I find it kinda sad...
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Why I don't eat fast food:
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my husband thinks anything homemade qualifies as healthy. lol not true at all.
Oh man, if that was true, Paula Dean wouldn't be diabetic. I hate that her recipes are sooooo bad for you, because they're just sooooo good. :-\ I'm pretty sure 95% of the homemade food I make is horrible for you. I'm trying to work on that though.
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Even stuff which truly is junk food will be in my diet sometimes, if it fits my macro profile and I am already getting other nutrients, vitamins etc... from other foods.
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Doesn't matter if it's fried, baked, broiled, processed, etc. IIFYM eat and be happy!0
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I'd have to say my mom is surprisingly stubborn or really just clueless about things even though she's worked as a nurse.
A while back she said to me, fully convinced, it was better to have potato chips as a late night snack instead of nuts because the nuts would make her fat and the potato chips don't. Adding to this she has high blood pressure and this would be ANOTHER big reason snacking on dry roasted, unsalted nuts would be a lot better option for her!
Adding to that, even though she has high blood pressure and has to take meds every day, she seems to just not know how many foods contain a lot of salt.
Like olives, ANY deli meat (from which she consumed a LOT.), pre-packaged noodles (she has these 3 times a week as lunch...) cheese...
I find it fascinating she is refusing to cut down a bit. I have logged her food for a day and showed her she was consuming at least twice as much salt as the daily recommended amount and if she has high blood pressure she should be more careful, but she still piles on the deli meat or noodles at lunch and refuses to seek an alternative for the potato chips at night. I TRIED.
Oh, and my dad thinks cookies with fruit filling are healthy.0 -
Finances and good nutrition are two of the really important elements of education that are not taught at all. When schools serve bascailly fast food in their cafeterias, what does that teach kids.
Fortunately, my kids are awesome and hate the school cafeteria. I stopped allowing them to eat there when my son told me he had two pieces of pizza and a chocolate milk. I was livid. Why the F*** do they have chocolate milk as an option? Are you f***ing kidding me? In an elementary school?
Anyway, I used to give my kids the option of buying their lunch or taking it,and they always choose taking it. they say that when they buy their lunch, they feel tired afterwards. Where when they take their lunch, they have more energy. Ha, ha. my kids rock!
I had the pizza, very fine juice drinks, fries, and steak and cheese (every friday), oh and soft pretzels (this was in the late 90s). I was a normal weight my whole adolescent life. I think that's thanks to my parents never introducing me to fast food. Taking ballet classes almost everyday, actually playing outside with friends as a child, etc. We had nintendo and tv but we still played outside.
I think the cafeteria food was my fast food as a child.0 -
Well, a Filet-o-Fish IS healthy compared to a snickers bar and a coke for lunch, no?0
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Kids need saturated fat so their brains can develop. Everyone needs fat but especially kids.my friend I did daycare for told me basically to mind my own business and let her kids eat what they want and how much they want at my house. 2 of her kids, 7 and 12 year ols, were individually eating more than my husband and myself combined at each meal. Her 6 year old equaled what I ate and they would all ask for a snack within 1/2 hour from when we ate.
She thinks fat is "cute". She said not to worry about what they ate here because it was up to the parents to deal with their nutrition. They ate like 5 meals here a week, so quite a good percent of their nutrition. 2 of the kids wouldn't drink milk with meals because I refuse to give flavored milk at mealtime. Mom agreed with them so they would get the calcium, I still refused.
I know they would go home and eat a pizza or whole meal as a really late night snack. I am 100% sure that is why she now keeps them home with their older sister, because I was teaching them substitutions, labels and only making enough for each person to have 1 serving. I always limited cheese and sour cream to a teaspoon and NEVER had treats when they were here. EVER! These are kis that LOVE apples, bananas, no fat yogurt, carrots, cucumbers and plain chicken. In my mind, no way should these kids ever have started their obese patterns. Dad was on disability with the possiblity of never working again and a really good possibilty that he would die in his sleep at about 45 years old. Mom is a super unhealthy weight and promotes how sexy big is. The 12 year old weighed as much as I do last year and wears the same size jeans. She is really unhappy and has a hard time getting along with anyone. So sad.
people are often in denial.
I agree. Children should never be given low fat/fat-free foods. Sure, give them smaller portions and get them to turn off the Playstation and move a bit more but low fat & diet foods in general are not suitable for young kids.
Better still, don't allow them to become obese in the first place. I'm a parent, I choose what foods are bought and brought into the house. There is no excuse for toddlers and young kids to be obese.0 -
It's so sad. We are all SO much smarter than them. Those poor, sad people.0
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That one tablespoon of butter has less calories once it is melted down. Duh . . . .0
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I have had someone say that ice cream is good for you since it contains milk. Same person also said a Wendy's hamburger is good because you cover several food groups (meat, vegetables - lettuce and tomato, bread, dairy - cheese). sadly misinformed.
I had an ex that would vehemently argue that McDonald's Big Macs were healthy because it had all four food groups....
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To be fair to your coworker, you could do a lot worse at McDonald's than the 380 calorie Filet-o-Fish!
THIS. If I go to McDonald's I'll get one ONLY because it's less caloric and has less fat than the burgers and chicken sandwiches.
That being said, I try to stay away from them altogether.0 -
My mother in law said that her pediatrician supposedly told her that my DH was getting a balanced diet when he was a toddler and refused to eat anything but peanut butter and jelly because hey, you get fruit from the jelly, fat from the peanut butter and the bread is grains. Nothing against PB&J, but a sandwich of PB&J is not a balanced diet.
My mother thinks that hot dogs with macaroni and cheese and canned corn is a balanced meal and that a meal consisting of fresh fruit, cheese and Triscuits is not enough food. She never knew any better when I was younger and still doesn't, but she did manage to lose 70+ lbs and keep it off for over 10 years now through simply counting calories.
As for kids never having reduced fat stuff, I don't necessarily agree. My children get RF sour cream and oldest DD gets 1% milk, the same as we have. She also gets fat free yogurts and has since she was a toddler. Our children get plenty of fats (including saturated) from full fat cheese products (we've gone through almost 2 lbs in the past 2 weeks), meats, nuts and nut butters, and added oils. I think it's fine to introduce RF products as long as their diet is balanced and they are getting plenty of healthy fats.0 -
Weren't we all! MFP taught so many of us what "healthy" truly means.The majority of people have no idea how many calories they need, or how many calories are in most regular food... They r totally clueless, but then so was I until last may when I found this place!
I find it sad yet strangely amusing at the same time, when I see posts about how awful friends, family, co-workers etc. are eating when so many of us where once at that very same spot. How quickly we've forgotten that we once were ignorant in the same way.
Cheers for the poster - TavistockToad - for posting her thoughts on the matter!:drinker:0 -
I hope they asked your opinion on it. If you would have spouted off healthier foods to me without me asking your opinion I would have thrown my sandwich at you (then grabbed it and ate it within the 5 second rule).0
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My bosses at work think if it is a salad, it's healthy.
One in particular stated the other day that the pizza he was eating (and he ate the entire thing) was healthy because it had chicken on it.0 -
I agree,To be fair to your coworker, you could do a lot worse at McDonald's than the 380 calorie Filet-o-Fish!
Maybe her/his normal is a Big Mac meal so in comparison it is healthier.0 -
Why I don't eat fast food:
That is too true!0 -
Diet Soda. Eff that *kitten*.0
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I am also amazed at what I used to eat thinking it was healthy, when either it really wasnt or the portion size was wayy over what it should have been.
We have all been there, thank goodness for MFP and self research otherwise I wouldn't have known either.0 -
Another friend recently told me that their wife thought Nutella was health food as well and insisted on having it regularly.
It's CRAZY how many people think Nutella is healthy. Look at the freaking label! It's sugar with some nuts and chocolate thrown in!0 -
I attended High School in New York City. When I was in 10th grade we were told that we could only eat school lunch. By the time we made it to 11th grade we were allowed to eat out at the local restaurants, McDonalds was across the street. Man they went nuts! I couldn't afford it and they ate McDonalds daily. Now on facebook you can see that it has taken a toll on them.0
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my friend I did daycare for told me basically to mind my own business and let her kids eat what they want and how much they want at my house. 2 of her kids, 7 and 12 year ols, were individually eating more than my husband and myself combined at each meal. Her 6 year old equaled what I ate and they would all ask for a snack within 1/2 hour from when we ate.
She thinks fat is "cute". She said not to worry about what they ate here because it was up to the parents to deal with their nutrition. They ate like 5 meals here a week, so quite a good percent of their nutrition. 2 of the kids wouldn't drink milk with meals because I refuse to give flavored milk at mealtime. Mom agreed with them so they would get the calcium, I still refused.
I know they would go home and eat a pizza or whole meal as a really late night snack. I am 100% sure that is why she now keeps them home with their older sister, because I was teaching them substitutions, labels and only making enough for each person to have 1 serving. I always limited cheese and sour cream to a teaspoon and NEVER had treats when they were here. EVER! These are kis that LOVE apples, bananas, no fat yogurt, carrots, cucumbers and plain chicken. In my mind, no way should these kids ever have started their obese patterns. Dad was on disability with the possiblity of never working again and a really good possibilty that he would die in his sleep at about 45 years old. Mom is a super unhealthy weight and promotes how sexy big is. The 12 year old weighed as much as I do last year and wears the same size jeans. She is really unhappy and has a hard time getting along with anyone. So sad.
people are often in denial.
My mom has this issues with kids but as a licensed day care professional, she has standards that she has to follow and proper portion sizes and certain foods have to be served. She has to offer at least one fruit or one veggie per meal. They don't have to eat it, but if they don't at least try it, they can't have more of whatever else is being served. They also can't have more than seconds...so like if she serves pizza, they can't have more than 1/8th of the pizza...but she cuts it into 16ths and serves it that way and if they finish their food, she can give them one additional slice or more veggies or fruit or whatever.
I probably would have been similar to that thinking before learning about nutrition myself but I am determined to keep my kids away from as much junk and fast food as possible and will teach them about serving sizes and how to read nutrition labels.0 -
oh I love it when I see people make this great healthful salad, then top it with croutons, bacon and about a cup of dressing0
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I was going to lunch with my 'perpetually dieting but never loses weight friend' and she didn't want to get a turkey sandwich from the deli because she's on a diet (I'll usually get turkey, whole wheat, tomatoes, lettuce, mustard). So we went to the food court (?!?!) and I order Taco Bell off the fresco menu (while still dreaming of my delicious turkey sandwich) and she went to KFC and got fried chicken, caeser salad and garlic butter bread sticks.....and she thought this was a healthy choice!!!0
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Avoiding McDonald's completely is probably one of the most healthy things you can do! People that think they are dieting because they eat salads! Leave it to us Americans to turn a salad into junk food! Just because it has lettuce in it doesn't make it healthy people!! It is super easy to turn a salad into a 1000+ calorie entree! :noway:0
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My (ex)boyfriend thought that Jimmy John's qualified as healthy food. Like, when he went there, it was because he was being healthy. Too bad he put half a couple of mayo on it.
JJ's can be kind of healthy if you don't smother it in mayo, but he wasn't doing it right.0 -
Another friend recently told me that their wife thought Nutella was health food as well and insisted on having it regularly.
It's CRAZY how many people think Nutella is healthy. Look at the freaking label! It's sugar with some nuts and chocolate thrown in!
The commercial lauds it as a healthy way to have an energetic day. Wholesome milk, hazelnuts, cocoa.... No mention of sugar. People see the commercial but don't think to read the label. Uh... How do you think it gets sweet? Wasn't the hazelnuts. Lol
I hate the commercial. Love nutella. I can't keep it in the house.0 -
my friend I did daycare for told me basically to mind my own business and let her kids eat what they want and how much they want at my house. 2 of her kids, 7 and 12 year ols, were individually eating more than my husband and myself combined at each meal. Her 6 year old equaled what I ate and they would all ask for a snack within 1/2 hour from when we ate.
She thinks fat is "cute". She said not to worry about what they ate here because it was up to the parents to deal with their nutrition. They ate like 5 meals here a week, so quite a good percent of their nutrition. 2 of the kids wouldn't drink milk with meals because I refuse to give flavored milk at mealtime. Mom agreed with them so they would get the calcium, I still refused.
I know they would go home and eat a pizza or whole meal as a really late night snack. I am 100% sure that is why she now keeps them home with their older sister, because I was teaching them substitutions, labels and only making enough for each person to have 1 serving. I always limited cheese and sour cream to a teaspoon and NEVER had treats when they were here. EVER! These are kis that LOVE apples, bananas, no fat yogurt, carrots, cucumbers and plain chicken. In my mind, no way should these kids ever have started their obese patterns. Dad was on disability with the possiblity of never working again and a really good possibilty that he would die in his sleep at about 45 years old. Mom is a super unhealthy weight and promotes how sexy big is. The 12 year old weighed as much as I do last year and wears the same size jeans. She is really unhappy and has a hard time getting along with anyone. So sad.
people are often in denial.
wow...this is sad and quite disturbing
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Just for another perspective:
My husband worked in day care for a while. One of his students had a genetic disorder that required her to eat high-protein, high-fat (read grease) foods on a regular basis to avoid severe illness. Every day she had pizza, burgers, greasy nasty bad food.
But for her, it WAS healthy. She was wiry, tiny, energetic... but only on that diet.
It's good to help people make better choices, but sometimes we don't know what the better choice is for that person. Offer help carefully. Just because we've learned a lot about our bodies doesn't mean we understand what's going on with anyone else.0
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