Question on the Strong Lifts

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  • WestCoastPhoenix
    WestCoastPhoenix Posts: 802 Member
    Every Body is different AND changes over time. My schedule only permits weights on Wed. Sat. & Sun. The workout is different every day, but I do at least half an hour of rigorous cardio 6 times a week. I have been "at this" with many different variations since my early twenties and I am now going to be 56 in a few weeks. I recently decided to start going heavy again and I have been increasing the weights EVERY single work-out, and am able to do much more NOW than I was capable of thirty years ago. The point is: over a period of time, you get to know how your body reacts. You are your own best advisor.

    Fact is, you should not be lifting 2 days in a row unless you do heavy isolation lifts(versus compound lifts), which are sort of a fail in themselves...but I digress.
  • sjohnny
    sjohnny Posts: 56,142 Member
    Ok, I think I've got it.

    A Petrarchan sonnet includes an octave (eight lines) followed by a sestet (six lines). The rhyme scheme of the octave is typically abbaabba. The sestet has its own rhyme scheme, and there are several acceptable patterns (e.g.cdcdcd, cdecde,).

    The Shakespearean sonnet is composed of four quatrains (of four lines each) and a concluding couplet (two lines). The rhyme scheme is as follows: abab cdcd efef gg.

    We're gonna need more workouts.

    I just spent the last three hours scouring the Stronglifts website for the c, d, e, f, and g days.
  • wellbert
    wellbert Posts: 3,924 Member
    Every Body is different AND changes over time. My schedule only permits weights on Wed. Sat. & Sun. The workout is different every day, but I do at least half an hour of rigorous cardio 6 times a week. I have been "at this" with many different variations since my early twenties and I am now going to be 56 in a few weeks. I recently decided to start going heavy again and I have been increasing the weights EVERY single work-out, and am able to do much more NOW than I was capable of thirty years ago. The point is: over a period of time, you get to know how your body reacts. You are your own best advisor.

    Fact is, you should not be lifting 2 days in a row unless you do heavy isolation lifts(versus compound lifts), which are sort of a fail in themselves...but I digress.

    Lots of people lift 6-7 days a week.

    They are experienced lifters, though.
  • WestCoastPhoenix
    WestCoastPhoenix Posts: 802 Member
    Every Body is different AND changes over time. My schedule only permits weights on Wed. Sat. & Sun. The workout is different every day, but I do at least half an hour of rigorous cardio 6 times a week. I have been "at this" with many different variations since my early twenties and I am now going to be 56 in a few weeks. I recently decided to start going heavy again and I have been increasing the weights EVERY single work-out, and am able to do much more NOW than I was capable of thirty years ago. The point is: over a period of time, you get to know how your body reacts. You are your own best advisor.

    Fact is, you should not be lifting 2 days in a row unless you do heavy isolation lifts(versus compound lifts), which are sort of a fail in themselves...but I digress.

    Lots of people lift 6-7 days a week.

    They are experienced lifters, though.

    Exactly...people doing StrongLifts, by definition, are not experienced lifters...it is a beginning program.
  • It's simple. Here is what your week could look like:


    Week 1

    Mon - Workout A
    Tues - Rest
    Wed - Workout B
    Thurs - Rest
    Fri - Workout A
    Sat - Rest
    Sun - Rest

    Week 2

    Mon - Workout B
    Tues - Rest
    Wed - Workout A
    Thurs - Rest
    Fri - Workout B
    Sat - Rest
    Sun - Rest

    Week 3 would look like week 1. Week 4 would look like week 2, etc.

    ^^This^^ is what I do.

    Yes, you can start on Sunday instead of Monday if you want, and alternate Mon-Wed-Fri with Sun-Tues-Thur and then Sat-Mon-Wed, etc.; but I prefer just taking the weekends off as recover days and then hitting hard again on Monday morning. Plus, Tuesday mornings are trash days, which is at least a half-hour long pain in the *kitten*, and if I can not workout on Tuesday, that's my preference.

    Adequate recovery is critical to making consistent progress and not getting hurt.
  • Ok....I hear what everyone is saying...

    But let me ask you all this...

    If you are working out 3 days a week..

    Are you doing

    A
    B
    A

    Then

    B
    A
    B

    or
    just going

    A
    B
    A

    A
    B
    A

    A
    B
    A

    ?????

    when ever you do your workouts it is A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B

    And this ^^ is really funny.
  • Ok, I think I've got it.

    A Petrarchan sonnet includes an octave (eight lines) followed by a sestet (six lines). The rhyme scheme of the octave is typically abbaabba. The sestet has its own rhyme scheme, and there are several acceptable patterns (e.g.cdcdcd, cdecde,).

    The Shakespearean sonnet is composed of four quatrains (of four lines each) and a concluding couplet (two lines). The rhyme scheme is as follows: abab cdcd efef gg.

    It all makes sense now! Thank you.

    cdcdcd is tiresome... I prefer cdecde --- breaks it up, especially after all that abbaabba, Fernando...

    Agree
  • MrDude_1
    MrDude_1 Posts: 2,510 Member
    sometimes... when no ones looking, i think theres a Workout C.
  • wellbert
    wellbert Posts: 3,924 Member
    you seem like someone that needs a lot of handholding . You should definitely download Medhi's spreadsheet.
  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
    sometimes... when no ones looking, i think theres a Workout C.

    I do that one at home in the bedroom though.
  • shmiracles
    shmiracles Posts: 105 Member
    funniest thread on MFP all week.

    i actually tearedup i laughed so hard.

    rulez.
  • Gilbrod
    Gilbrod Posts: 1,216 Member
    I thought it was UP UP DOWN DOWN LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT ABAB START.

    ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A B A START?

    Yes. You are right. -1 for me :cry:
  • hypotrochoid
    hypotrochoid Posts: 842 Member
    I thought it was UP UP DOWN DOWN LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT ABAB START.

    ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A B A START?

    Yes. You are right. -1 for me :cry:

    No... up up down down left right left right b a start.

    corrected because I typed too fast.
  • EyeLikeTacos
    EyeLikeTacos Posts: 324 Member
    you seem like someone that needs a lot of handholding . You should definitely download Medhi's spreadsheet.

    I have...lol

    BTW I can't do 5x5....The Spreadhseet says I am too strong for it...It recommends the 3x5 for me
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    Every Body is different AND changes over time. My schedule only permits weights on Wed. Sat. & Sun. The workout is different every day, but I do at least half an hour of rigorous cardio 6 times a week. I have been "at this" with many different variations since my early twenties and I am now going to be 56 in a few weeks. I recently decided to start going heavy again and I have been increasing the weights EVERY single work-out, and am able to do much more NOW than I was capable of thirty years ago. The point is: over a period of time, you get to know how your body reacts. You are your own best advisor.

    Fact is, you should not be lifting 2 days in a row unless you do heavy isolation lifts(versus compound lifts), which are sort of a fail in themselves...but I digress.

    Lots of people lift 6-7 days a week.

    They are experienced lifters, though.

    Those people are usually doing spit routines and doing isolation work and not big compound lifts. Big compound lifts have an impact on CNS that requires rest in between for both muscular and CNS recovery. OP, you are overthinking it bet you have a sense of humor about that and that is good because some people had some real fun with you! I loved the Shakespeare sonnet one!! LOl
  • wellbert
    wellbert Posts: 3,924 Member
    you seem like someone that needs a lot of handholding . You should definitely download Medhi's spreadsheet.

    I have...lol

    BTW I can't do 5x5....The Spreadhseet says I am too strong for it...It recommends the 3x5 for me

    The spreadsheet lays it all out on the Program tab - including what days to do what.

    What are you lifting?
  • RyanWilson1993
    RyanWilson1993 Posts: 409 Member
    I've fallen in love with working out on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday and getting Wednesday and the weekends off
  • EyeLikeTacos
    EyeLikeTacos Posts: 324 Member
    you seem like someone that needs a lot of handholding . You should definitely download Medhi's spreadsheet.

    I have...lol

    BTW I can't do 5x5....The Spreadhseet says I am too strong for it...It recommends the 3x5 for me

    The spreadsheet lays it all out on the Program tab - including what days to do what.

    What are you lifting?

    On that spreadsheet it asks you to type in your max...and I typed in my max bench and it said I was too strong for the 5x5...It gets confusing because then you have to go to page 48 of the report...and read all the various ways to do the 3x5 and the deloads and stuff...
  • EyeLikeTacos
    EyeLikeTacos Posts: 324 Member
    Every Body is different AND changes over time. My schedule only permits weights on Wed. Sat. & Sun. The workout is different every day, but I do at least half an hour of rigorous cardio 6 times a week. I have been "at this" with many different variations since my early twenties and I am now going to be 56 in a few weeks. I recently decided to start going heavy again and I have been increasing the weights EVERY single work-out, and am able to do much more NOW than I was capable of thirty years ago. The point is: over a period of time, you get to know how your body reacts. You are your own best advisor.

    Fact is, you should not be lifting 2 days in a row unless you do heavy isolation lifts(versus compound lifts), which are sort of a fail in themselves...but I digress.

    Lots of people lift 6-7 days a week.

    They are experienced lifters, though.

    Those people are usually doing spit routines and doing isolation work and not big compound lifts. Big compound lifts have an impact on CNS that requires rest in between for both muscular and CNS recovery. OP, you are overthinking it bet you have a sense of humor about that and that is good because some people had some real fun with you! I loved the Shakespeare sonnet one!! LOl

    YEAH... I know how to laugh at myself...I know how corny I can be.... :laugh:
  • EyeLikeTacos
    EyeLikeTacos Posts: 324 Member
    I've fallen in love with working out on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday and getting Wednesday and the weekends off

    I am doing

    Upper A
    Lower A
    light Cardio
    Upper B
    Lower B
    Heavy Cardio
    Then repeat...

    My cardio days are like my days off..but once a month a take a full day off to do nothing...and every three months I take a week off
  • wellbert
    wellbert Posts: 3,924 Member
    you seem like someone that needs a lot of handholding . You should definitely download Medhi's spreadsheet.

    I have...lol

    BTW I can't do 5x5....The Spreadhseet says I am too strong for it...It recommends the 3x5 for me


    The spreadsheet lays it all out on the Program tab - including what days to do what.

    What are you lifting?

    On that spreadsheet it asks you to type in your max...and I typed in my max bench and it said I was too strong for the 5x5...It gets confusing because then you have to go to page 48 of the report...and read all the various ways to do the 3x5 and the deloads and stuff...


    Okay. how much do you bench, squat, deadlift?

    You might be better off with Wendler 5/3/1 if you are moving a LOT of weight. But I am not about to try and explain how that one works, hehe.
  • Mon - Workout A
    Wed - Workout B
    Fri - Workout A

    Then next week

    Mon - Workout B
    Wed - Workout A
    Fri - Workout B

    correct. should be xAxBxAxxBxAxBx in a given 14 day period starting with a sunday. same thing as you've said above, just illustrated a different way.
  • EyeLikeTacos
    EyeLikeTacos Posts: 324 Member
    you seem like someone that needs a lot of handholding . You should definitely download Medhi's spreadsheet.

    I have...lol

    BTW I can't do 5x5....The Spreadhseet says I am too strong for it...It recommends the 3x5 for me


    The spreadsheet lays it all out on the Program tab - including what days to do what.

    What are you lifting?

    On that spreadsheet it asks you to type in your max...and I typed in my max bench and it said I was too strong for the 5x5...It gets confusing because then you have to go to page 48 of the report...and read all the various ways to do the 3x5 and the deloads and stuff...


    Okay. how much do you bench, squat, deadlift?

    You might be better off with Wendler 5/3/1 if you are moving a LOT of weight. But I am not about to try and explain how that one works, hehe.

    I don't know my 1 RM on bench ...I haven't done that in years...

    right now I do
    155 x 3
    185 x 4
    215 x 5
    225 x 3
    175 x 8+

    My squats are
    135 x 15
    165 x 12
    175 x 10
    185 x 8
    165 x 8+

    I have been having slight issues with my left knee...it feels like it's going to shoot out of my leg...I can't explain it..so I have been afraid to go over 185. I had a trainer at Gold's check my form...he said it looks good...

    My deadlifts are
    115 x 15
    135 x 15
    135 x 15
    135 x 15
    135 x 15

    The reason I haven't pushed myself on Deadlifts..is because I just started doing them a month ago...and I wanted to keep the weight low and the reps high to get the form down...But I feel I am ready to do that 5x5 I hear people talk about.

    Edit to add I weigh 160 lbs
  • 3laine75
    3laine75 Posts: 3,069 Member
    The first one, so you get proper recovery :)
  • wellbert
    wellbert Posts: 3,924 Member
    In your case, I'd suggest 3x5 for your bench,
    5x5 for everything else.

    Your deadlifts should be your highest weight, then squats, then bench, then rows, then overhead press.


    Post a video of your squats. Sounds like either a foot position problem, or knees are coming in.
    I wouldn't trust any of the trainers at my Gold's gym-- they have people doing half squats.

    but do yourself a favor and go to youtube and watch 'so you think you can squat'