thumbs up or down - counting condensed soup as water intake

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  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Excessive sodium intake is not the boogeyman that it has been made out to be for many (most?) people. I put that advice right up there with the "eating fat will make you fat" mindset.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    Excessive sodium intake is not the boogeyman that it has been made out to be for many (most?) people. I put that advice right up there with the "eating fat will make you fat" mindset.
    Agreed. Plus if people would just eat more whole foods the potassium would balance it out anyway.

    Please don't anyone confuse my suggesting more whole foods to mean "eat clean", whatever the eff that means.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Excessive sodium intake is not the boogeyman that it has been made out to be for many (most?) people. I put that advice right up there with the "eating fat will make you fat" mindset.
    Agreed. Plus if people would just eat more whole foods the potassium would balance it out anyway.

    Please don't anyone confuse my suggesting more whole foods to mean "eat clean", whatever the eff that means.

    Uh, for many people, "eat clean" means "eat whole foods".
  • future_rockstar
    future_rockstar Posts: 711 Member
    Thumbs down
  • Cristofori44
    Cristofori44 Posts: 201
    Why not? I count Gummi Bears as fruit.
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
    Thumbs up.

    But I also count Skittles as water.

    Don't be stupid.

    Skittles count as rainbows, not water.

    Duh.

    You need water to make a rainbow, jeez!
    Now somebody go make me some skittles vodka. That is double water. :drinker:

    I find that Skittles Vodka makes an excellent base for chicken noodle soup. Bonus is that after you finish a bowl, you've completed your water requirements for the day. I don't recommend going to back to the office after lunch tho.

    :laugh:
  • Danayle
    Danayle Posts: 74 Member
    Down. It has a lot of sodium.
  • SunnyAndrsn
    SunnyAndrsn Posts: 369 Member
    In the hospital, we'd count it as fluid intake. We'd also be serving low sodium versions. However, we also count Popsicles, jello, and all fluids--juice, milk, coffee, soda, etc.
  • SunnyAndrsn
    SunnyAndrsn Posts: 369 Member
    Excessive sodium intake is not the boogeyman that it has been made out to be for many (most?) people. I put that advice right up there with the "eating fat will make you fat" mindset.

    Agreed, but the American Heart Association is now recommending 1500mg a day for a heart healthy diet. I do monitor this, but don't freak out if I'm over.

    If you normally eat 3-4grams a day of sodium, and then cut back, you likely will see a change in the scale due to water retention. Big deal, IMO.

    If you normally eat that 1.5-2g per day of sodium, you won't see the fluctuations. If you're a person for whom this is a major big deal (scale fluctuations), then this might be something to watch so you don't drive yourself nuts.

    I personally don't worry about it too much because my blood pressure tends to run low, even with being active. I'm happy to keep my systolic above 100. My husband, on the other hand, has hypertension and other risk factors, so as a result I'm more conscious of it to help support him.
  • SunnyAndrsn
    SunnyAndrsn Posts: 369 Member
    I am going to try again to ask an intellectual question and I ask that all the Question Critics bow out and all those willing to provide an intellectual response, pls respond.

    Does your "water intake" strictly mean water or does it really mean "liquid intake" and includes clear liquids such as tea, black coffee, and crystal lite? If it does mean "water", pls explain the logic behind this. I would like to understand the reason for this if it is strictly water.

    Not all of us are professional dieters and I know I have questions about the fine print. I'd like to think I can ask this forum without hesitation.

    Liquids. All liquids count, but if you're drinking more than 5 caffeinated beverages a day this can be dehydrating and counter productive.
  • SPNLuver83
    SPNLuver83 Posts: 2,050 Member
    thumbs down
  • baptiste565
    baptiste565 Posts: 590 Member
    this is a strange thread. water is water. soup is soup. juice is juice. milk is milk. they r all liquids but different things.
  • kmboatright
    kmboatright Posts: 2
    Down - you have to get your water in :smokin:
  • LifestyleChange33
    LifestyleChange33 Posts: 169 Member
    K how much sodium did that soup have? Was it cream or broth based? Be sure you count the calories as well as the fluids.
  • Hearts_2015
    Hearts_2015 Posts: 12,032 Member
    DOWN! Condensed soup is a thumbs down too.
    :drinker: Agreed, am amazed at how many recipes are shared on MFP containing Condensed Soups.... ew, some have nearly 1000mg of sodium per can!
  • Goldenphil
    Goldenphil Posts: 2
    thumbs down water is water it's not soup or sodas or sparkling.
  • Laddiegirl
    Laddiegirl Posts: 382 Member
    My personal rules are that soup is part of the food I consume and I only count what I drink towards my daily water intake. Thats just my take on it all.
  • VanessaHeartsMasr
    VanessaHeartsMasr Posts: 727
    I'd say a definite thumbs down.
  • Kanlassak
    Kanlassak Posts: 101 Member
    If the log entry in your diary is "soup, condensed" the water counts. If the entry is for "soup, reconstituted" or "soup, with water" the water doesn't count.

    Seriously? 8 cups is a recommendation, and not a particularly accurate one for most people. Log it how you want. I count the water I add to things and don't count the water already in flavored waters, because really all I care about is that everything is logged.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    Can one of the sodium nazi's tell me if you also added enough spinach to the condensed soup so that potassium equalled sodium, could you then count it as water?
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    Can one of the sodium nazi's tell me if you also added enough spinach to the condensed soup so that potassium equalled sodium, could you then count it as water?
    :drinker:
  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    I'm pretty liberal when it comes to what counts as water - but soup? No. Soup is food - not a beverage.
  • slkehl
    slkehl Posts: 3,801 Member
    Excessive sodium intake is not the boogeyman that it has been made out to be for many (most?) people. I put that advice right up there with the "eating fat will make you fat" mindset.

    Very true! Most people do not have a high sensitivity toward sodium, so the amount they consume in their diet won't have a big impact on blood pressure. However, there is still a decent portion of the population that is sensitive to sodium. As of right now, there's no easy way to test whether or not your blood pressure level is influenced by your sodium intake. Therefore, everyone is recommended to consume it in moderation.
  • baptiste565
    baptiste565 Posts: 590 Member
    Can one of the sodium nazi's tell me if you also added enough spinach to the condensed soup so that potassium equalled sodium, could you then count it as water?

    i would hope that in this day and age people know that sodium levels should only be monitored by salt sensitive people. people with high blood pressure, kidney problems, people with swollen feet. its still not a green light to drink cups of table salt but im just sayin.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    Can one of the sodium nazi's tell me if you also added enough spinach to the condensed soup so that potassium equalled sodium, could you then count it as water?

    i would hope that in this day and age people know that sodium levels should only be monitored by salt sensitive people. people with high blood pressure, kidney problems, people with swollen feet. its not a green light to drink cups of table salt but im just sayin.
    You get diarrhea if you go overboard. It draws water in to your digestive tract and acts as a laxative. Salt is eventually self-limiting. :tongue:
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    Can one of the sodium nazi's tell me if you also added enough spinach to the condensed soup so that potassium equalled sodium, could you then count it as water?

    i would hope that in this day and age people know that sodium levels should only be monitored by salt sensitive people. people with high blood pressure, kidney problems, people with swollen feet. its still not a green light to drink cups of table salt but im just sayin.

    I would hope so too. But it seems as though from the majority of posters on here, that is not the case.
  • ZeroWoIf
    ZeroWoIf Posts: 588 Member
    For people who are active and sweat a lot actually need to make sure that they are eating a decent amount of sodium. Chris Davey once recommended me to do cardio with a salt shaker strapped to my belt lol.
  • dullnborin
    dullnborin Posts: 4
    Thanks, Rocker. I appreciate it.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    For people who are active and sweat a lot actually need to make sure that they are eating a decent amount of sodium. Chris Davey once recommended me to do cardio with a salt shaker strapped to my belt lol.

    Nah that couldn't have been me. I don't do cardio...
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Just so we're clear on the sodium thing, I generally don't use normal table salt. I prefer a good Himalayan sea salt.

    (I guess I'm becoming somewhat of a salt snob...)

    And in no way was this a bump....no way...because bumping almost dead threads like this is wrong. Very wrong.

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