Deprive yourself..it's the best way

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  • NWCountryGal
    NWCountryGal Posts: 1,992 Member
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    I hear you, I don't buy those treats, I admit, I eat goodies at other peeps houses, Good thing they all live far enough away I can't just run over there, LOL!!
    For the most part i agree, its okay to have little treats once in awhile. However, not everyone has that will power yet and its better if they deprive themselves from the food. Im doing great but i still cant eat cool ranch doritos. I would eat the whole bag. Maybe one day.
  • Paltee
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    There is no point in depriving yourself because if you do for a lengthy period of time, it will eventually end in binge of some sort. Keep it all in your daily calorie count and if a special occasion comes along, try to do more cardio exercise that day and the following day so as not to gain. It's a matter of adopting a cleaner way of eating and being careful. I have just started the marathon again, some day I'll be a winner like I have been many times before but it's a matter of making the eating style permanent. Paltee
  • NWCountryGal
    NWCountryGal Posts: 1,992 Member
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    This is my way, baby steps:) Glad we are both here:) denise

    Yes, this. To say that when you lose 50 lbs you're going to celebrate by going out to eat, you've kind of missed the point. Also, try to get out of the habit of using food to "make it all better" if you do that. Awww, you have to work 12 hours today? You DESERVE that quatro frappo mega frozen latte with sprinkles and extra whip! Awww, you had a bad day? You need cheesecake! Awww, you lost your baseball game? Let's go get pizza! Awww, your loser boyfriend ditched you? You need to sit on the couch with three pints of Ben & Jerry's and a spoon and watch Toddlers and Tiaras! Yeah, not so much.
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    I agree with this but was laughing when I read "....and watch Toddlers and Tiaras"! Only been on MFP since June so I like to see what works for people . I have found for me making small gradual changes, such as drinking more water instead of eliminating certain foods right off the bat, has allowed me to keep off the few lbs. I've already lost.
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  • jessimurph
    jessimurph Posts: 50 Member
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    'good health' really isn't eating junk food when you feel it is moderate, when you gave the calories and when you want it. I'm not saying it's bad, but I wouldn't call it goid health either. It is probably better than most of us were previously doing with our diets...
  • Paltee
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    That is so true, we have a tendency to be so hard on ourself, chances are that we are going to have to be carefull regarding what we eat for the rest of our lives, so we may as well be easier on ourself and try to make wise choices and include exercise in our daily routine. Paltee
  • NWCountryGal
    NWCountryGal Posts: 1,992 Member
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    If I missed answering anyones post so far, forgive me. I guess I learned a certain etiquette on message boards and it's stuck with me. When someone replies it's just as if I am sitting at a round table discussion for me.

    So thanks everyone for your input!! I especially appreciate those that don't quite agree because I respect folks that speak their minds, plus, I am open to learning. Everything I say about fitness or nutrition has been taught to me. Much of it I have experienced now, in at least a small way. Enough to know that it's working for me in losing fat, gaining muscle and feeling a lot younger(did I mention I actually feel younger?:laugh: Now that's a bonus!:drinker: :drinker:

    denise
  • Music4Hym777
    Music4Hym777 Posts: 71 Member
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    TRIGGER WARNING

    I see people so happy they only ate 600 calories and didn't have a cookie, glass of wine, beer or a piece of Wedding cake. I have eatin not only more nutritious foods since I've found MFP but I also have not deprived myself of something yummy and not within the realm of "healthy nutrition", yes, the dreaded "empty" calories. I am still here and still losing weight and gaining muscle.
    The mind-set is alive and well "don't eat anything and you won't be fat anymore".

    I'm not here to start a debate. I simply want to explain things from the other side of the coin. For the past few weeks, I've been eating 250-800 cals a day (with the exception of one binge day that was 1,100). Am I happy when I stay under my goal? yes, because if not I beat myself up over it badly. It's a struggle every day for me to eat something because I'm overwhelmed by feelings of guilt and embarrassment for letting myself down (eating, or "messing up" my progress). I know it's not healthy. I'm trying to get better. It's hard.
    Every time I look at a food label, this is what I see:
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    and then I get disgusted and lose my appetite. This is something that goes through my head before every time I eat:
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    I don't like being this way; it's scary and I don't feel like I can control it. But like I said, I'm trying to get better. I just wanted you to understand my point of view. Eating disorders are nothing to be proud of. Sorry if I offended anyone, as it was not my intention.

    Thank you for sharing your story. I do hope that you are getting help for your eating disorder. It is a scary road and I understand exactly how you feel. I think that this thread is trying to in some subtle ways combat eating disorders as they are a dangerous road. When you do eat to little you have a lot of side effects and it is scary. I am glad that it is scary for you and not victorious feeling.
  • KrazyAsianNic
    KrazyAsianNic Posts: 1,227 Member
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    I agree that deprivation is not the answer, and definitely not a lifestyle change... unless you truly don't want to ever eat that stuff again.
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
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    I agree that deprivation is not the answer, and definitely not a lifestyle change... unless you truly don't want to ever eat that stuff again.

    Why? Why is it all or nothing? I choose to deprive myself of what I want most of the time for something I want more--better health. I do have junk food sometimes, but yes, I deprive myself of it most of the time. It's a much healthier lifestyle for me than fitting it in whenever I want it.

    I do consider the victory turning down the cookie and making a healthier for me choice.
  • hotch2014
    hotch2014 Posts: 13 Member
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    I think several people who utilize MFP don't quite understand the difference between eating simply to nourish and eating for enjoyment. I have been criticized for not eating the caloric goal set forth for me everyday. I do not physically nor emotionally need to consume that many caloires a day. I have a large body. MFP has set forth nutritional goals that are unneccesary to actually nourish my body, therefore I eat what is necessary and only eat out of hunger and nourishment, not enjoyment. Our bodies were not meant to be dumpsters and all food consumed should be used to power and energize us. That being said, I find no fault in the allowance of an unhealthy snack every now and again. I, on rare occasion, allow myself to have a few alcoholic beverages or a piece of pie, maybe even a scoop of ice cream, but a continual allowance is unneccesary and unhealthy. Therefore, I respectfully must disagree.
  • futurestarz
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    TRIGGER WARNING

    I see people so happy they only ate 600 calories and didn't have a cookie, glass of wine, beer or a piece of Wedding cake. I have eatin not only more nutritious foods since I've found MFP but I also have not deprived myself of something yummy and not within the realm of "healthy nutrition", yes, the dreaded "empty" calories. I am still here and still losing weight and gaining muscle.
    The mind-set is alive and well "don't eat anything and you won't be fat anymore".

    I'm not here to start a debate. I simply want to explain things from the other side of the coin. For the past few weeks, I've been eating 250-800 cals a day (with the exception of one binge day that was 1,100). Am I happy when I stay under my goal? yes, because if not I beat myself up over it badly. It's a struggle every day for me to eat something because I'm overwhelmed by feelings of guilt and embarrassment for letting myself down (eating, or "messing up" my progress). I know it's not healthy. I'm trying to get better. It's hard.
    Every time I look at a food label, this is what I see:
    tumblr_m7xv24wjkV1rap47io1_500.jpg

    and then I get disgusted and lose my appetite. This is something that goes through my head before every time I eat:
    tumblr_m7j8ucwAuL1rb33pao1_500.jpg


    I don't like being this way; it's scary and I don't feel like I can control it. But like I said, I'm trying to get better. I just wanted you to understand my point of view. Eating disorders are nothing to be proud of. Sorry if I offended anyone, as it was not my intention.

    this is really scary to me. I see myself saying things like that when I want to eat something really bad, but never when it's normal or healthy food. I am so sorry you have to go through this.I hope you are seeing a doctor or specialist about this issue.
  • teryansanders
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    I just don't get why people get on here and criticize others because they don't eat all of their daily calories, or eat back their exercise calories. Everybody is different and people do things their own way. Just because its different than how you do things doesn't make it wrong. I deprive myself of things that I know are horrible for me. Junk food, soda, etc. About 2 years ago I lost 90 pounds. Then I got pregnant had my second daughter and now I am right back to where I was before getting pregnant, because I gave up those foods and cut calories! Call it deprivation if you want to, but I couldn't be satisfied if it took me 186 days to lose 12 pounds. But if that's what works for others and they are happy then great. :smile: I cannot tell them that its wrong! Because its right for them and its working for them!! They should be proud of their accomplishment. Losing any amount of weight is not easy by any means! So who am I to come on here and tell them its wrong, just because its not the way I do it? If its working for you then keep on keeping on. :drinker:
  • pkw58
    pkw58 Posts: 2,038 Member
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    It's just turning out to be much easier for me to lose weight and eat healthy now that I refuse to think of most of the things I used to eat on a daily basis as food.

    Pastry? Nope, not food.

    Bread? Not food.

    Sugar? Not food.

    Things that are not food to me aren't tempting like they were when I thought of them as 'junk food' or 'moderation food' or 'treats'. Just so much easier to think of all that as 'not food'!


    I have to say… the main thing for me is to make every calorie a super food calorie.. and I don't eat the things you mention above anymore.. I eat oat bran (raw) but not bread. I don't eat butter, but I do eat avocados… I don't see food as a reward or a hobby or a "comfort" anymore. It's part of being healthy. I enjoy what I eat because I know it nourishes my body and tastes good.
  • NWCountryGal
    NWCountryGal Posts: 1,992 Member
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    I believe this is true many times. I just saw it happen with a friend recently. They just wouldn't listen or take my offer of sharing the dinner I had cooked or any of the meals. So I watched her eat little bits of fruit, salad, a lean cousine etc. Then it hit her and she ate 2 cups of cooked jasmine rice I'd made. It was like she was ravenous then she didn't feel good. I asked her why she did it and she said because it just tasted sooooooooooo good! I knew exactly what that is like.

    If I tell myself or anyone, I can't have something I set myself up for a fall. If I've been told I can't have something, by a doctor, that can be different but many times it works the same.
    There is no point in depriving yourself because if you do for a lengthy period of time, it will eventually end in binge of some sort. Keep it all in your daily calorie count and if a special occasion comes along, try to do more cardio exercise that day and the following day so as not to gain. It's a matter of adopting a cleaner way of eating and being careful. I have just started the marathon again, some day I'll be a winner like I have been many times before but it's a matter of making the eating style permanent. Paltee
  • NWCountryGal
    NWCountryGal Posts: 1,992 Member
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    Wait a minute Flax, she is right in what she is saying and I will defend that. Some of us have punished ourselves for years by treating our bodies badly. Getting healthy has nothing to do with deprivation. I don't think you've deprived yourself and she never said you did. She says "if you truly don't want to eat the stuff again". There is the bottom line, you are not depriving yourself because you don't care about the piece of cake or cookie. I wrote this thread on people that think they can't have it but want it and don't realize they could indulge in a piece if they wanted to. Yes, some are allergic or whatever but many people live in fear of having a treat and I do mean in moderation even.
    I agree that deprivation is not the answer, and definitely not a lifestyle change... unless you truly don't want to ever eat that stuff again.

    Why? Why is it all or nothing? I choose to deprive myself of what I want most of the time for something I want more--better health. I do have junk food sometimes, but yes, I deprive myself of it most of the time. It's a much healthier lifestyle for me than fitting it in whenever I want it.

    I do consider the victory turning down the cookie and making a healthier for me choice.
  • kimgtk01
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    I'm new on here, less than a week. I am finding that if I meet my 1200 calories/day then I am over on everything else (fat, carbs, salt, sugar etc.). How do I balance this all out, or is it most important to watch only one catagory such as calories? Thanks ahead of time for your reponse. Kim
  • rcclcruiser
    rcclcruiser Posts: 98 Member
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    I have never dieted or deprived myself because I knew it would never work. But I have lost weight eating foods I love. Cookies and ice cream have to be eaten in moderation, but thank goodness watermelon doesn't have to be eaten in moderation!
  • NWCountryGal
    NWCountryGal Posts: 1,992 Member
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    Because the number on the scale goes down doesn't mean someone is eating healthy. When I see someone bragging about their weight loss and they are eating way under a healthy caloric intake, I am not going to encourage them. To me it's like buying a smoker cigarettes because they can't afford them. I care about people or I would not say anything at all. That's the way a lot of the world is though, so what if the kid is gonna get run over by a bus, let them play in the street.

    I just can't go along with your way of looking at it. Thanks for sharing though for others that think the same way.
    I just don't get why people get on here and criticize others because they don't eat all of their daily calories, or eat back their exercise calories. Everybody is different and people do things their own way. Just because its different than how you do things doesn't make it wrong. I deprive myself of things that I know are horrible for me. Junk food, soda, etc. About 2 years ago I lost 90 pounds. Then I got pregnant had my second daughter and now I am right back to where I was before getting pregnant, because I gave up those foods and cut calories! Call it deprivation if you want to, but I couldn't be satisfied if it took me 186 days to lose 12 pounds. But if that's what works for others and they are happy then great. :smile: I cannot tell them that its wrong! Because its right for them and its working for them!! They should be proud of their accomplishment. Losing any amount of weight is not easy by any means! So who am I to come on here and tell them its wrong, just because its not the way I do it? If its working for you then keep on keeping on. :drinker:
  • NWCountryGal
    NWCountryGal Posts: 1,992 Member
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    The best way I've found is to view other folks diaries. You can view mine if you like, I think it's "public". I eat 1200 right now and if I burn off 2 to 300 I eat those, or most of, to bring it back up to 1200. By changing "what" I eat, I have realized it is way easier to get in the nutrition even at just 1200 on days I don't exercise.

    Glad you are here, denise
    I'm new on here, less than a week. I am finding that if I meet my 1200 calories/day then I am over on everything else (fat, carbs, salt, sugar etc.). How do I balance this all out, or is it most important to watch only one catagory such as calories? Thanks ahead of time for your reponse. Kim
  • NWCountryGal
    NWCountryGal Posts: 1,992 Member
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    It didn't work for me or countless friends of mine that are still out there thinking about a healthier life but scared because of all the bs they've bought into. They probably think MFP is gonna be the same. Glad you are here and thanks for sharing:) denise
    I have never dieted or deprived myself because I knew it would never work. But I have lost weight eating foods I love. Cookies and ice cream have to be eaten in moderation, but thank goodness watermelon doesn't have to be eaten in moderation!