Does a higher heart rate mean more fat burn?

Debbe2

Go see a doctor about it rather than asking people on an Internet site. If doc brushes you off then find another doctor.

heybales

Yea I heard that, the lower the better, but still I wonder if since its higher do I normally burn more fat just by being

No - higher HR means larger % of carbs being burned if exercise.

You go from almost 100% fat burned while sleeping, to 100% carb burned going anaerobic.
Obviously slow HR to high HR as indicator.

If this is concerning resting HR being high - no, no extra calorie burn. Your HR isn't high in order to supply more oxygen because you are burning more energy. It's just high for probably bad reasons.

And I'd be concerned with a Dr that didn't find that resting avg too high for comfort. Do some reading up on it.

And I think you may be confusing resting HR with a max HR you happened to reach during a workout.

Yes, some people have Honda hearts, some diesel. High HRmax or low HRmax.

But HRmax doesn't have a bearing on restingHR being high or low. My max is 194, my resting is 45.

The 220-age for supposed HRmax that your heart can't beat faster than is not always accurate. Mine is 194 tested, 17 higher than calculator would say.

And no, it's not beneficial to always be trying to reach the max in a workout. As was mentioned on intervals, you do a few, you rest a day, take it easy the next day.
Spend all your time up there, prone to injury, training just the carb-burning system, and with deficit eating to lose weight, tearing into muscle too for energy.

1Tim4v8

No, it does not necessarily mean that you burn more calories. When people are doing strenuous workouts-- one way to see where your body is with respect to recovery -- is how in line your HR when you wake up is...

For example - I have a resting heart rate of 56. If my resting HR is in the mid to high 60s, it's a sign that my body is still working overtime to recover, which means that you're burning more residual calories.

However, when you're talking close to 200 -- it's a different ball game. When I do hill repeats on my bike or quarters around the track, my HR might find its way into the high 170s.

I agree with the others-- see a cardiologist.

Well thank you fo being the only one to specifiacally answering my question, yea I think it would be smart to get checked YET AGAIN for like the fifth time, with a specalist any way, it's not always at that high, it will sometime be at 74, right now it was 84, but ocasionally I will check it and it will be at around 200. and my legs will be bouncing up and down from my enegry, soo I duno, my husband is supper lean and fit and he will get a high heart rate to, and with what all the docs said I'm not to scared, I mean they did all the heart tests with all those mechines, and the blood tests, they literally did everything, and everything came out great, but just to be on the safe side I will check with a cardioligist

We're just showing concern for you hun. x

I think you miss understood my coment, I didn't take anything said here in a bad way, if anything I am sick of waisting money on drs lol

Erindipitous

Yeah, definitely see a cardiologist. Yes, some people have higher heart rates for whatever reasons, but if you're counting a random 175 from your pulse, it could mean atrial fibrillation.. Especially if it feels uneven.

Not trying to scare you.. If that is what it is, it's not uncommon and it's treatable. But we just want to make sure you're safe and healthy. :flowerforyou:

1Tim4v8

Yea I heard that, the lower the better, but still I wonder if since its higher do I normally burn more fat just by being

No - higher HR means larger % of carbs being burned if exercise.

You go from almost 100% fat burned while sleeping, to 100% carb burned going anaerobic.
Obviously slow HR to high HR as indicator.

If this is concerning resting HR being high - no, no extra calorie burn. Your HR isn't high in order to supply more oxygen because you are burning more energy. It's just high for probably bad reasons.

And I'd be concerned with a Dr that didn't find that resting avg too high for comfort. Do some reading up on it.

And I think you may be confusing resting HR with a max HR you happened to reach during a workout.

Yes, some people have Honda hearts, some diesel. High HRmax or low HRmax.

But HRmax doesn't have a bearing on restingHR being high or low. My max is 194, my resting is 45.

The 220-age for supposed HRmax that your heart can't beat faster than is not always accurate. Mine is 194 tested, 17 higher than calculator would say.

And no, it's not beneficial to always be trying to reach the max in a workout. As was mentioned on intervals, you do a few, you rest a day, take it easy the next day.
Spend all your time up there, prone to injury, training just the carb-burning system, and with deficit eating to lose weight, tearing into muscle too for energy.

Thank you, and darn lol, I was just wondering if there was a conection, cause when I try to lose weight it really does just melt off so I wondered if that was why,

it wasn't just one doc it was a couple differenct docs and after doing a battery of tests they came to the conclution that my heart rate is just high, I read up a little about it, and found there are others that have just as high as me, and their docs cantt find anything wrong with them, so I duno

1Tim4v8

Yeah, definitely see a cardiologist. Yes, some people have higher heart rates for whatever reasons, but if you're counting a random 175 from your pulse, it could mean atrial fibrillation.. Especially if it feels uneven.

Not trying to scare you.. If that is what it is, it's not uncommon and it's treatable. But we just want to make sure you're safe and healthy. :flowerforyou:

:flowerforyou:

EvgeniZyntx

No, it does not necessarily mean that you burn more calories. When people are doing strenuous workouts-- one way to see where your body is with respect to recovery -- is how in line your HR when you wake up is...

For example - I have a resting heart rate of 56. If my resting HR is in the mid to high 60s, it's a sign that my body is still working overtime to recover, which means that you're burning more residual calories.

However, when you're talking close to 200 -- it's a different ball game. When I do hill repeats on my bike or quarters around the track, my HR might find its way into the high 170s.

I agree with the others-- see a cardiologist.

Well thank you fo being the only one to specifiacally answering my question, yea I think it would be smart to get checked YET AGAIN for like the fifth time, with a specalist any way, it's not always at that high, it will sometime be at 74, right now it was 84, but ocasionally I will check it and it will be at around 200. and my legs will be bouncing up and down from my enegry, soo I duno, my husband is supper lean and fit and he will get a high heart rate to, and with what all the docs said I'm not to scared, I mean they did all the heart tests with all those mechines, and the blood tests, they literally did everything, and everything came out great, but just to be on the safe side I will check with a cardioligist

No.If you went to a GP they did not do "everything". You did not get a Holter, for example (24 hr, ECG). They probably did do a good job of the basic cardio exams but a high to very high resting heart rate is reason to look further for underlying issues - See a cardiologist. You might end up getting not only a holter but a scan.

What level of activity do you have?

The fat burn calculation (the better one) is based on the VO² Max - VO² Max can be estimated from Max HR, a high HR might not mean you are burning more if your Max HR is higher. When I am at 190 (100% Max HR for me) I will be buring more than you at 190 because clearly your Max HR is higher.

heybales

Thank you, and darn lol, I was just wondering if there was a conection, cause when I try to lose weight it really does just melt off so I wondered if that was why,

it wasn't just one doc it was a couple differenct docs and after doing a battery of tests they came to the conclution that my heart rate is just high, I read up a little about it, and found there are others that have just as high as me, and their docs cantt find anything wrong with them, so I duno

In that case, I'm sure the high HR is just indicative of other systemic differences like higher resting metabolism. That's the body's ability to fidget and doing little movements.

Much like too much caffeine can cause.

Now, you'll have excellent barometer if you start eating too low - because the body stopping the fidgeting is the first thing the body stops doing if getting too little calories. Several studies have shown that.

And you frankly don't want to lose that high RMR you must have, of which higher RHR is part of it.

TravisBurns

When im at the point of passing out my HR is at like 165 MAX. I know we all operate differently but im 300+ pounds. Your HRM could be funky, aside from an underlying condition.

Joannie30

No, it does not necessarily mean that you burn more calories. When people are doing strenuous workouts-- one way to see where your body is with respect to recovery -- is how in line your HR when you wake up is...

For example - I have a resting heart rate of 56. If my resting HR is in the mid to high 60s, it's a sign that my body is still working overtime to recover, which means that you're burning more residual calories.

However, when you're talking close to 200 -- it's a different ball game. When I do hill repeats on my bike or quarters around the track, my HR might find its way into the high 170s.

I agree with the others-- see a cardiologist.

Well thank you fo being the only one to specifiacally answering my question, yea I think it would be smart to get checked YET AGAIN for like the fifth time, with a specalist any way, it's not always at that high, it will sometime be at 74, right now it was 84, but ocasionally I will check it and it will be at around 200. and my legs will be bouncing up and down from my enegry, soo I duno, my husband is supper lean and fit and he will get a high heart rate to, and with what all the docs said I'm not to scared, I mean they did all the heart tests with all those mechines, and the blood tests, they literally did everything, and everything came out great, but just to be on the safe side I will check with a cardioligist

We're just showing concern for you hun. x

I think you miss understood my coment, I didn't take anything said here in a bad way, if anything I am sick of waisting money on drs lol

Ah sorry. Here we don't pay for our healthcare so i often forget that other countries do! My bad, sorry again!
Jx

1Tim4v8

Thank you, and darn lol, I was just wondering if there was a conection, cause when I try to lose weight it really does just melt off so I wondered if that was why,

it wasn't just one doc it was a couple differenct docs and after doing a battery of tests they came to the conclution that my heart rate is just high, I read up a little about it, and found there are others that have just as high as me, and their docs cantt find anything wrong with them, so I duno

In that case, I'm sure the high HR is just indicative of other systemic differences like higher resting metabolism. That's the body's ability to fidget and doing little movements.

Much like too much caffeine can cause.

Now, you'll have excellent barometer if you start eating too low - because the body stopping the fidgeting is the first thing the body stops doing if getting too little calories. Several studies have shown that.

And you frankly don't want to lose that high RMR you must have, of which higher RHR is part of it.

What are you saying I will benifite if I run on lower cals? I really do have a energry problem, for intance I need to sleep but I can't its really freaking fustrating

1Tim4v8

No, it does not necessarily mean that you burn more calories. When people are doing strenuous workouts-- one way to see where your body is with respect to recovery -- is how in line your HR when you wake up is...

For example - I have a resting heart rate of 56. If my resting HR is in the mid to high 60s, it's a sign that my body is still working overtime to recover, which means that you're burning more residual calories.

However, when you're talking close to 200 -- it's a different ball game. When I do hill repeats on my bike or quarters around the track, my HR might find its way into the high 170s.

I agree with the others-- see a cardiologist.

Well thank you fo being the only one to specifiacally answering my question, yea I think it would be smart to get checked YET AGAIN for like the fifth time, with a specalist any way, it's not always at that high, it will sometime be at 74, right now it was 84, but ocasionally I will check it and it will be at around 200. and my legs will be bouncing up and down from my enegry, soo I duno, my husband is supper lean and fit and he will get a high heart rate to, and with what all the docs said I'm not to scared, I mean they did all the heart tests with all those mechines, and the blood tests, they literally did everything, and everything came out great, but just to be on the safe side I will check with a cardioligist

No.If you went to a GP they did not do "everything". You did not get a Holter, for example (24 hr, ECG). They probably did do a good job of the basic cardio exams but a high to very high resting heart rate is reason to look further for underlying issues - See a cardiologist. You might end up getting not only a holter but a scan.

What level of activity do you have?

The fat burn calculation (the better one) is based on the VO² Max - VO² Max can be estimated from Max HR, a high HR might not mean you are burning more if your Max HR is higher. When I am at 190 (100% Max HR for me) I will be buring more than you at 190 because clearly your Max HR is higher.

As for the specifics I am not sure what they all were called, but I was hooked up to all this meshines that kept track of my heart rate for like 17 hours, they also did the thing I think it was an EKG, and they tested my blood, they said they would be able to tell from that something like if I had some kind of heart attack or something, it was kinda funny cause they thought I was on drugs cause how high my heart rate was, ( I wsn't) but soo I was being a bit over dramatic by saying they did everything obvously they have tones of test, but they did a lot of them and monitered me for almost a whole day, and found nothing to bad as to send em to a cardeoligist, I mean just to be carful I will prb check one out any way, but I will have to procwade my doc into it

baabaabetsy

Hey! I just wanted to throw in my experience... I used to have a very high resting heart rate--in the 80s or 90s. I sometimes also felt my heart beat weird at night... I don't know what it was. But that was when I wasn't exercising at all and I wasn't eating that great (my diet was ok but I think I ate a lot of sugar then).

Now that I exercise frequently throughout the week and I usually don't eat sugary things anymore, I never have those weird heart palpitations... or whatever they were. My resting heart rate is now about 60-65.

I was never overweight, but how active I am and how well I eat really affects my heart rate and even my heart beat I guess. So my suggestion to get your heart rate into a healthy zone is to exercise and clean up your diet if it contains a lot of junk. Try that for a few months and I bet you'll see an improvement.

heybales

What are you saying I will benifite if I run on lower cals? I really do have a energry problem, for intance I need to sleep but I can't its really freaking fustrating

Well, too low cals would cause your body to balance out by lowering the resting metabolism. That doesn't mean sleep would be any better. It does mean weight loss would be slower.

I would research all those symptoms - high energy, high HR, fidgeting, mind races can't sleep, ect - might be something with thyroid causing everything to speed up.

if nothing really is there, you might look into eating to lower metabolism after you reach goal weight. It is a lifestyle many purposely select, does have some health benefits, and may have some side benefits for you. But it's a bummer trying to lose weight on slower metabolism. Bodies under enough stress with diet anyway, making deficit even bigger is more stress usually, not what it sounds like your body needs right now.

EvgeniZyntx

As for the specifics I am not sure what they all were called, but I was hooked up to all this meshines that kept track of my heart rate for like 17 hours, they also did the thing I think it was an EKG, and they tested my blood, they said they would be able to tell from that something like if I had some kind of heart attack or something, it was kinda funny cause they thought I was on drugs cause how high my heart rate was, ( I wsn't) but soo I was being a bit over dramatic by saying they did everything obvously they have tones of test, but they did a lot of them and monitered me for almost a whole day, and found nothing to bad as to send em to a cardeoligist, I mean just to be carful I will prb check one out any way, but I will have to procwade my doc into it

Then my apologies, if you did do a long term ECG (EKG is the same thing but comes from the German word) they would have been more likely to see any cardiac arrhythmias - your cardiologist might propose other tests or a more extended evaluation using a Holter monitor.

In any case - the best advice you can get is from a good specialist - not here.

2hobbit1

Yeah, definitely see a cardiologist. Yes, some people have higher heart rates for whatever reasons, but if you're counting a random 175 from your pulse, it could mean atrial fibrillation.. Especially if it feels uneven.

Not trying to scare you.. If that is what it is, it's not uncommon and it's treatable. But we just want to make sure you're safe and healthy. :flowerforyou:

:flowerforyou:

My mum would do this and get panic attacks with the high HR - she eventually needed a pacemaker to keep her heart rate from getting too fast. They had to put her on a holter monitor for almost two weeks to catch an episode but once the cardiologist saw what was happening she was set for surgery. High spontaneous heart rates can be from either the top chamber(atrium) of the heart or the bottom chamber( ventrical) not beating properly. They can cause different long term health problems and are treated differently. Unless they catch an episode it can be hard to tell. What will happen eventually, if left untreated is that the arrhythmia will continue to get more frequent and may take a trip to the ER to get it stopped. Not fun! Please see a cardiologist - it may save your life.

jypsyjulia

My brother has a similar heart rate to yours and your doctor definitely should NOT have brushed you off. That is ridiculous. My brother is on beta blockers and they have helped him in ALL walks of life, including weight loss! His average heart rate used to be about 95-100 (which is NOT normal, do not let your doctor tell you that. Mine is 76. THAT is normal.) and now it is at 79! He is so healthy. Please talk to your doctor (or a new one) about your high heart rate. Also, the fact that it jumps so high is frightening and indicative of a heart condition! I can never even get my heart that high unless I'm like... marathon working out or something lol. Please check this out. It's dangerous.

As for weight loss, I don't think a high heart rate and weight loss have anything to do with each other. My brother was very overweight with his high heart rate and LOST weight with beta blockers, which lowers your heart rate. I think that you just might be one of the lucky ones who has the body type that sheds fat easily. (jealous)

OfficiallySexyVal

My heart rate is always on the high side as well sometimes even pushing 200bpm during some of my most intense workouts! I was recently diagnosed with a hyper thyroid and am currently on medicine to help slow it down!
However the down side is that I have to bust my butt in the gym twice as hard to get results and lose weight!

1Tim4v8

As for the specifics I am not sure what they all were called, but I was hooked up to all this meshines that kept track of my heart rate for like 17 hours, they also did the thing I think it was an EKG, and they tested my blood, they said they would be able to tell from that something like if I had some kind of heart attack or something, it was kinda funny cause they thought I was on drugs cause how high my heart rate was, ( I wsn't) but soo I was being a bit over dramatic by saying they did everything obvously they have tones of test, but they did a lot of them and monitered me for almost a whole day, and found nothing to bad as to send em to a cardeoligist, I mean just to be carful I will prb check one out any way, but I will have to procwade my doc into it

Then my apologies, if you did do a long term ECG (EKG is the same thing but comes from the German word) they would have been more likely to see any cardiac arrhythmias - your cardiologist might propose other tests or a more extended evaluation using a Holter monitor.

In any case - the best advice you can get is from a good specialist - not here.

I wasn't asking for medical advise, if you re read what I wrote you will see I was wondering if a higher heart rate means more fat loss, but thanks any how

1Tim4v8

My brother has a similar heart rate to yours and your doctor definitely should NOT have brushed you off. That is ridiculous. My brother is on beta blockers and they have helped him in ALL walks of life, including weight loss! His average heart rate used to be about 95-100 (which is NOT normal, do not let your doctor tell you that. Mine is 76. THAT is normal.) and now it is at 79! He is so healthy. Please talk to your doctor (or a new one) about your high heart rate. Also, the fact that it jumps so high is frightening and indicative of a heart condition! I can never even get my heart that high unless I'm like... marathon working out or something lol. Please check this out. It's dangerous.

As for weight loss, I don't think a high heart rate and weight loss have anything to do with each other. My brother was very overweight with his high heart rate and LOST weight with beta blockers, which lowers your heart rate. I think that you just might be one of the lucky ones who has the body type that sheds fat easily. (jealous)

Thank you for your comment, I have been to many different doctors and have been tested for so many things, including my therode, I have changed out drs, but all my tests come out just fine, soo I duno I feel great, except when I drink coffee, and I really don't want to spend any more money on drs for them to keep telling me the same thig, sooooo I duno, but I know I am not the only one with a heart rate this high, also my mom has heart problems and her heart rate is supper low, soo I duno