Gaining Muscle While Losing Fat VS. Cutting/Bulking Phase

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  • Eandretta96
    Eandretta96 Posts: 119
    Yeah I've seen people put on like 20 lbs in like 2 months. Kind of like the dreamer bulk haha.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    Thanks guys. I think I'll add in 2-3 days of heavy lifting to help preserve my muscle and then after I lose a bit more fat will add more lifting days and focus more on that.

    Now I just need to do it. Weights bore me to death, but I'll admit it's SO rewarding.

    Stick with this excellent plan and ignore everything else. And 3 days is fine; no need to add extra days in the future. 6 days is not 2x as good as 3 days. Do your weights, do your cardio, watch your diet. Rinse, repeat.

    If weights are boring you're doing it wrong. 100s of routines with tons of ways keep mix it up and keep it challenging and engaging.

    Ignore all the ridiculous back and forth about noob gains, cutting while bulking, etc. Ignore the forums. And whatever you do, DON'T read any of those articles. Do your weights, do your cardio, watch your diet. For what your current goals are, it works every time.
  • Determinednoob
    Determinednoob Posts: 2,001 Member
    Yeah no need to learn things and become more informed.
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    Now I just need to do it. Weights bore me to death, but I'll admit it's SO rewarding.

    That's kinda weird. Have you thought about trying higher/more difficult weights? There's no way weights should be boring, it is extremely strenuous and time flies by like crazy. If you're doing it right anyway.
  • ohohraptor
    ohohraptor Posts: 205 Member
    Now I just need to do it. Weights bore me to death, but I'll admit it's SO rewarding.

    That's kinda weird. Have you thought about trying higher/more difficult weights? There's no way weights should be boring, it is extremely strenuous and time flies by like crazy. If you're doing it right anyway.

    I think it was because when I was lifting I was doing the same exercises/machines every time and I just got bored. It was cool when I could up the weights though, but often times I would skip out early cause I'd be bored. I lifted heavy and aimed for 8-10 reps. Maybe I just need to switch it up, or maybe I just like cardio more.
  • LifeIsNotADressRehearsal
    LifeIsNotADressRehearsal Posts: 745 Member
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  • mustgetmuscles1
    mustgetmuscles1 Posts: 3,346 Member
    Go with the bulking/cutting phase as it is not realistic to expect to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time. It might be possible but not in any significant way and it would be incredibly slow. Lift the same as you always do while you cut.

    Personally I would recommend adding 20-30 minutes of cardio after your lifting session and leave days off to recover and grow. 3-4 days is plenty. You might be able to do more depending on your workout split but with an upper/lower or full body plan 3-4 days is enough.



    Believe me I wish it was possible to gain muscle while cutting. I have been in a small calorie deficit for a whole year and lifting the whole time. I have gained very little, if any, new muscle. Maybe there is something different I could have tried but like most others have said it is not a realistic approach.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    Yeah no need to learn things and become more informed.

    Informed is good. Misinformed, confused and frustrated by a bunch of scooby articles is not good.

    These forums, while full of good information and well meaning posters, often devolve into shouting matches between various factions arguing over minutiae instead of just telling the OP to get out and do. I read a lot when I started out. Generally, I found lifting was more effective than reading.
  • ohohraptor
    ohohraptor Posts: 205 Member
    Yeah no need to learn things and become more informed.

    Informed is good. Misinformed, confused and frustrated by a bunch of scooby articles is not good.

    These forums, while full of good information and well meaning posters, often devolve into shouting matches between various factions arguing over minutiae instead of just telling the OP to get out and do. I read a lot when I started out. Generally, I found lifting was more effective than reading.

    Well said. On that note, i'm off to the gym.
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    Thanks guys. I think I'll add in 2-3 days of heavy lifting to help preserve my muscle and then after I lose a bit more fat will add more lifting days and focus more on that.

    Now I just need to do it. Weights bore me to death, but I'll admit it's SO rewarding.

    Stick with this excellent plan and ignore everything else. And 3 days is fine; no need to add extra days in the future. 6 days is not 2x as good as 3 days. Do your weights, do your cardio, watch your diet. Rinse, repeat.

    If weights are boring you're doing it wrong. 100s of routines with tons of ways keep mix it up and keep it challenging and engaging.

    Ignore all the ridiculous back and forth about noob gains, cutting while bulking, etc. Ignore the forums. And whatever you do, DON'T read any of those articles. Do your weights, do your cardio, watch your diet. For what your current goals are, it works every time.

    Great advice!
  • Determinednoob
    Determinednoob Posts: 2,001 Member
    Yeah no need to learn things and become more informed.

    Informed is good. Misinformed, confused and frustrated by a bunch of scooby articles is not good.

    These forums, while full of good information and well meaning posters, often devolve into shouting matches between various factions arguing over minutiae instead of just telling the OP to get out and do. I read a lot when I started out. Generally, I found lifting was more effective than reading.

    Ah I thought you meant the ones in the link I posted. They are in fact, good information. Of course scooby is pretty hit or miss.

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