Is Sugar Toxic?
Krismarie24
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A friend recommended this video today. I thought it was interesting. Take it for what it's worth to you...
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7403942n
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7403942n
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A friend recommended this video today. I thought it was interesting. Take it for what it's worth to you...
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7403942n
toxic meaning it will kill you? Sure, if you're buried uner 2 tons of granulated sugar, it's probably toxic. Toxic if you eat it? From my own experience, no, I've eaten sugar and not died from it. Of course, it might be a slow acting toxin which takes 80-100 years to take effect and I just haven't waited long enough.....0 -
A friend recommended this video today. I thought it was interesting. Take it for what it's worth to you...
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7403942n
I assume this involves Dr LOLstig?0 -
It is for me. I suffered from bulimia for 16 years & sugar/carbs were ALWAYS by binge foods. You just don't see bulimics binging & purging on protein & vegetables! Even after being Low carb (60 net carbs or less a day) for over a year, if I eat sugar (for example, after my 1/2 marathon sat, I ate cookies & an ice cream sandwich) I felt sick & more importantly, was craving sugar (donuts) today. I feel it is very addicting, at the least, & we all know that it can cause diabetes which NO ONE wants to have.0
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i'm allergic to sugar. it makes me fat. ;D
^^my fave quote. heh. but its true. people binge on sugar/carbs because theyre comfort foods.
i now binge on salad, and its just not the same.0 -
It is for me. I suffered from bulimia for 16 years & sugar/carbs were ALWAYS by binge foods. You just don't see bulimics binging & purging on protein & vegetables! Even after being Low carb (60 net carbs or less a day) for over a year, if I eat sugar (for example, after my 1/2 marathon sat, I ate cookies & an ice cream sandwich) I felt sick & more importantly, was craving sugar (donuts) today. I feel it is very addicting, at the least, & we all know that it can cause diabetes which NO ONE wants to have.
sugar does not cause diabetes.0 -
i'm allergic to sugar. it makes me fat. ;D
^^my fave quote. heh. but its true. people binge on sugar/carbs because theyre comfort foods.
i now binge on salad, and its just not the same.
try putting chocolate syrup on the salad instead of oil and vinegar dressings....0 -
Dr Lustig compares the affects of sugar on your liver and other organs to alcohol. He says if you remove the extreme excess from your diet you can reduce or eliminate many health issues. It goes with the old saying everything in moderation. We just eat too much of it and it has been added to almost every thing you eat.0
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I smoked some sugar.... It wasn't as toxic as I had hoped!0
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It is for me. I suffered from bulimia for 16 years & sugar/carbs were ALWAYS by binge foods. You just don't see bulimics binging & purging on protein & vegetables! Even after being Low carb (60 net carbs or less a day) for over a year, if I eat sugar (for example, after my 1/2 marathon sat, I ate cookies & an ice cream sandwich) I felt sick & more importantly, was craving sugar (donuts) today. I feel it is very addicting, at the least, & we all know that it can cause diabetes which NO ONE wants to have.
Sugar does not cause diabetes.
http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/diabetes-myths/
Everything in moderation. Everything now a days causes cancer and is toxic, but I'd much rather put sugar in my body than chemical sweeteners, even if they claim they come from plants (which to me is the same thing as based on a true story)0 -
Lustig tends to completely ignore dosage and context.0
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I smoked some sugar.... It wasn't as toxic as I had hoped!
you're not supposed to smoke it. You can try snorting it but main lining is really the best bang for your buck....0 -
The only source of fuel for your brain is sugar. So, well ... you tell me.0
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The simple answer is: Yes, refined sugar is essentially toxic.
You might not want to believe it, but it's true. And the American Diabetes Association has nothing to gain from you knowing how toxic it is.
When processed sugars first started entering the European/Western diet, women herbalists (the "Old Wives" of the "tales") saw its effects and warned against it, but, as people started craving sugar, it became a huge industry, tied right in with the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. Europeans craved processed sugar like cocaine, and proto-venture capitalists traded in it like gold, and later oil or other mineral rights.
Anyway, those women were silenced (ridiculed, told their knowledge was useless because they didn't have the newly invented medical degrees that only the rich could afford and the male could attend school for), and sugar became accepted as a harmless ingredient, added to everything, no matter how sick it makes us.0 -
Ignoring the total falsity in which you claim sugar causes diabetes, I'm really curious as to how the hell you trained for a half marathon on 60g or less of carbs per day. That is insanely low carb for anybody, let alone somebody who's running upwards of (I'm assuming) 30 miles a week. I was tired as hell when I got less than, like, 250 when I was doing peak mileage.It is for me. I suffered from bulimia for 16 years & sugar/carbs were ALWAYS by binge foods. You just don't see bulimics binging & purging on protein & vegetables! Even after being Low carb (60 net carbs or less a day) for over a year, if I eat sugar (for example, after my 1/2 marathon sat, I ate cookies & an ice cream sandwich) I felt sick & more importantly, was craving sugar (donuts) today. I feel it is very addicting, at the least, & we all know that it can cause diabetes which NO ONE wants to have.
Actually, since you're eating such a low carb diet and running a great volume, I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that the reason you were craving sugar is because your body requires glucose and you're not giving it enough carbs to break down into glucose.
Additionally, and this is just nitpicking, but bulimia, or any other binge eating disorder, doesn't have limitations on what constitutes a binge. There are people who binge on proteins and vegetables. Just because you binged on sugar doesn't mean everybody else does.0 -
The simple answer is: Yes, refined sugar is essentially toxic.
You might not want to believe it, but it's true. And the American Diabetes Association has nothing to gain from you knowing how toxic it is.
When processed sugars first started entering the European/Western diet, women herbalists (the "Old Wives" of the "tales") saw its effects and warned against it, but, as people started craving sugar, it became a huge industry, tied right in with the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. Europeans craved processed sugar like cocaine, and proto-venture capitalists traded in it like gold, and later oil or other mineral rights.
Anyway, those women were silenced (ridiculed, told their knowledge was useless because they didn't have the newly invented medical degrees that only the rich could afford and the male could attend school for), and sugar became accepted as a harmless ingredient, added to everything, no matter how sick it makes us.
10/10 for nonsense0 -
The only source of fuel for your brain is sugar. So, well ... you tell me.
The only source of fuel for your brain is glucose. Which it can make from any available carbohydrates in your food, or from fat ("ketosis"). Added sugar is absolutely unnecessary, medically, if that's what you're trying to say.0 -
It wasn't called Sugar Diabetes for nothing...0
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10/10 for nonsense
Good luck proving that.0 -
Moderation is the key! Even things that are good for you can cause harm if you injest too much of the stuff. For example, we all know how good water is for you and I read somewhere that you can drink too much of the stuff.0
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10/10 for nonsense
Good luck proving that.
You made the claim, the burden of proof is on you. First you should probably start with metabolically how do refined sugars differ from their naturally occurring counterparts.0 -
Lusting tends to completely increase dosage and content.
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It wasn't called Sugar Diabetes for nothing...
it was called that because the doctors at that time didn't understand the cause of diabetes. They called it that because people had a high blood sugar count, not because they ate too much sugar. But, hey, don't ever let scientific stuff get in the way of good posts on social media sites.0 -
Moderation is the key! Even things that are good for you can cause harm if you injest too much of the stuff. For example, we all know how good water is for you and I read somewhere that you can drink too much of the stuff.
With something that is good for you, moderation is the key. With smoking, you wouldn't say "moderation is the key", right? You'd say - better to stop using it, or cut way back if you are too addicted to stop altogether.
Our bodies need water. Yes, you can drown. But you can't stop drinking water, and you shouldn't try. We all need a balance of nutrients in our systems. But added, processed sugar isn't a requirement at all, and has been proven to be harmful - it's not a quack theory.0 -
The simple answer is: Yes, refined sugar is essentially toxic.
You might not want to believe it, but it's true. And the American Diabetes Association has nothing to gain from you knowing how toxic it is.
When processed sugars first started entering the European/Western diet, women herbalists (the "Old Wives" of the "tales") saw its effects and warned against it, but, as people started craving sugar, it became a huge industry, tied right in with the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. Europeans craved processed sugar like cocaine, and proto-venture capitalists traded in it like gold, and later oil or other mineral rights.
Anyway, those women were silenced (ridiculed, told their knowledge was useless because they didn't have the newly invented medical degrees that only the rich could afford and the male could attend school for), and sugar became accepted as a harmless ingredient, added to everything, no matter how sick it makes us.
when you use the word "toxic" what exactly do you mean by it? The traditional dictionary definition says toxic=poison. I eat sugar all the time. I'm still not dead. So, as I posted earlier, is it that sugar is a really really really slow poison that takes 80-100 years to take effect? Good chances I'll die from other causes before the slow acting sugar poison kills me......0 -
Moderation is the key! Even things that are good for you can cause harm if you injest too much of the stuff. For example, we all know how good water is for you and I read somewhere that you can drink too much of the stuff.
With something that is good for you, moderation is the key. With smoking, you wouldn't say "moderation is the key", right? You'd say - better to stop using it, or cut way back if you are too addicted to stop altogether.
Our bodies need water. Yes, you can drown. But you can't stop drinking water, and you shouldn't try. We all need a balance of nutrients in our systems. But added, processed sugar isn't a requirement at all, and has been proven to be harmful - it's not a quack theory.
In what dosages? Classic fear mongering nonsense, no mention of any context or dosage0 -
Moderation is the key! Even things that are good for you can cause harm if you injest too much of the stuff. For example, we all know how good water is for you and I read somewhere that you can drink too much of the stuff.
With something that is good for you, moderation is the key. With smoking, you wouldn't say "moderation is the key", right? You'd say - better to stop using it, or cut way back if you are too addicted to stop altogether.
Our bodies need water. Yes, you can drown. But you can't stop drinking water, and you shouldn't try. We all need a balance of nutrients in our systems. But added, processed sugar isn't a requirement at all, and has been proven to be harmful - it's not a quack theory.
It's a quack theory until you provide dosages at which any harmful effects are seen. In a non sedentary population and in a hypocaloric diet it's not really an issue.0 -
Moderation is the key! Even things that are good for you can cause harm if you injest too much of the stuff. For example, we all know how good water is for you and I read somewhere that you can drink too much of the stuff.
With something that is good for you, moderation is the key. With smoking, you wouldn't say "moderation is the key", right? You'd say - better to stop using it, or cut way back if you are too addicted to stop altogether.
Our bodies need water. Yes, you can drown. But you can't stop drinking water, and you shouldn't try. We all need a balance of nutrients in our systems. But added, processed sugar isn't a requirement at all, and has been proven to be harmful - it's not a quack theory.
In what dosages? Classic fear mongering nonsense, no mention of any context or dosage
^ Exactly this.
Blanket statement is blanket until you provide dosage and context.0 -
It wasn't called Sugar Diabetes for nothing...
it was called that because the doctors at that time didn't understand the cause of diabetes. They called it that because people had a high blood sugar count, not because they ate too much sugar. But, hey, don't ever let scientific stuff get in the way of good posts on social media sites.
and when you eliminate sugars (and crappy carbs) from your diet, your chance of getting diabetes is less.
hell, people with diabetes that eat a diet lower in carbs can get off their diabetes meds.0 -
Upon doing a Google search, the only source of claims of the toxicity of sugar is Dr. Robert Lustig. Every single article that mentions sugar as being toxic or poisonous links back to him. Generally, when information is coming from one source, it is not reliable. There were no direct studies about fructose as a whole being toxic, but there was a mention of research from University of California Davis which is suggesting that excess consumption of high fructose corn syrup could increase your cholesterol, which can then increase risk for heart disease.
A Google Scholar search turned up absolutely nothing. Not a single article. Unless, of course, you're concerned about a type of sugar that is toxic to honey bees.
In short, no. Sugar is not toxic, unless you are consuming excessive amounts of HFCS, and even then, it is only one study from one university which suggests this.0
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