I'm having a hard time with "Never again"
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Also, I have found substitutes for the things I love that aren't so good for me. I have dark chocolate and a fruit smoothie pretty much every day, I just use portion control and they're both healthy. I'm finding after all this time of eating healthy that the "bad" foods I used to love aren't all that good, anyway. Last time I had a Cinnabon will be my last, not because I "can't," but because it tasted awful and I don't want another one.0
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I NEVER say never again. I allow myself to eat the things I love in moderation. I just make sure I'm hitting my exercise/calorie goals and roughly hitting all my macros. If I told myself I'd never again have Marie Calendar's Chocolate Silk Pie, I'd probably just give up. I can still eat it, I just have to recognize the "consequences" of doing so (exercising more or dealing with going over for the day). Or just eat a small taste of it.0
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How do you all deal with the thought of never having it again? I know I could have a little in theory, but I never in my life have had a little. I don't even know what that means. They say the cravings will go away but I still have them. Help me build good habits!
I don't say never. I just reserve such things for occasions. For example, this Saturday is my grandson's birthday. I will enjoy the cake and ice cream and chips and, since he's having a football party, I'm sure there will be other high calorie munchies I do not allow myself every day.
And I think that is the key. Don't eat like that every day, or even every other day. Be good and stick to your calories most of the time. But every now and then just forget calories and eat what you want, for a meal or a day. Then don't do it again for a while.
Occasions are meant for splurging, so only splurge occasionally. That's my motto.
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I don't agree with the "never again" approach. That makes being healthy a punishment instead of a blessing. If I want a treat, I make room for it in my calories. I also eat less of it than I used to eat. If you can't trust yourself now, then avoid those foods until you've learned self-control.
^^^This ... there is no "never again" in my vocabulary. I may choose not to partake - but if I do I'll try to do so with portion control in mind. I may go over on a given day, but not EVERY day0 -
I'm in the same boat as most people here--"never again" would feel extreme and disheartening to me, too! I'm going with smaller portions and savoring. Ice cream, for example, only really tastes like the flavor for a certain number of bites; after a point, all you really register, if you're paying attention, is "sweet and cold." So last night, when the fiance and I went to Rita's, I got a kids size ice with a dollop of custard on top instead of a regular size gelati. Took in about 280 calories instead of 420, and tasted the full flavor right down to the end. An added perk was that because I was savoring my treat, it lasted just as long as fiance's regular-sized one. Spoons hit bottom at the same time, so there was no deprived moment of mine being done before his.0
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Stop thinking "never again", and start thinking "sometimes, in moderation"! No wonder so many people can't stick to it in the long run, when they consantly refuse themself everything they like. There's nothing wrong with having a treat or two every now and then.0
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one of the things i do when i see something i want but should not have, is I go looking for a way to put it on a diet to... take your chocolate cake, there are tons of not so bad recipes out there for chocolate cake and if all else fails there is " NO pudge fudge" http://www.amazon.com/No-Pudge-Brownie-Original-13-7-Ounce/dp/B000GZYAN2 cake mix which is a god send. i have fun finding or lightening ups recipes and a lot of the time i actually like the diet version as well or better than the original.0
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And now I'm kind of craving some really good (NOT BOXED! lol) mac and cheese ...0
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Please read: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/709987-how-wrong-i-was-600-days-of-mfp-lotsa-pics
There's no reason to say "never again" to a food you enjoy unless you have an allergy or intolerance to a certain food.
If I thought I could never have pizza again, I'd have quit more than 600 days ago. I have it, at least once a week, and it fits in my calories and macros when I do.0 -
I agree with pretty much every response so far! There are things I won't keep in the house because I can't keep myself away from them but there is nothing that I can't have if I really want it. We have one dinner of take-out just about every week and I have treats on almost a daily basis. Deprivation never worked for me either because as you tell me I can't have something - that's all I'll think about.
Exercise helps too as you'll earn extra calories and you're more able to "afford" those little treats.0 -
It's not about "never again", it's all about portion control. If you go a little high on calories one day because you ate something you shouldn't have, just go low the next day. It will all equal out at the end of the week. You can't eat a big plate of mac and cheese every week, but you sure can have a portion of it once and a while. Telling yourself never again will set you up for failure.0
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It also helps to remember that there are healthier alternatives that still taste just as or almost as good. Make the mac and cheese like this: http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/creamy-light-macaroni-cheese-50400000115195/ and you will not regret it! It is so much better tasting than that boxed crap! It's also 1/3 of the calories. There are healthier and lower calorie options for every single food out there. You just have to find them! It is not a matter of giving things up, just finding healthier ways to eat them.
I am an onion ring junkie. So I found the Skinny Baked Onion Ring recipe and make them 2-3 times a week!0 -
Agree with all of the above. The minute I tell myself I can't have something is when I want it so bad, nothing else will do. Then you binge. But when I know I can have anything I want in moderation, I don't get cravings.0
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yeah, never again would never work for me. your body will adjust to smaller portions and you will find that you are capable of having a 1/2 cup of macaroni and cheese! trust me!0
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I never say never! If I did I would want to binge too on chocolate and pizza and all that good stuff! For me it's all about portion control. I will count out four cookies (or what ever the serving size is) and put the rest back and find that I'm satisfied.0
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I eat everything I want in moderation. I told myself from day one that this has to be a lifestyle change not a diet or I would't stick to it.
I splurge every single week and I have lost 84 lbs.
but everyone has to decide what they are comfortable with. I'd rather you have mac and cheese once a week or once every couple weeks then binge and go WAY Over what you would have just had in the first place having mac and cheese.
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I'd never have mac and cheese again, only because it makes me feel ill - the cheesiness - I mean I like cheese, but just not the sauce thats made with0
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Exactly this!Please read: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/709987-how-wrong-i-was-600-days-of-mfp-lotsa-pics
There's no reason to say "never again" to a food you enjoy unless you have an allergy or intolerance to a certain food.
If I thought I could never have pizza again, I'd have quit more than 600 days ago. I have it, at least once a week, and it fits in my calories and macros when I do.0 -
Never again? I don't know what that is. It's all about portion control for me as well. I'll enjoy a cookie when I have a craving-but only one cookie, no more, no less. If I want cake cause it's someone's birthday or cheesecake cause I'm out and about at the Cheesecake Factory, then I'll have it. If I want it and it fits into my day, I have it. If I didn't, this would be a diet and I wouldn't last, but it's not a diet to me-it really is a lifestyle change.0
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There is no reason to 'never' eat something again... One of my favourite quotes is 'there is no such thing as bad food, just people who eat badly'.
You can still eat cake - one portion, when you have earned those calories working out.
You want mac and cheese? Fine, have a salad at lunch to balance the macros.
Don't make it harder than it already is by denying yourself things you like!0 -
I think the "never again" approach will always lead to binge eating. I have a treat just about every day.0
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Using the words "never" and "off limits" is labeling food as good and bad. You probably associate yourself with your food choices. (exp: I was bad today, I ate cake! Now this day is ruined... might as well eat as much as I want because tomorrow I need to be "good")
I say throw away the "diet mentality". Its only going to make you want to rebel. Weight loss is simple, you burn more energy than you consume per day and you lose weight. It does not matter entirely on what the calories were from... Just wouldn't be great for your health if you had ice cream for every meal! You need a balance of macro nutrients... proteins...fats...carbs and fiber .
Freeze sweets... like cookies. Only take out one and put the container back. If this is too difficult (like it is for me lol) Then do not keep it in the house. Have a slice of cake at that birthday party , have a candy bar from a convenient store, treat yourself .... but don't keep it in the house where it has unlimited portions available. Tell someone in real life, maybe someone who lives with you -- of your goals...stay accountable. That makes it harder to overeat,
I struggle with binges, I just have to find ways to control myself but not deprive myself of everything .0 -
There is no "never again" so long as you are on this side of the dirt. Plan out your binges. I set aside one day a week to eat whatever I want. I still track my foods, and log everything. Nothing is off limits. A large coke? Sure, not problem. Half a dozen doughnuts in one sitting? Bring it! Both at the same time? Sure, why not?
The important thing I keep in mind is that my binges have to be quality items. I'm not going to waste my day eating mediocre foods that are bland but full of calories. I want the good stuff! Gimme the imported fancy beer, none of this Coors light bull****. I want the the New York Steak, the expensive fancy cheesecake and the high quality Italian restaurant pasta.
If I'm going to binge, it needs to be good! Downing a box of Snackwells cookies just seems so unsatisfying. I'd rather get the fancy Pepperidge Farm or Girl Scout Cookies and have a big ol' party enjoying my yummy, yummy binge.
Ditto with things like mac n cheese. I'll plan it out with only the best quality cheeses and pasta and make a casserole that would make a cardiologist cry.
Trust me, occasional ultimate indulgences will give you the will power to get through the long term. Give yourself permission to enjoy every bite.0 -
I stay away from food I can't limit or have in moderation - or at least I don't trust myself to. Pizza, french fries, ice cream, beer, mashed potatoes <--- major binge trigger. There's more but you get the idea.
BUT!! I'm not saying I'll never have those foods again, but during this phase of weight loss I'm staying away from them until I trust myself to eat a correct portion because I don't want to screw up my progress, get pissed at myself and possibly throw in the towel. Sounds crazy, but it's so much easier for me to just give them up for now.0 -
2 things.
1: try pre-portioned things. Go to a restaurant on your cheat day and get ONE SERVING of something tasty. Points if you split it with someone. That way, it isn't accessible for you to eat the whole pan, tub, bowl, etc. And you have to actually get up, get dressed, and go pay someone to give it to you. Kind of a penance for eating unhealthy foods.
2: your username and pic is greatness.0 -
I had Mac and cheese today and still under my calories. You can eat what you like when you are calorie counting, you just have to get the quantities right. If the food item is high in calories, just do what I do and ask yourself if it is worth it. Lol most of the time for me, that answer is no, but if i have to have it, then I will. I just make sure I cut calories elsewhere and exercise so I get some calories to play with. Good Luck x0
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I don't adopt the "never again" approach..I would fail within a day if I did... Rather...I eat well. If i have a craving for something...even if its a candy bar...I think about it for a while, actually asking my self in my mind...Do I really want this...if the answer is yes after a bit...then I have it! Has worked well for me!0
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I appreciate all of you that responded. There were truly some words of wizdom in some of these replys. I feel very lucky to have this community tol share with.
I wish portion control was easy for me. If "Just eat a little" worked for me then I would not be on ths site!
Someone said "there is more to life than food" Holy ****. That hit me like a blow to the gut. How have I never realized that before?0 -
Don't say never again- say I'll have it later-who says when later is-tomorrow-next week, in a month, at Christmas..... We cannot tell ourselves we can't have it again-it doesn't work, we think then we are depriving ourselves-which in turn starts the cycle of binge eating. Give yourself a "cheat" once a week even if it's the whole day of eating/cheating-or one meal-treat, then the next day get back on the path. You'll feel better because you had the yumminess but also recognize you can have it again-just at a later time. Keep the faith about the good choices you are making and continue making them.0
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I'm sure most have said this, but don't say never! lol If there are certain things that you can't live without, learn how to incorporate them in moderation. yes you probably shouldn't be eating them on a daily basis, nor in the quantity that you may be used to, but if you eat healthy and our on track the majority of the time, the few times inbetween shouldn't effect you much. When your body is functioning properly from the majority of the good stuff, it handles the bad stuff better than it would have if you were still eating those things all the time.
Another thing i do when I am trying to stop myself from eating things I shouldn't, I tell myself, you had your whole life eating this way, I can have these things once I am in maintenance, not saying I can binge on that stuff then, but eating it in moderation then won't be so bad.
Good luck and remember, this is a lifestyle change, if you deprived yourself COMPLETELY of all the things you enjoy you are more likely to fail. Have 1/2 a cup compared to say 2 cups of the old way is a huge improvement! lol0
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