Cardio Does Not Burn Muscle Mass

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  • ZeroWoIf
    ZeroWoIf Posts: 588 Member
    Yes I'm laughing my aZZ off.

    Bro, cardio doesn't burn muscle!

    I don't know why people would dare to argue with a guy that wears his sunglasses in the bar. Silly, silly people.

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    i have to wonder if you got my meaning

    I think his sunglasses rustled your jimmies lol.
  • Z_I_L_L_A
    Z_I_L_L_A Posts: 2,399 Member
    He should get his personal trainer and nutrition license. Rooby roooooo!
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Have to love the people who jump in without citing any sources. Especially the ones who write "f---k" and "lol" in an attempt to add legitimacy to their point of view :)

    And scooby qualifies as a legit "source"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66boOY4xXGU

    Another guy who can't seem to follow a link. Spend more time with the books, bro:

    http://www2.rsna.org/timssnet/media/pressreleases/pr_target.cfm?ID=506

    Nice press release bro, where's the study?

    Did you even look?

    http://rsna2010.rsna.org/program/event_display.cfm?em_id=9014632

    PURPOSE

    Aim of the study is the exact quantification of body composition (whole body, body fat, visceral fat and muscle volume) while a transcontinental ultramarathon race in a longitudinal follow-up setting.


    METHOD AND MATERIALS

    TransEuropeFootRace 2009.04.19-06.21 from South-Italy to North Cape (4.500 km) over 64 days (60-90 km per stage) was accompanied with a mobile MRI (Avanto 1,5T, Siemens) on a Truck-Trailer (39 tons) from stage to stage through whole Europe through 6 countries. While the race each of 21 endurance runner (19 m , 2 w) got 6 whole body MRI scan s (interval: 1000 km resp. 13 days); T1-TSE tra (echo train 7), slice 10mm, 5 slices/seq., 16 sequences, 12 sec breathhold. Postprocessing of the images was performed on a computer applying a home-written segmentation program based on Matlab (Mathworks, Inc.). The following volume parameters [l] were measured: whole body (BV), body fat (BF), visceral fat (VF), abdominal subcutaneous adipose tissue (SCAT), fat of upper resp. lower extremities (FUE, FLE), skeletal muscle upper leg and lower leg (SMV-UL, SMV-LL).


    RESULTS

    Volume changes: BV after whole race -4% (SD 2,5-5,8%), mainly in the first 900 km. BF after whole race -30% (SD 9-15%), after first 2000 km -26%. Non visceral fat after whole race -34% (SD 8-14 %). VF after whole race -19%, initial loss after 100 km -12%. SCAT after 40 stages (3000 km ) -35% (SD 8-12%), afterwards nearly stable. FUE resp FLE after whole race -22% resp. -37%. Reduction of mean FLE-volume was seen continuously stage by stage. Loss of muscle volume in the whole leg after the race 7% (SD: 4-11 %), nearly equal for SMV-UL or -LL.


    CONCLUSION

    Due to the exceptional setting of this study, unique longitudinal data regarding body muscle and body fat tissue in a multistage endurance run over 10 weeks could be generated. We found muscle mass catabolism also in the exposed muscles of the leg. This occurs in every subject. Over all nearly 34% of nonvisceral body fat has been gone after the race. But there was nearly 20% of visceral fat loss, also. Adjustment of these MRI-findings with biometrical data and laboratory will present further details regarding tissue metabolism and energy balance while running through a continent without any daily rest.


    CLINICAL RELEVANCE/APPLICATION

    New and detailed findings where generated in the field of sports medicine regarding energy and body balance in endurance running.
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    White Knight
  • Yes, it does. Although a high-protein diet and an intake of branched-chain amino acids (BCAAs) during intense aerobic exercise may be a defense against losing muscle, it is not perfect. When your heart rate is above 65% its maximum, particularly for an extended period of time, your body has to find extra fuel somewhere. These additional sources are fat deposits and muscles - which is why having protein, BCAAs, and other amino acids, such as glutamine, before, during, and after extended / intense training helps ensure minimum muscle loss.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    Cardio does not burn muscle mass...if you eat right and get some resistance training in too.
  • Z_I_L_L_A
    Z_I_L_L_A Posts: 2,399 Member
    Yes, it does. Although a high-protein diet and an intake of branched-chain amino acids (BCAAs) during intense aerobic exercise may be a defense against losing muscle, it is not perfect. When your heart rate is above 65% its maximum, particularly for an extended period of time, your body has to find extra fuel somewhere. These additional sources are fat deposits and muscles - which is why having protein, BCAAs, and other amino acids, such as glutamine, before, during, and after extended / intense training helps ensure minimum muscle loss.


    ^This
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    :laugh: :laugh:

    It's pretty hilarious to see how so many regular MFPers make assumptions and jump to conclusions. You people are a riot!


    I, for one, actually read the links provided, and it doesn't necessarily contradict anything. People are arguing simply because they are choosing to make communication a one-way only street. They just want to look at the title and not bother with the details. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    :
  • Sharyn913
    Sharyn913 Posts: 777 Member
    Yes! I haven't seen THIS thread today... I was getting concerned!
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Do heals crit?

    gotta spec for crits bro and try to up your crit chance with gears

    this must be "bro talk" :huh:

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  • Determinednoob
    Determinednoob Posts: 2,001 Member
    Do heals crit?

    gotta spec for crits bro and try to up your crit chance with gears

    this must be "bro talk" :huh:

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    It would actually be lingo used in any type of video game, usually MMOs, that has a "healer class"
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    Do heals crit?

    gotta spec for crits bro and try to up your crit chance with gears

    this must be "bro talk" :huh:

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    It would actually be lingo used in any type of video game, usually MMOs, that has a "healer class"

    Hey don't expect me to have a wide variety of knowledge and experience, that is sexist!
  • ZeroWoIf
    ZeroWoIf Posts: 588 Member
    These discussions remind me of he good ole hilly billy hick town hall meetings and not because of what the OP posted. Is because people come here to rake the guy apart, and crucify him to death. Pretty hilarious to read all these comments. This is what I call the joy and spirit of this website. Let's pee on the thread starter, lets get in line! Yes let's go guys, bring some more of this!
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    These discussions remind me of he good ole hilly billy hick town hall meetings and not because of what the OP posted. Is because people come here to rake the guy apart, and crucify him to death. Pretty hilarious to read all these comments. This is what I call the joy and spirit of this website. Let's pee on the thread starter, lets get in line! Yes let's go guys, bring some more of this!

    As a good ole hilly billy hick, I find this offensive.
  • ZeroWoIf
    ZeroWoIf Posts: 588 Member
    These discussions remind me of he good ole hilly billy hick town hall meetings and not because of what the OP posted. Is because people come here to rake the guy apart, and crucify him to death. Pretty hilarious to read all these comments. This is what I call the joy and spirit of this website. Let's pee on the thread starter, lets get in line! Yes let's go guys, bring some more of this!

    Pee? POOP OR GTFO!

    There is one exemption for this however! I was never aware that wearing sunglasses in a bar disqualifies you to give advice.

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  • ZeroWoIf
    ZeroWoIf Posts: 588 Member
    These discussions remind me of he good ole hilly billy hick town hall meetings and not because of what the OP posted. Is because people come here to rake the guy apart, and crucify him to death. Pretty hilarious to read all these comments. This is what I call the joy and spirit of this website. Let's pee on the thread starter, lets get in line! Yes let's go guys, bring some more of this!

    As a good ole hilly billy hick, I find this offensive.

    In that case I offer my apologies. To be fair, I only did mention the meetings themselves, not the hill billies.
  • These discussions remind me of he good ole hilly billy hick town hall meetings and not because of what the OP posted. Is because people come here to rake the guy apart, and crucify him to death. Pretty hilarious to read all these comments. This is what I call the joy and spirit of this website. Let's pee on the thread starter, lets get in line! Yes let's go guys, bring some more of this!

    Pee? POOP OR GTFO!

    /\ You must have a lot of class.
  • Determinednoob
    Determinednoob Posts: 2,001 Member
    These discussions remind me of he good ole hilly billy hick town hall meetings and not because of what the OP posted. Is because people come here to rake the guy apart, and crucify him to death. Pretty hilarious to read all these comments. This is what I call the joy and spirit of this website. Let's pee on the thread starter, lets get in line! Yes let's go guys, bring some more of this!

    Pee? POOP OR GTFO!

    There is one exemption for this however! I was never aware that wearing sunglasses in a bar disqualifies you to give advice.

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    That's what some dude wearing sunglasses in a bar told me
  • Do you have anything intelligent to offer the debate, or do you just like to insult people?
    Class act, buddy.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member

    It would actually be lingo used in any type of video game, usually MMOs, that has a "healer class"

    Thanks for clearing that up. I'm old school and don't stay up-to-date on all the lingo. :smile:
  • Seems to me the general problem with this thread is that it is, in fact, too general. This is definitely not a question of always or never. In most cases you can probably do cardio without burning muscle. In some cases you will burn a little muscle.

    So I think everyone should try to take this post more personally. And by that I mean, before you enter into a cardio session, and then maybe again half way through, ask yourself, what are your chances that this cardio will cause my body to dig into muscle?

    Someone who's overweight and has recently eaten a big meal, probably doesn't have to worry too much.

    Me, a female, at 90 pounds and 11% body fat in a fasted state, probably should worry a little.
  • WhoTheHellIsBen
    WhoTheHellIsBen Posts: 1,238 Member
    Recent studies have shown that middle age men who where sunglasses in a bar and have social media profiles of any caliber with Booger from Revenge as the Nerds not once but twice in their profile pictures are retarded and/or trolls


    Here is my source

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/discoweasel/1849110911/
  • Determinednoob
    Determinednoob Posts: 2,001 Member
    Recent studies have shown that middle age men who where sunglasses in a bar and have social media profiles of any caliber with Booger from Revenge as the Nerds not once but twice in their profile pictures are retarded and/or trolls


    Here is my source

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/discoweasel/1849110911/


    But bro, Booger Presley was on the main guitar thus contributing to the rockin' rhythm and high tech sound that made several coeds move their bodies down to the ground!

    Srsly though, i loled for realz
  • Troll
    Troll Posts: 922 Member
    Hhheeeeeeerrrreeee we go.
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    Hhheeeeeeerrrreeee we go.

    >Username troll
    >blonde
    >bikini
    >boobs

    Just fell in love what do?
  • < is getting a kick out of being insulted for wearing sunglasses by dudes who count calories and take vanity pictures of themselves in front of mirrors.
  • Troll
    Troll Posts: 922 Member
    Hhheeeeeeerrrreeee we go.

    >Username troll
    >blonde
    >bikini
    >boobs

    Just fell in love what do?

    :D free love!
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    < is getting a kick out of being insulted for wearing sunglasses by dudes who count calories and take vanity pictures of themselves in front of mirrors.

    < is getting a kick out of a guy trying to save face while he hides his face behind sunglasses in a bar
  • Determinednoob
    Determinednoob Posts: 2,001 Member
    < is getting a kick out of being insulted for wearing sunglasses by dudes who count calories and take vanity pictures of themselves in front of mirrors.

    If I had actually insulted you, you would know it. Not that it would be hard, but I'm not bothering. And if you notice, both of my hands are in my avi pic. Maybe dem der glasses messin up da view after all
  • Determinednoob
    Determinednoob Posts: 2,001 Member
    Hhheeeeeeerrrreeee we go.

    >Username troll
    >blonde
    >bikini
    >boobs

    Just fell in love what do?

    Go to back of line?
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