Can organic food help you lose weight?
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The other benefit of buying organic is that to be USDA certified organic, there are NO GMOs. It's much closer to the way that food was farmed, cattle raised, 100 years ago before science was so incorporated to everything that we consume.
Why are people so afraid of GMO?
you can choose high yield, resistant, GMO crops...
or a substantial number of the global population starve to death.
your choice
Are you, in any way, associated with the corporations pushing GMO?
^ This... GMO is linked to many serious illness including cancer and a number of other things0 -
Organic food has been scientifically proven to offer no measurable benefit to ones diet..
however it will have a significant impact on your wallet.
i can provide sources if you wish, or you can take my word for it.
your friend has unfortunately fallen victim to the cloud of misinformation surrounding organic food.
If you are worried about consuming pesticides, then you should buy some things organic. And some studies have shown pesticides to cause cancer, so its understandable that some people prefer it over other foods. Watch food, inc. sometime. its very interesting.0 -
Organic veg hasn't been sprayed with chemicals. That's the difference.
Only it has been researched that the chemicals on other veg and fruit is in such small trace amounts, that is has no effect on you at all. So fruit and veg doesn't really matter which you buy.
Organic meat is of higher quality (no water injected to make the meat look like it is more than it actually is and no different meats "glued together"). The animals will also have had a far better life and they use a lot less antibiotics and other chemicals. Those antibiotics are only needed when animals are really packed together and organic farming gives the animals more space, so less disease spread = less antibiotics needed.
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Don't forget to factor in any travel time of foods, organic or not...if it isn't local, it's already been picked and its nutrients reducing by the second until it arrives at your grocer...so that can knock out the "more nutrient packed" argument for me...organic or not, those pesticides are such small traces that chances are, you'd need to be ingesting a lot for it to matter. Everything and anything, at some point, will be researched and said to cause some kind of illness.
The only thing organic I'd be interested in would be meats... but...they are so ridiculously expensive that I'll just continue with my poisonous meat.0 -
I have a confession
When I go to the store I secretly spray the organic section with pesticides0 -
Penn and Teller's Bull**** had a pretty good special on this subject matter and they showed a lot of people choosing the taste of non-organic food to organic. I'd be curious. I tend to buy organic when I buy berries and other fruits with edible skin.
I do agree that people who eat organic tend to be more in tune with what is going into their bodies, but there are no weight loss benefits to eating organically.
And a lot of people have a lot of blind information in here. It makes for a good chuckle.
Malaria or pesticides....let me think which I want.0 -
The only thing organic I'd be interested in would be meats... but...they are so ridiculously expensive that I'll just continue with my poisonous meat.
When I lived on my own, I solved it by just eating far less meat. I would eat meat about 2-3 days a week and then buy organic meat.
The wait is worth it for the taste and the quality of protein, trust me.0 -
Penn and Teller's Bull**** had a pretty good special on this subject matter and they showed a lot of people choosing the taste of non-organic food to organic. I'd be curious. I tend to buy organic when I buy berries and other fruits with edible skin.
I do agree that people who eat organic tend to be more in tune with what is going into their bodies, but there are no weight loss benefits to eating organically.
And a lot of people have a lot of blind information in here. It makes for a good chuckle.
Malaria or pesticides....let me think which I want.
Malaria from eating something? Who are you calling misinformed?0 -
The only thing organic I'd be interested in would be meats... but...they are so ridiculously expensive that I'll just continue with my poisonous meat.
When I lived on my own, I solved it by just eating far less meat. I would eat meat about 2-3 days a week and then buy organic meat.
The wait is worth it for the taste and the quality of protein, trust me.
Hmm...well if it were just me eating, I could do this. I've gotten some organic beef a few times and my husband wasn't happy as he couldn't "tell the difference"...like it was gonna taste like a whole new food or something lol. If I find sales, I try and pick it up but I can't imagine not having beef pork or chicken with every dinner...0 -
Malaria from eating something? Who are you calling misinformed?
DDT controversy ring a bell?0 -
I have a confession
When I go to the store I secretly spray the organic section with pesticides
LOL
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What a shock, a Lustig and Taubes supporter... A pediatrician, and a journalist. Neither one a nutritionist, and both of whom have been completely debunked by people with actual education in nutrition.For those of you who are really interested in knowing the causes of your obesity, here are some videos that will educate you:
1. Dr. Robert Lustig, who is a pediatrician, touches briefly on the topic of toxins in our environment but he spends most of his time on the chief toxin of them all---sugar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z5X0i92OZQ&feature=relmfu
2. Medical journalist, Gary Taubes, speaks to the same issue of carbohydrates---especially simple carbohydrates such as sugar and starch---as the cause of obesity. He shows definitively that this is NOT new information but one that was "forgotten" by modern medicine. Fascinating and entertaining lecture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDneyrETR2o&feature=relmfu
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/0 -
It's not aout the pesticides having calories.. It's about the pesticides messing up your hormones and making your body/homrones confused.0
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For those of you who are really interested in knowing the causes of your obesity, here are some videos that will educate you:
1. Dr. Robert Lustig, who is a pediatrician, touches briefly on the topic of toxins in our environment but he spends most of his time on the chief toxin of them all---sugar.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z5X0i92OZQ&feature=relmfu
2. Medical journalist, Gary Taubes, speaks to the same issue of carbohydrates---especially simple carbohydrates such as sugar and starch---as the cause of obesity. He shows definitively that this is NOT new information but one that was "forgotten" by modern medicine. Fascinating and entertaining lecture:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDneyrETR2o&feature=relmfu
Lustig and Taubes?
All of your credibility just went flying out the window.
Now, why on earth would you say that?? Robert Lustig, M.D. is a pediatric endocrinologist with impressive enough credentials to be featured on a "60 Minutes" episode and interviewed by Sanjay Gupta, M.D. And Gary Taubes is both a Harvard educated physicist and a medical journalist of some renown. Have you been listening to the propaganda against them coming from the food/agri-business industries? Of course, the food/agri-business industries stand to lose billions if the people begin listening to them and the anti-sugar campaign really takes off as a result. Apparently, that is why they have tried to smear both of these men instead of trying to refute what they are saying (which they cannot). Watch the Gupta segment on Youtube here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXhKQEdIDa0&feature=related 0 -
It's not aout the pesticides having calories.. It's about the pesticides messing up your hormones and making your body/homrones confused.
How right you are!0 -
I don't think I'm an Organic food snob but I do find some of the fruits/veggies take better if they are organic, expecially strawberries, peaches, and celery.0
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Youre a fool to believe this. Eating right helps you loose weight.
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Don't forget to factor in any travel time of foods, organic or not...if it isn't local, it's already been picked and its nutrients reducing by the second until it arrives at your grocer...so that can knock out the "more nutrient packed" argument for me...organic or not, those pesticides are such small traces that chances are, you'd need to be ingesting a lot for it to matter. Everything and anything, at some point, will be researched and said to cause some kind of illness.
The only thing organic I'd be interested in would be meats... but...they are so ridiculously expensive that I'll just continue with my poisonous meat.
You can buy "naturally raised" meat. It's not terribly more expensive than is regular meat and it does not have hormones and antibiotics (thought to be another possible cause of obesity) in it. Raised the "old fashioned" way. The only difference between "naturally raised" meat and organic is that organic is fed organic feed exclusively. The farmers who raise meat "naturally" try to keep the cost down by grazing their animals as much as possible--better for the animal and better for us,
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What a shock, a Lustig and Taubes supporter... A pediatrician, and a journalist. Neither one a nutritionist, and both of whom have been completely debunked by people with actual education in nutrition.For those of you who are really interested in knowing the causes of your obesity, here are some videos that will educate you:
1. Dr. Robert Lustig, who is a pediatrician, touches briefly on the topic of toxins in our environment but he spends most of his time on the chief toxin of them all---sugar.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z5X0i92OZQ&feature=relmfu
2. Medical journalist, Gary Taubes, speaks to the same issue of carbohydrates---especially simple carbohydrates such as sugar and starch---as the cause of obesity. He shows definitively that this is NOT new information but one that was "forgotten" by modern medicine. Fascinating and entertaining lecture:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDneyrETR2o&feature=relmfu
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/
Hmm---one wonders if the writer of that blog is part of the propaganda campaign sponsored by agri-business. Nutritionists? It is the INDEPENDENT nutritionists who first raised the alarm about sugar consumption in the first place! Whyever would we believe nutritionists who openly or secretly work for agri-business. I'd much rather believe medical practitioners who are doing actual research in the area. Sugar consumption is a very big health hazard. Don't believe me---watch the Gupta YouTube. He interviews medical researchers who were actually shocked to see the results of their investigations into the sugar/chronic disease link. Monsanto, Cargill (who manufactures a LOT of high fructose corn syrup), Archer Daniels Midland and all the rest are attempting to brainwash all of us but the truth is leaking out.0 -
I have a confession
When I go to the store I secretly spray the organic section with pesticides
I highly suspect that you are kidding but you might want to be careful about admitting a criminal act on a public forum.0 -
Aragon and Krieger have both very effectively shot down the majority of info presented by Lustig and Taubes. If you're not familiar with Alan Aragon or James Krieger I'd very highly recommend familiarizing yourself with their work.0
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I don't understand why people try so hard to justify their choice of buying or not buying organic foods? Do whatever pleases you and your wallet but please don't expect others make the same choice.0
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Aragon and Krieger have both very effectively shot down the majority of info presented by Lustig and Taubes. If you're not familiar with Alan Aragon or James Krieger I'd very highly recommend familiarizing yourself with their work.
Both Aragon and Krieger are "nutritionists" (By the way, just because they SAY they have degrees in nutrition doesn't mean that they actually DO have degrees). They are hardly research physicians (where both Lustig and Taubes gained their information). It would be my guess (and I have no information to back this up, but I did take a look at their blogs and they seemed very "commercial") Aragon and Krieger are likely on the payroll of the agri-business giants. Did you ever see that movie about Archer Daniels Midland? The one with Matt Damon. It is actually a true story of incredible corruption there---and they all compete to see which corp. can be more corrupt or corrupt more governmental agencies who are supposed to watch over our food supply. There is a revolving door between the FDA and Monsanto (among others of the food giants). Wake up.
p.s. In any case, are these nutritionists doing research of their own? Richard Johnson, M.D. (he is the chief of the renal research division at the U. of Colorado medical center) confirms what Lustig and Taubes have been saying. When evaluating information for and against something, it is very important to understand the "Cui Bono" element. Always ask, "Who benefits if I believe this information?" Richard Johnson gets the funding for his research from NIH and other governmental groups. As such, it is very doubtful that he would gain anything from attacking Big Agra---who would pay him to do so? The "commies"?
On the other hand, if people buy Aragon and Kreiger's hatchet jobs, Big Agra would be very grateful for the benefit that they gain if people buy the character defamation that Aragon and Kreiger are peddling. Cui Bono?0 -
I don't understand why people try so hard to justify their choice of buying or not buying organic foods? Do whatever pleases you and your wallet but please don't expect others make the same choice.
I don't expect others to make the same choices as I do---just trying to offer information that may help people to make better choices for their health.0 -
Aragon and Krieger have both very effectively shot down the majority of info presented by Lustig and Taubes. If you're not familiar with Alan Aragon or James Krieger I'd very highly recommend familiarizing yourself with their work.
Both Aragon and Krieger are "nutritionists" (By the way, just because they SAY they have degrees in nutrition doesn't mean that they actually DO have degrees). They are hardly research physicians (where both Lustig and Taubes gained their information). It would be my guess (and I have no information to back this up, but I did take a look at their blogs and they seemed very "commercial") Aragon and Krieger are likely on the payroll of the agri-business giants. Did you ever see that movie about Archer Daniels Midland? The one with Matt Damon. It is actually a true story of incredible corruption there---and they all compete to see which corp. can be more corrupt or corrupt more governmental agencies who are supposed to watch over our food supply. There is a revolving door between the FDA and Monsanto (among others of the food giants). Wake up.
Your guess is incorrect. You shouldn't dismiss information before you have the information.0 -
Aragon and Krieger have both very effectively shot down the majority of info presented by Lustig and Taubes. If you're not familiar with Alan Aragon or James Krieger I'd very highly recommend familiarizing yourself with their work.
Both Aragon and Krieger are "nutritionists" (By the way, just because they SAY they have degrees in nutrition doesn't mean that they actually DO have degrees). They are hardly research physicians (where both Lustig and Taubes gained their information). It would be my guess (and I have no information to back this up, but I did take a look at their blogs and they seemed very "commercial") Aragon and Krieger are likely on the payroll of the agri-business giants. Did you ever see that movie about Archer Daniels Midland? The one with Matt Damon. It is actually a true story of incredible corruption there---and they all compete to see which corp. can be more corrupt or corrupt more governmental agencies who are supposed to watch over our food supply. There is a revolving door between the FDA and Monsanto (among others of the food giants). Wake up.
Your guess is incorrect. You shouldn't dismiss information before you have the information.
And how would you know? I read Aragon's blog "assessing" Lustig's address on Youtube (which, by the way, was given before a live audience of medical professionals). If you read Aragon's blog posting carefully, there are a couple of things which stand out. 1. He doesn't actually disagree with a number of conclusions that Lustig has reached. 2. It very much sounds like a lot of the "information" that Aragon includes comes directly from the anti-Lustig propaganda put out by Big Agra.0 -
Aragon and Krieger have both very effectively shot down the majority of info presented by Lustig and Taubes. If you're not familiar with Alan Aragon or James Krieger I'd very highly recommend familiarizing yourself with their work.
Both Aragon and Krieger are "nutritionists" (By the way, just because they SAY they have degrees in nutrition doesn't mean that they actually DO have degrees). They are hardly research physicians (where both Lustig and Taubes gained their information). It would be my guess (and I have no information to back this up, but I did take a look at their blogs and they seemed very "commercial") Aragon and Krieger are likely on the payroll of the agri-business giants. Did you ever see that movie about Archer Daniels Midland? The one with Matt Damon. It is actually a true story of incredible corruption there---and they all compete to see which corp. can be more corrupt or corrupt more governmental agencies who are supposed to watch over our food supply. There is a revolving door between the FDA and Monsanto (among others of the food giants). Wake up.
p.s. In any case, are these nutritionists doing research of their own? Richard Johnson, M.D. (he is the chief of the renal research division at the U. of Colorado medical center) confirms what Lustig and Taubes have been saying. When evaluating information for and against something, it is very important to understand the "Cui Bono" element. Always ask, "Who benefits if I believe this information?" Richard Johnson gets the funding for his research from NIH and other governmental groups. As such, it is very doubtful that he would gain anything from attacking Big Agra---who would pay him to do so? The "commies"?
On the other hand, if people buy Aragon and Kreiger's hatchet jobs, Big Agra would be very grateful for the benefit that they gain if people buy the character defamation that Aragon and Kreiger are peddling. Cui Bono?0 -
EDIT: nvm, I'm not going to bother anymore. This will go nowhere.0
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... **** just got real.0
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My freind told me today that if you eat all organic food you will lose weight. Is this true?
Only if you are toxic from the pesticides in convention foods. For most people it doesn't make a difference in weight loss.0
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