SUPPLEMENTS: WHAT DO YOU USE?

lovetobethin86

I only use a protein powder on days I don't get enough, and a multivitamin when my diet calls for it. Other than that please read this:

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/effects-of-taking-too-many-vitamins

OK I read it, doesn't have to do with me though. I dont even take my multivitamin every day, only if I think I havent gotten enough from diet that day. I'm vegan so I dont eat all this enriched fortified crap so thats also not a problem. It said nothing about supplements. Also I talked to my pharmacist before purchasing these items, made sure I didn't get monster doses and am taking less then recommended dose on certain ones. If I have a bad reaction Ill top but so far so good. Why else would people buy them and rate/ review them on bodybuilding.com if they didn't like them? Not like I just bought a bunch of stuff without research.

This articles was the best I could find in a pinch. I just remember watched a documentary about a man that took a whole hand full of highly recommended supplements (by the body building community). It turned out he was on too many supplements and it started to slowly hurt his organs; the kidneys were the first to show signs of weakness. Even his "coach" through the process said something along the lines of "dude you are taking too much." Then he was pulled off of all the supplements and his organs returned to normal health.

I wasn't trying to offend you. Only trying to give you insight.

Oh crazy! No its ok, no offence taken! Ill google it and check it out:)

lovetobethin86

My super fat burning stack

Shakeology

Raspberry Ketones

L Carnitine

Green Coffee Bean extract

African Mango Extract

Macha Green Tea

CLA

LOL dude were on almost the same stuff haha I also have matcha, dont use it alot because it is sooo strong....what do u put it in?

lovetobethin86

Thanks to the people who are replying to my actual question (what supplements do you tak, do they work, what are they for)...to the others who tell me its a waste of money etc.....reading your comments that dont answer my question is a waste of my time!

I didnt realize letting you know you could save money by not buying ineffective supplements was a waste time. But to answer your question I take whey, creatine, fish oil, glucosamine and a multi.

It isnt really I waas just saying that beause nobody knows whats effective for them until they try it. Thanks for answerin the question though:) Lots of people seem to take similar things:)

lovetobethin86

My super fat burning stack

Shakeology

Raspberry Ketones

L Carnitine

Green Coffee Bean extract

African Mango Extract

Macha Green Tea

CLA

Oh I should also ask if theres a certain time u take each supplement?

Lina4Lina

Multivitamin, glucosamine and occasionally vitamin D and B complex.

Anything Dr Oz promotes is basically crap.

I know there is some good research on CLA but if I remember right, it really only helps if you are currently gaining weight, not trying to lose it.

ars1300

Multivamin
Glucosomine
Cytosport Whey Isolate Protein- change up the protein at times, also like Syntha 6.

The L Carnatine should help with energy.

cybelenoire

Multivitamin
Calcium
Vitamin D
Cranberry supplement for urinary tract health

That's it.

Apocalypse_Meow

It's false to say that you can encourage your body to burn fat in a certain spot. Your body gets rid of fat when and where it wants to. so taking a supplement just to burn thigh fat isn't going to do a whole lot of good. Also, Dr Oz is full of absolute *kitten*

Hendrix7

I know there is some good research on CLA but if I remember right, it really only helps if you are currently gaining weight, not trying to lose it.

The research on CLA is not that great, Unless the study as paid for by the manufacturer of the products.......

When non-vested entities review CLA, the conclusions are not favorable:

Conjugated linoleic acid intake in humans: a systematic review focusing on its effect on body composition, glucose, and lipid metabolism.

Salas-Salvad? J, M?rquez-Sandoval F, Bull? M. Crit Rev Food Sci Nutr. 2006;46(6):479-88.

Studies performed on different species show that the consumption of conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) leads to a loss of fat and total body weight, reduces the plasma concentrations of total and LDL cholesterol, and has an antiinflammatory effect. This article reviews the clinical trials on human beings that evaluate how mixtures of CLA isomers administered as supplements or CLA-enriched products can affect total body weight, body composition, plasma lipid profile, glycemia, insulinemia, insulin sensitivity, lipid oxidation, and inflammation. After analyzing the few studies published to date in reduced samples of healthy humans or patients with overweight, obesity, metabolic syndrome, or diabetes, we deduce that there is not enough evidence to show that conjugated linoleic acid has an effect on weight and body composition in humans. However, some of these studies have observed that the administration of various CLA isomers has adverse effects on lipid profile (it decreases HDL cholesterol concentration and increases Lp(a) circulating levels), glucose metabolism (glycemia, insulinemia or insulin sensitivity), lipid oxidation, inflammation, or endothelial function. Therefore, long-term randomized clinical trials, controlled with placebo, need to be made in large samples of patients to evaluate the efficacy and safety of CLA isomers before its indiscriminate use in human beings can be recommended.

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The only CLA study done on resistance-trained subjects failed to show any effect:

Effects of conjugated linoleic acid supplementation during resistance training on body composition, bone density, strength, and selected hematological markers.

Kreider RB, Ferreira MP, Greenwood M, Wilson M, Almada AL. J Strength Cond Res. 2002 Aug;16(3):325-34.

Conjugated linoleic acids (CLA) are essential fatty acids that have been reported in animal studies to decrease catabolism, promote fat loss, increase bone density, enhance immunity, and serve as an antiatherogenic and anticarcinogenic agent. For this reason, CLA has been marketed as a supplement to promote weight loss and general health. CLA has also been heavily marketed to resistance-trained athletes as a supplement that may help lessen catabolism, decrease body fat, and promote greater gains in strength and muscle mass during training. Although basic research is promising, few studies have examined whether CLA supplementation during training enhances training adaptations and/or affects markers of health. This study evaluated whether CLA supplementation during resistance training affects body composition, strength, and/or general markers of catabolism and immunity. In a double-blind and randomized manner, 23 experienced, resistance-trained subjects were matched according to body mass and training volume and randomly assigned to supplement their diet with 9 g;pdd(-1) of an olive oil placebo or 6 g;pdd(-1) of CLA with 3 g;pdd(-1) of fatty acids for 28 days. Prior to and following supplementation, fasting blood samples, total body mass, and dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry (DEXA) determined body composition, and isotonic bench press and leg press 1 repetition maximums (1RMs) were determined. Results revealed that although some statistical trends were observed with moderate to large effect sizes, CLA supplementation did not significantly affect (p > 0.05) changes in total body mass, fat-free mass, fat mass, percent body fat, bone mass, strength, serum substrates, or general markers of catabolism and immunity during training. These findings indicate that CLA does not appear to possess significant ergogenic value for experienced resistance-trained athletes.

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CLA has adverse effects on markers of cardiovascular health, without significantly affecting bodycomp:

Treatment with dietary trans10cis12 conjugated linoleic acid causes isomer-specific insulin resistance in obese men with the metabolic syndrome.

Diabetes Care. 2002 Sep;25(9):1516-21. Ris?rus U, Arner P, Brismar K, Vessby B.

OBJECTIVE: Conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) is a group of dietary fatty acids with antiobesity and antidiabetic effects in some animals. The trans10cis12 (t10c12) CLA isomer seems to cause these effects, including improved insulin sensitivity. Whether such isomer-specific effects occur in humans is unknown. The aim of this study was to investigate whether t10c12 CLA or a commercial CLA mixture could improve insulin sensitivity, lipid metabolism, or body composition in obese men with signs of the metabolic syndrome. RESEARCH DESIGN AND METHODS: In a randomized, double-blind controlled trial, abdominally obese men (n = 60) were treated with 3.4 g/day CLA (isomer mixture), purified t10c12 CLA, or placebo. Euglycemic-hyperinsulinemic clamp, serum hormones, lipids, and anthropometry were assessed before and after 12 weeks of treatment. RESULTS: Baseline metabolic status was similar between groups. Unexpectedly, t10c12 CLA increased insulin resistance (19%; P < 0.01) and glycemia (4%; P < 0.001) and reduced HDL cholesterol (-4%; P < 0.01) compared with placebo, whereas body fat, sagittal abdominal diameter, and weight decreased versus baseline, but the difference was not significantly different from placebo. The CLA mixture did not change glucose metabolism, body composition, or weight compared with placebo but lowered HDL cholesterol.(-2%; P < 0.05). CONCLUSIONS: These results reveal important isomer-specific metabolic actions of CLA in abdominally obese humans. A CLA-induced insulin resistance has previously been described only in lipodystrophic mice. Considering the use of CLA-supplements among obese individuals, it is important to clarify the clinical consequences of these results, but they also provide physiological insights into the role of specific dietary fatty acids as modulators of insulin resistance in humans.

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More on CLA's adverse effects on cardiovascular health parameters, again, without improving bodycomp:

Effects of cis-9,trans-11 conjugated linoleic acid supplementation on insulin sensitivity, lipid peroxidation, and proinflammatory markers in obese men.

Am J Clin Nutr. 2004 Aug;80(2):279-83. Ris?rus U, Vessby B, Arnl?v J, Basu S.

BACKGROUND: We recently showed that trans-10,cis-12 (t10,c12) conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) causes insulin resistance in obese men. However, metabolic effects of the c9,t11 CLA isomer are still unknown in obese men. Because c9,t11 CLA is the predominant CLA isomer in foods and is included in dietary weight-loss products, it is important to conduct randomized controlled studies that use c9,t11 CLA preparations. OBJECTIVE: We investigated the effects of c9,t11 CLA supplementation on insulin sensitivity, body composition, and lipid peroxidation in a group at high risk for cardiovascular disease. DESIGN: In a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study, 25 abdominally obese men received 3 g c9,t11 CLA/d or placebo (olive oil). Before and after 3 mo of supplementation, we assessed insulin sensitivity (hyperinsulinemic euglycemic clamp), lipid metabolism, body composition, and urinary 8-iso-prostaglandin F(2alpha) (a major F(2)-isoprostane) and 15-keto-dihydro-prostaglandin F(2alpha), markers of in vivo oxidative stress and inflammation, respectively. RESULTS: All subjects completed the study. Compared with placebo, c9,t11 CLA decreased insulin sensitivity by 15% (P < 0.05) and increased 8-iso-prostaglandin F(2alpha) and 15-keto-dihydro-prostaglandin F(2alpha) excretion by 50% (P < 0.01) and 15% (P < 0.05), respectively. The decreased insulin sensitivity was independent of changes in serum lipids, glycemia, body mass index, and body fat but was abolished after adjustment for changes in 8-iso-prostaglandin F(2alpha) concentrations. There were no differences between groups in body composition. CONCLUSIONS: A CLA preparation containing the purified c9,t11 CLA isomer increased insulin resistance and lipid peroxidation compared with placebo in obese men. Because c9,t11 CLA occurs in commercial supplements as well as in the diet, the present results should be confirmed in larger studies that also include women.

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AlphamaleBAMF

Optmens Multi. Creatine, Whey Protein Isolate. Fish oil x 6 tabs. Vitamin C, Zinc, Magnesium, Iron, Potassium.

I have not felt better in my life. It is expensive, but it's still cheaper than my drug habits/smoking and anti depressants were. Much, much cheaper.

Do yourself a favor. Make sure you're getting enough EFAs and VItamin C at least. Then work on Protein and fish oil. It will make a massive difference in your life.

lovetobethin86

It's false to say that you can encourage your body to burn fat in a certain spot. Your body gets rid of fat when and where it wants to. so taking a supplement just to burn thigh fat isn't going to do a whole lot of good. Also, Dr Oz is full of absolute *kitten*

OMG People I WISH I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT DR, OZ! I saw it on the body building website then googled it and Dr. Oz popped up along with a bunch of other sites I read about these on...I only said Dr. Oz because thats the only other one I can remember the name too....**rolling eyes, shaking head*** ughh

jdixon101085

Oxy elite pro is the best thermogenic I've used. It really works despite the hot flashes

AnvilHead

My super fat burning stack

Shakeology

Raspberry Ketones

L Carnitine

Green Coffee Bean extract

African Mango Extract

Macha Green Tea

CLA

Awesome. Only thing missing is dat dere Cell Tech, bro! :bigsmile:

As for me:
-Multivitamin
-Whey protein
-Fish oil

As for Dr. Oz:

Awkward30

Multivitamin
Fish Oil
Calcium Supplement
BCAAs
CLA
Probiotic

I'm kinda playing around and seeing what I like and don't like and can or can't tell the difference if I have it. self experimentation!

Aventuria

I only take:

iodine (I don't eat fish and we have iodine deficit in our family)



Other than that I sometimes have an protein shake (organic brown rice isolate) if I didn't get enough protein that day. But I can mostly manage with a balanced diet. ;-)


Have a great day!

Fozzi43

Green tea supplement
Multivitamin
Vitamin b
Cod liver oil

babsie11

I take a probiotic one in the AM and one at night
Vitamin d 3 5000 ui in the AM
fish oil 2 caps daily
Magnesium Citrate 1 am 1 pm
and
Green coffee bean extract 400 mg with Svetol 3 times a day 1/2 hour before meals..

thats it.. !

babsie11

I love Dr. Oz he does his research as with any supplements or antibiotics or any medications what works for some will not work for others! GO OZ!

lindsayTalk

I take::

CLA - probably will cut this after bottle is empty, don't notice much of an effect

Rasberry ketones - really like these, seem to help my water bloat and energy but I don't believe in miracle pills

Fish oil - it's good, don't really have much to say but I do notice my hair is very shiny... I also give a liquid version to my pup

Take a multi, b12, e, & calcium - suffer from eczema and the e seems to help keeping it at bay, calcium for obvious reasons and I'm not big on dairy, b12 for energy, multi for whatever I missed in my diet

elite dynamtize vanilla protein powder - I enjoy this protein powder for my morning shakes, keeps me full "longer"

I just picked up the coconut oil chews from GNC, not too bad and will probably be in place for that CLA when it's empty

If you want to follow my diary you can see what I tend to eat

jaysonhijinx

Currently....!

Daily multivitamin, fish oil caps, L-carnitine, creatine, BCAA's and protein supplements.

Also recently was given a test booster from a friend to give a try so that's in there too..

troopers90

I take whey protein, I used to use a pre supp called jack3d, but now take alpha

Shrelana

I take one potassium supplement daily (3% of daily value for 2000 calorie diet), and 1/2 calcium (1 is 50% of daily value for 2000 calorie diet, and mine is 1200 to 1300).

I take the potassium because of a hereditary potassium deficiency, it seems to be working, but I'll be discussing with my Dr in January to make sure I shouldn't be taking more. The calcium is for bone health since I'm putting more of a strain on my skeletal system by working out

DannPM31

Morning I take: B-Complex, Ginseng, & Fish Oil. The first two are basically the main two things (less the caffeine I get from morning coffee) that are in energy drinks like 'Rockstar'

Plus, nothing beats the radically-neon yellow piss about half way to lunch like the B-Complex gives you!

JasonDetwiler

Just about everything youre taking was a waste of your money.

QFFT

McBully4

Just about everything youre taking was a waste of your money.

QFFT

Double QFT

I do pound fish oil by the hand full though

JasonDetwiler

Just about everything youre taking was a waste of your money.

QFFT

Double QFT

I do pound fish oil by the hand full though

I still want an answer on the Texans logo. You jumping off the wagon just for losing one game?

McBully4

I still want an answer on the Texans logo. You jumping off the wagon just for losing one game?

I bleed battle red

JasonDetwiler

I still want an answer on the Texans logo. You jumping off the wagon just for losing one game?

I bleed battle red

Ha, nice. They're my adopted team b/c of Matt.

305muscle

too many to mention lol.anyways when it comes to supplements you gotta try and see what works best for you since everyone is different bodies respond differently

whitenoise12

Anyone know what vitamin deficiency causes weak fingernails?