Late morning hunger (more like starvation!)
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by 10:00 i'm hungry so i have a snack because i'm hungry. my snack is either yogurt, string cheese, fruit, granola bar or nuts. if i let my stomach continue to growl at me until lunchtime i would devour my lunch so fast i wouldn't even realize i ate it. if you're hungry have a snack. there's no reason to wait until "lunchtime" to eat something. those old rules are gone.0
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To carpetm - I sit at a desk all day and ALWAYS get hungry (to distraction between 10:30-11:30 a.m. I gained a lot of weight by eating the cakes etc in the employee lounge down the hall... but now I'm doing great by planning ahead. First, I plan to eat a snack at my desk every morning at this time, when I am hungry. I have snacks ready - either 100 cal worth of Kangaroo multigrain pita chips (to fulfill my crunchy-salty-carb craving) or pre-cut watermelon, blueberries, strawberries or banana (if I crave something sweet). Or I dip mini pretzels into 2 TBLS of reduced fat skippy which I keep in my desk at all times. Hope this helps.
FYI I hear you on the cakes and snacks at the office issue. I've been told I'm "too skinny" and can "afford a piece" time and time again so I started telling people I have a sugar issue and CAN'T have it. IT'S THE ONLY WAY THEY LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!!0 -
I just starting intermittent fasting because I was suffering the same thing. Didn't matter if I ate 100 or 300 calories at 7AM, by 9:30-10:30 I would be ravenous. I just started skipping breakfast because I wasn't really hungry when I woke up, and the late morning hunger went away on it's own.
I'm not sure if this would work for you (I'd recommend researching before just doing this, please please please I am not a health professional AT ALL haha), but that's what cured it for me.
I have studied nutrition a bit, and for most people, this will not work. Your body needs fuel in the morning to start the metabolism... the reason not eating cured your mid-morning hunger is because you stalled your metabolism... your body thinks you're starving and is probably storing everything as fat. You may be losing weight, but imaging how much more efficient it would be if you were eating properly
. Eating 5-6 smaller meals a day (including breakfast) will increase your metabolism, causing you to burn fat faster. Yes, you'll be hungry more often, but carry some almonds or a piece of fruit. I pre-plan and pack all my meals and take them to work with me. I also have a can of almonds in my desk if I start getting hungry... a handful will cure any hunger pains.
Where did you study nutrition?
I took classes on weight lifting, aeorobic dance, health, nutrition science, etc. in college... I have always wanted to be a nutritionist, so I took 5 or 6 (can't remember exactly) classes so I could see if I wanted to switch my major. I have done quite a bit of extensive research over the years and I have several friends who are nutritionists and personal trainers. I am by no means an expert... I was just giving some advice, which is the point of these forums, is it not? 0 -
Hi guys!
Any tips for coping with an 11:00 hunger pang while at work?? I am trying to just "deal" with the hunger sensation, but at times it's too much to bear. I've been trying to keep it down to a 100 cal protein shake between 8am-1pm, but around 11 like clockwork, I get so hungry it makes me feel light headed. I've been resorting to the pretzels in my boss's office!!
Oh and PS...water DOES NOT HELP!!!!
What's funny is that on the weekends especially when I'm not on any kind of schedule, I can go quite a while without a meal and it doesn't bother me. Who knows, maybe it's all mental and I just get bored at work too often.
This whole issue could be resolved with a new job :laugh:
Anyway, has anyone discovered the secret to this phenomenon?? All/any tips are appreciated!!
Theresa
Do you eat lunch?0 -
SO MY PROBLEM IS I WORK OVERNIGHT....IM REAL CONFUSED ON HOW TO EAT HEALTHY WHEN I MOSTLY SLEEP DURING THE DAY(EXCEPT DAYS OFF) AND WORK OERNIGHT WHAT SHOULD MY EATIN SCHEDULE BE? CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP....
Eat as often as you would eat if you worked day times. This isn't rocket science.0 -
I'm glad you answered those questions.Let me get this straight. Between 8am and 1pm, all you consume is 100 calories? Do you eat anything before 8am, or is it that you are going a full night and all morning without anything but your shake?
Edited to add: You note that without a schedule, you can go quite a while between meals. Are you intentionally fasting?
Full night into morning with just the shake. I do that b/c I'm not much of a "breakfast" person anyway. I like to save my calories for lunch and dinner, especially after a good workout.
I'm not intentionally fasting, but I guess my point is the whole thing is mental. For instance on Saturday, I worked out in the AM, cleaned the house, and went to look at a car on no more than like 300 cal until I had dinner around 5:00. I was completely fine and distracted by my activities, I didn't feel hungry (at least not that I couldn't deal with).
Bottom line = I don't want to eat out of boredom, yet I don't want to starve myself, either. Trying to keep it at 1,200 cal all day.
So if the problem isn't really hunger but boredom, then the solution is finding something to occupy your mind, yes?
If you are hungry, eat. If not, don't eat. It doesn't matter when you consume your calories. Lots of people consume their full day's calories in a few hours window. (I can't do this without getting light-headed and grumpy, but it's perfectly fine if it doesn't bother you).
Was this post really about you just wanting a different job?
If staying at your current job and just need a distraction, have you considered chewing gum? What about doing pushups at your desk? I get the whole "eating out of boredom" thing. I get up and walk around, and drink tons of water.0 -
If you're really hungry (and not just bored) eat! You only have a protein shake between 8-1? I'd be starving too!! Bring food with you to work and eat when you're hungry. I eat several small meals throughout the day--as long as you make healthy food choices you probably won't go over on calories. 0
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Maybe you need a heartier protein shake? Add some fiber to it like flax and chia seeds low cal and low fat but, will help keep you full longer. Also, maybe an apple and a piece of string cheese at 1100am so, you have something to look forward to and maybe you won't become stressed over the 1100am hunger. More fiber really does help me as I am like you I could eat all day long at work but, at home I am very satisfied with smaller meals on the weekends. A little more fiber and good fat like coconut oil will help to keep you full longer. And then eat a nice lunch. Best of luck!0
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I just starting intermittent fasting because I was suffering the same thing. Didn't matter if I ate 100 or 300 calories at 7AM, by 9:30-10:30 I would be ravenous. I just started skipping breakfast because I wasn't really hungry when I woke up, and the late morning hunger went away on it's own.
I'm not sure if this would work for you (I'd recommend researching before just doing this, please please please I am not a health professional AT ALL haha), but that's what cured it for me.
I have studied nutrition a bit, and for most people, this will not work. Your body needs fuel in the morning to start the metabolism... the reason not eating cured your mid-morning hunger is because you stalled your metabolism... your body thinks you're starving and is probably storing everything as fat. You may be losing weight, but imaging how much more efficient it would be if you were eating properly. Eating 5-6 smaller meals a day (including breakfast) will increase your metabolism, causing you to burn fat faster. Yes, you'll be hungry more often, but carry some almonds or a piece of fruit. I pre-plan and pack all my meals and take them to work with me. I also have a can of almonds in my desk if I start getting hungry... a handful will cure any hunger pains.
Where did you study nutrition?
I took classes on weight lifting, aeorobic dance, health, nutrition science, etc. in college... I have always wanted to be a nutritionist, so I took 5 or 6 (can't remember exactly) classes so I could see if I wanted to switch my major. I have done quite a bit of extensive research over the years and I have several friends who are nutritionists and personal trainers. I am by no means an expert... I was just giving some advice, which is the point of these forums, is it not?
I wish people would give no advice rather than poor advice if they have no idea what they are talking about.0 -
Something high in protein might help. Almonds or walnuts or a little peanut butter on a cracker.
Others have noted that not eating will slow down metabolism because your brain thinks you are starving and needs to preserve its energy stores. I guess that's why it's important to eat small meals (eg., snacks) throughout the day. Something to do with leptin I think.0 -
When I am that hungry I eat. I eat a granola bar so I can last an extra 2 hours. Nothing wrong with eating pretzels either. Just adjust your food later to compensate or go for a 15 min fast walk to burn it off so you even out. Either way listen to your body and do what works for you not someone else. Obviously waiting to eat is not working so add a snack in and adjust. Me I usually don't eat until 9 because if I eat at 4am when I wake up I am hungry all day. It plays with my glucose levels. Usually I have a granola bar only which gets me through until 12pm. But that works for me. What works for you?0
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Bottom line = I don't want to eat out of boredom, yet I don't want to starve myself, either. Trying to keep it at 1,200 cal all day.
1200 net or gross? Let me guess... gross.0 -
You should be eating far more than 100 calories between 8 am to 1 pm. That is the main issue. Try having a well rounded breakfast and that should help your light headed feeling as well as your hunger pangs. Most days I have some greek yogurt with fruit and nuts and I sprinkle flax seed on top. Other people enjoy eggs or hearty oatmeal as well. I keep my breakfasts between 250-300 calories but they are always filling and healthy. Hope your issue gets resolved!0
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you should have a snack around 10:30 to 11:00 before you get to the starved feeling. A snack of raw fruit prepared at home is a very low cal and healthy way to keep your body from feeling deprived and going into the phase of starvation mode where it will store all the calories to prepare for these times. Starving yourself is the worst thing you can do. If you are feeling this way you are actually hurting you diet. You can loose more easily if you consume several small meals a day or at least 3 healthy meals ( 200 to 400 cal) with at least a small healthy snack (under 120 cal) in between meals.0
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I just starting intermittent fasting because I was suffering the same thing. Didn't matter if I ate 100 or 300 calories at 7AM, by 9:30-10:30 I would be ravenous. I just started skipping breakfast because I wasn't really hungry when I woke up, and the late morning hunger went away on it's own.
I'm not sure if this would work for you (I'd recommend researching before just doing this, please please please I am not a health professional AT ALL haha), but that's what cured it for me.
I have studied nutrition a bit, and for most people, this will not work. Your body needs fuel in the morning to start the metabolism... the reason not eating cured your mid-morning hunger is because you stalled your metabolism... your body thinks you're starving and is probably storing everything as fat. You may be losing weight, but imaging how much more efficient it would be if you were eating properly. Eating 5-6 smaller meals a day (including breakfast) will increase your metabolism, causing you to burn fat faster. Yes, you'll be hungry more often, but carry some almonds or a piece of fruit. I pre-plan and pack all my meals and take them to work with me. I also have a can of almonds in my desk if I start getting hungry... a handful will cure any hunger pains.
Where did you study nutrition?
I took classes on weight lifting, aeorobic dance, health, nutrition science, etc. in college... I have always wanted to be a nutritionist, so I took 5 or 6 (can't remember exactly) classes so I could see if I wanted to switch my major. I have done quite a bit of extensive research over the years and I have several friends who are nutritionists and personal trainers. I am by no means an expert... I was just giving some advice, which is the point of these forums, is it not?
I wish people would give no advice rather than poor advice if they have no idea what they are talking about.
The reason this happens is because your levels (I am sorry but I can’t remember the verbiage, too much for my brain to hanlde) are at their highest in the morning and they get the lowest at night like 20 something in the morning at only 4 at night. So if you have low body fat and eat something early in the morning your levels spike and cause you to gorge and be hungry an hour later. I have tried strictly protein in the morning too to rule out “it’s the carbs” and it makes it worse for me. This happens again to mostly people with low body fat. I can’t find the article about it anymore… erg. This doesn't happen to the average Joe. I didn't take any classes but I researched it because this was a constant battle and if I ate too early and alot my levels would spike and then I was gorging all day. If I wait until 9 to have a bar that is low cal and not alot... my levels are not as high, it’s a light snack, and I don't gorge. Easy and simple. Maybe someone has the link to the article I was talking about on this board. But regardless of how many “classes” or “articles” anyone has taken me included, this is how my body reacts to eating in the morning and I am at around 16.4% body fat. So I skip breakfast.0 -
I recommend eating.
^ this
OR excersize more so that you can eat more if you are worried about calories.0 -
Bottom line = I don't want to eat out of boredom, yet I don't want to starve myself, either. Trying to keep it at 1,200 cal all day.
1200 net or gross? Let me guess... gross.
I'm working under that same assumption.0 -
My go to snack for situations like this is a hardboiled egg. I don't know what it is, but it fills me up instantly and I'm good to go!
I suspect it's satiation from the protein and fat (which is why a snack like this is such an obviously good idea).
As for OP, (although I'm sure at least a dozen others have said it in the three pages I haven't read yet), the solution to this problem is to eat.0 -
Let me get this straight. Between 8am and 1pm, all you consume is 100 calories? Do you eat anything before 8am, or is it that you are going a full night and all morning without anything but your shake?
Edited to add: You note that without a schedule, you can go quite a while between meals. Are you intentionally fasting?
Full night into morning with just the shake. I do that b/c I'm not much of a "breakfast" person anyway. I like to save my calories for lunch and dinner, especially after a good workout.
I'm not intentionally fasting, but I guess my point is the whole thing is mental. For instance on Saturday, I worked out in the AM, cleaned the house, and went to look at a car on no more than like 300 cal until I had dinner around 5:00. I was completely fine and distracted by my activities, I didn't feel hungry (at least not that I couldn't deal with).
Bottom line = I don't want to eat out of boredom, yet I don't want to starve myself, either. Trying to keep it at 1,200 cal all day.
Okay but you need to take a step back and look at your situation realistically. You're trying to get through (let's say) 14 hours on 100 calories. You are focusing really hard on disciplining yourself to not to want to eat, when you SHOULD be eating, and for a reason I can't really understand. For one, your diet is already very low calorie (1200). Furthermore, you're trying to pidgeonhole your body into rules for when you are allowing yourself to eat. But you're asking for advice on how to trick your body into not feeling legitimately hungry. Drugs, I guess.
Eating too little, and too infrequently, is not a healthy habit. If you don't like breakfast, then don't eat it. Eat when you're hungry. Would you rather do a 10:30am "brunch" kind of deal? Then do that. The timing of your meals is going to have no effect on your fitness goals.
Any by the way, you can't boost your metabolism or slow it down in the course of a day based on what you eat, or when you eat. But if you eat too little for too long, you can slow down your metabolic rate considerably. I suggest not using any "starvation" or "deprivation" methods. Losing weight doesn't have to mean being hungry. If it does, it's not a sustainable plan.0 -
This is also my eating schedule. I learned this fact with Tom Venuto, a professional body builder and fitness trainer. I always have more protein in my meal for breakfast as well. It helps you stay full longer and I never get hungry. I have also stayed under my calorie limit and that helps the weight fall off.
I would definitely eat breakfast though, after all you have already went at least 8-10 hrs without food or drink. Your body knows best and its telling you to eat, so do it. Good luck.My eating schedule is:
breakfast: 7:30am
snack: 10am
lunch: 12-12:30pm
snack: 2:30-3pm
dinner: 5:30-6pm
snack: 8pm
never hungry... eat small meals... keeps the metabolism going and keeps you feeling satisfied all the time.0 -
Also - From your pic, you don't have a lot of weight to lose (it's aesthetic at this point rather than for health reasons, am I correct?) yet from your ticker you still want to lose 10+ more. You and I have similar body types... I ate 2000 calories yesterday. Your picture was taken in a gym, I have to assume that you must be doing some kind of physical activity. 1200 calories might work for someone who has a lot to lose and isn't very active, or a thin model who doesn't have an ounce of muscle, but I have a strong feeling that you're fighting against yourself with the rules you've set for your body.0
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Not sure if anyone suggested it already (don't have time to read through all the posts, sorry!) but maybe you could eat lunch at 11:00 if you're that hungry?? I used to have it stuck in my head that I had to wait until 12 or 1 to eat lunch, but was STARVING from 11:00 on. (I eat breakfast around 6:30-7). About a year ago I started just eating lunch at 11 or 11:30 when I was hungry, and this has made a HUGE difference!0
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I don't eat my breakfast until 9:00. Our mornings are crazy so it's basically grab a cup of coffee and get the kids out the door. About 9:00, when the coffee's gone, I'll grab a packet of oatmeal, pour hot water over it, and let it sit a few minutes. Between working, it takes a good hour or so to eat. That keeps my tummy busy until lunch at noon.0
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I keep snacks close by otherwise when that hunger hits if I have to wait until 1 p.m. to eat I am not going to make proper choices, I am going to binge and I am going to feel awful afterwards and then think - man, if I had just gotten control of it.0
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When your body is telling you it needs more fuel, what are the reasons why you deprive it?
Could you eat a part of your lunch at 11 and the remainder at 1?0 -
THATS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR! Thanks fhsjewfro.... This is why I don't eat breakfast... this happens to me. I am bookmarking it this time so I don’t loose it!!!
Article is called "Why Does Breakfast Make Me Hungry?"
http://www.leangains.com/2012/06/why-does-breakfast-make-me-hungry.html0 -
THATS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR! Thanks fhsjewfro.... This is why I don't eat breakfast... this happens to me. I am bookmarking it this time so I don’t loose it!!!
Article is called "Why Does Breakfast Make Me Hungry?"
http://www.leangains.com/2012/06/why-does-breakfast-make-me-hungry.html
You do realize that if the OP is ravenously hungry she should prob eat, right?0 -
OP, I hope you are reading this:Okay but you need to take a step back and look at your situation realistically. You're trying to get through (let's say) 14 hours on 100 calories. You are focusing really hard on disciplining yourself to not to want to eat, when you SHOULD be eating, and for a reason I can't really understand. For one, your diet is already very low calorie (1200). Furthermore, you're trying to pidgeonhole your body into rules for when you are allowing yourself to eat. But you're asking for advice on how to trick your body into not feeling legitimately hungry. Drugs, I guess.
Eating too little, and too infrequently, is not a healthy habit. If you don't like breakfast, then don't eat it. Eat when you're hungry. Would you rather do a 10:30am "brunch" kind of deal? Then do that. The timing of your meals is going to have no effect on your fitness goals.
Any by the way, you can't boost your metabolism or slow it down in the course of a day based on what you eat, or when you eat. But if you eat too little for too long, you can slow down your metabolic rate considerably. I suggest not using any "starvation" or "deprivation" methods. Losing weight doesn't have to mean being hungry. If it does, it's not a sustainable plan.Also - From your pic, you don't have a lot of weight to lose (it's aesthetic at this point rather than for health reasons, am I correct?) yet from your ticker you still want to lose 10+ more. You and I have similar body types... I ate 2000 calories yesterday. Your picture was taken in a gym, I have to assume that you must be doing some kind of physical activity. 1200 calories might work for someone who has a lot to lose and isn't very active, or a thin model who doesn't have an ounce of muscle, but I have a strong feeling that you're fighting against yourself with the rules you've set for your body.0 -
THATS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR! Thanks fhsjewfro.... This is why I don't eat breakfast... this happens to me. I am bookmarking it this time so I don’t loose it!!!
Article is called "Why Does Breakfast Make Me Hungry?"
http://www.leangains.com/2012/06/why-does-breakfast-make-me-hungry.html
You do realize that if the OP is ravenously hungry she should prob eat, right?
Heck yah! But I get ravenously hungry if I do eat early in the morning about an hour later. She might just be the girl who needs a huge breakfast or maybe that will make it worse! Who knows. She has to find what works for her and her body and her lifestyle. As do you with yours! I tired eating later and larger later like you tend to do, thanks for writing me back by the way, however I found out I like my big meals in the 12-3pm range and I don’t like to eat as much at night. Works for me so far and I like it! 0
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