the-most-important-meal-of-the-day.html#b
Lol you ask for reliable sources and post livestrong, webmd and fitday as sources.0 -
I hate breakfast. I hate breakfast foods. I hate mornings. I hate getting out of bed. However, I do force myself to eat a little something-something before I go to work because if I don't, I make REALLY unfortunate vending machine decisions that add up to a whole day's worth of calories. Also, I turn into a MAJOR crabby appleton before lunchtime and I make my morning students absolutely miserable.0
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@jaybird and @nowornever - I still disagree and feel as though you misread my comment. I did not state that your metabolism stops, but that it "slows to a crawl." If there is reliable documentation out there that says otherwise, please provide sources. My information is coming from nutritionist who works in a hospital that has a high rating.
Please read the attached links inside the post I am sharing. I wrote the post but it's referenced to sources outside of MFP and it will thoroughly explain Diet Induced Thermogenesis and why your post, and your nutritionist, are incorrect.
www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/529002-a-compliation-on-meal-frequency
Additionally:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2405717
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/108372920 -
There are "articles" that state it, but actual studies have shown that it's not any more beneficial than any other meal throughout the day.There are thousands of studies that say you should eat breakfast, but I agree with the other posters.
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For me personally, I find that if I don't eat breakfast, or I eat it too late, I'll eat more and be hungrier over the rest of the day. Eating breakfast just seems to keep my hunger levels at bay and I'm less likely to binge during the day. Poached egg on toast works for me :-)0
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@jaybird and @nowornever - I still disagree and feel as though you misread my comment. I did not state that your metabolism stops, but that it "slows to a crawl." If there is reliable documentation out there that says otherwise, please provide sources. My information is coming from nutritionist who works in a hospital that has a high rating.
Please read the attached links inside the post I am sharing. I wrote the post but it's referenced to sources outside of MFP and it will thoroughly explain Diet Induced Thermogenesis and why your post, and your nutritionist, are incorrect.
www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/529002-a-compliation-on-meal-frequency
Additionally:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2405717
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10837292
Sidesteal is correct and his links are to actual studies, not articles with no proof. One of the main point of one study is that metabolism actually speeds up after 12 hours in the fasted state. The metabolism doesn't slow until 60 hours and for many people up to 72 hours. This is all from some of the studies he has linked to.0 -
Time for a new nutritionist and new resource for validation. Look at more peer reviewed clinical studies (like those posted by Sidesteal) to verify.@jaybird and @nowornever - I still disagree and feel as though you misread my comment. I did not state that your metabolism stops, but that it "slows to a crawl." If there is reliable documentation out there that says otherwise, please provide sources. My information is coming from nutritionist who works in a hospital that has a high rating.
I will cite some resources. My point here, is not only is jumpstarting your metabolism in the morning (and continued throughout the day) important, but it's essential for a healthy weight loss.
What we are doing here is, hopefully, going for a change from an unhealthy lifestyle to a healthy lifestyle and the byproduct (and one of the major things we look for to prove we are doing so) is weight loss.
Yes, you can eat one meal per day at 2,000-3,000 calories and still lose weight (depending on your current weight and level of activity) but at what cost to your body? What does your insulin levels look like after that meal? How do you feel the rest of the day, both before and after?
Yes, you can eat 3 meals per day and lose weight, again, what does your insulin levels look like? Are you overeating during those meals? Are you going in for the "late night snack" later on? Are you eyeballing the clock waiting for your next meal because you aren't eating snacks?
I could go on and on, but my point is, that truly learning about how various areas help with weight loss is essential to a healthy and long-lasting lifestyle change and not just "dumping some pounds" (heh, most people gain them back when they do this.)
Metabolism, Sleep, Sunlight, Vitamin levels, Exercise, Knowledge, Motivation, Stress Levels, Breakfast and more are all vital areas that we need to look into and learn about in order to get the most out of our new lives in health.
Some sources to consider:
This article goes into a slightly different area regarding the importance of sleep on insulin levels and the metabolic system:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/489157-does-your-metabolism-slow-down-at-night/
Page 2, under the "eat often" section talks about how eating will increase your metabolism for a short time (which is what I mean by "jumpstarting" your metabolism...you can jumpstart your metabolism throughout the day, as well as in the mornings when you break - the - fast)
http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/increase-your-metabolism-start-losing-fat
This article not only talks about the various reasons TO eat breakfast but directly speaks to jumpstarting your metabolism: http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/lose-weight-eat-breakfast
Additional information on jumpstarting your metabolism: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/fact-or-fiction-breakfast-is-the-most-important-meal-of-the-day.html#b
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I skip breakfast every day because once I start eating I find it hard to stop. I typically eat lunch around 1:00 then try not to eat again until dinner then one light snack before bed. Am I doing more harm then good by doing this?
Nope! Do what works for your body. I have the same issue. Do you have low body fat? I read an article that stated if you have low body fat and eat breakfast that can mess with your glucose causing you to spike and want to binge. I found that was happening to me and then I would gorge. Its not when you eat but how many calories you eat anyway. I am up at 4am and by 9am I eat a granola bar then go from there. I can't make it until 1, I did try, but if it works for you then stick with it! I also eat my "Dinner" around 12pm or 3pm because I am not really hungry later at night and don't like eating too much before bed. Listen to your body and follow it and do what works for you as long as your calories are good.0 -
Can i JUMPSTART my metabolism with jumper cables? vroom vroom0
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@jaybird and @nowornever - I still disagree and feel as though you misread my comment. I did not state that your metabolism stops, but that it "slows to a crawl." If there is reliable documentation out there that says otherwise, please provide sources. My information is coming from nutritionist who works in a hospital that has a high rating.
Please read the attached links inside the post I am sharing. I wrote the post but it's referenced to sources outside of MFP and it will thoroughly explain Diet Induced Thermogenesis and why your post, and your nutritionist, are incorrect.
www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/529002-a-compliation-on-meal-frequency
Additionally:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2405717
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10837292
Sidesteal is correct and his links are to actual studies, not articles with no proof. One of the main point of one study is that metabolism actually speeds up after 12 hours in the fasted state. The metabolism doesn't slow until 60 hours and for many people up to 72 hours. This is all from some of the studies he has linked to.
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@jaybird and @nowornever - I still disagree and feel as though you misread my comment. I did not state that your metabolism stops, but that it "slows to a crawl." If there is reliable documentation out there that says otherwise, please provide sources. My information is coming from nutritionist who works in a hospital that has a high rating.
Please read the attached links inside the post I am sharing. I wrote the post but it's referenced to sources outside of MFP and it will thoroughly explain Diet Induced Thermogenesis and why your post, and your nutritionist, are incorrect.
www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/529002-a-compliation-on-meal-frequency
Additionally:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2405717
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10837292
Sidesteal is correct and his links are to actual studies, not articles with no proof. One of the main point of one study is that metabolism actually speeds up after 12 hours in the fasted state. The metabolism doesn't slow until 60 hours and for many people up to 72 hours. This is all from some of the studies he has linked to.
^^this
It takes like 60 hours... he's right.0 -
MFP is a great place to get 100 different opinions and answers to your question. If you are really serious about your health, contact a professional. Their advice will be night and day different from this thread. I'm a fitness and nutrition professional, but my prescriptions revolve around exercise and eating healthy. If you are exercising properly and care about your muscles, you would never willingly allow them to enter Cannibalism (the breakdown and use of body tissue for energy in the absence of nutrients).0
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MFP is a great place to get 100 different opinions and answers to your question. If you are really serious about your health, contact a professional. Their advice will be night and day different from this thread. I'm a fitness and nutrition professional, but my prescriptions revolve around exercise and eating healthy. If you are exercising properly and care about your muscles, you would never willingly allow them to enter Cannibalism (the breakdown and use of body tissue for energy in the absence of nutrients).
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I skip breakfast every day because once I start eating I find it hard to stop.
That was me exactly. Got up, felt fine, ate breakfast, 2 hours later I'm ravenous.
I went further than you, now I skip lunch also and don't eat until 5pm. I don't feel any hunger until at least 2pm and waiting until 5pm is usually not that difficult. Then I get to eat like a King.
Harm me? Heck no, it has done great things for me. The program I follow is called Fast-5, link in my profile.
You may have heard stories about Four Star General Stanley McCrystal. His Wikipedia page saysMcChrystal is reported to run 7 to 8 miles (11 to 13 km) daily, eat one meal per day, and sleep four hours a night
I don't pretend to be as tough General McCrystal and skipping breakfast and lunch doesn't seem to have done any harm to him.
I'm guessing that the whole "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" stuff was made up my some guy who's last name was Kelloggs.0 -
Lol you ask for reliable sources and post livestrong, webmd and fitday as sources.
Yes, because obviously, my sources may not be the most reliable, I am showing what I have read and ASKING for what other posters feel are more reliable resources. I am not saying that my sources are superior by sharing them and then asking for more info.0 -
Lol you ask for reliable sources and post livestrong, webmd and fitday as sources.
Yes, because obviously, my sources may not be the most reliable, I am showing what I have read and ASKING for reliable resources from other posters. I am not saying that my sources are superior by sharing them and then asking for more info.
Why post such silliness ("YES, YOU ARE DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD"), if you're not sure if your sources are reliable or not?0
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